Daycare issue...

[Sinsaint]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Pennsylvania...

Typical divorce story. Mother hates the father and runs him into the ground to anyone and everyone who will listen. Her current therapist is the daycare provider. Sometime over the summer (six or eight months ago) he picked up his child from daycare and later posted something on Facebook to the effect "just picked up my kid at daycare. Nothing like having to drive the whole way home with your kid's shoes covered in dog poo." All the comments were bet that smelled good... Air out the truck... Leave those shoes outside. He never tagged her personally or the daycare.

This past Friday he picked up his child from daycare and they had forgotten to pack his medicine. He got ahold of the mother and told her daycare forgot to pack his medicine and asked if she could grab it on her way home before she came to pick up the child. It's right on her way so no big deal, right? Wrong. He got all these texts from the daycare provider saying she saw what he posted on Facebook. He was no longer allowed on her property to pick up his kid and if he showed up she would have him arrested.

Yea, seriously. Over a post on Facebook from six or eight months ago that didn't even mention her or her business. Then the mother shows up laughing saying daycare banned him from the property and she might just remove all his relatives from the "approved pick up" list and he can figure out how to pay all the late fees the provider will tack on until she decides to go pick up the child. There is court order in place so the fact that he has legal rights to pick his child aren't the issue.

Can the provider up and decide he can no longer be on her property?

 

[Silverplum]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Pennsylvania...

Typical divorce story. Mother hates the father and runs him into the ground to anyone and everyone who will listen. Her current therapist is the daycare provider. Sometime over the summer (six or eight months ago) he picked up his child from daycare and later posted something on Facebook to the effect "just picked up my kid at daycare. Nothing like having to drive the whole way home with your kid's shoes covered in dog poo." All the comments were bet that smelled good... Air out the truck... Leave those shoes outside. He never tagged her personally or the daycare.

This past Friday he picked up his child from daycare and they had forgotten to pack his medicine. He got ahold of the mother and told her daycare forgot to pack his medicine and asked if she could grab it on her way home before she came to pick up the child. It's right on her way so no big deal, right? Wrong. He got all these texts from the daycare provider saying she saw what he posted on Facebook. He was no longer allowed on her property to pick up his kid and if he showed up she would have him arrested.

Yea, seriously. Over a post on Facebook from six or eight months ago that didn't even mention her or her business. Then the mother shows up laughing saying daycare banned him from the property and she might just remove all his relatives from the "approved pick up" list and he can figure out how to pay all the late fees the provider will tack on until she decides to go pick up the child. There is court order in place so the fact that he has legal rights to pick his child aren't the issue.

Can the provider up and decide he can no longer be on her property?

This is not your business.

And everyone in this situation should stay away from facebook, including you.

 

[Just Blue]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Pennsylvania...

Typical divorce story. Mother hates the father and runs him into the ground to anyone and everyone who will listen. Her current therapist is the daycare provider. Sometime over the summer (six or eight months ago) he picked up his child from daycare and later posted something on Facebook to the effect "just picked up my kid at daycare. Nothing like having to drive the whole way home with your kid's shoes covered in dog poo." All the comments were bet that smelled good... Air out the truck... Leave those shoes outside. He never tagged her personally or the daycare.

This past Friday he picked up his child from daycare and they had forgotten to pack his medicine. He got ahold of the mother and told her daycare forgot to pack his medicine and asked if she could grab it on her way home before she came to pick up the child. It's right on her way so no big deal, right? Wrong. He got all these texts from the daycare provider saying she saw what he posted on Facebook. He was no longer allowed on her property to pick up his kid and if he showed up she would have him arrested.

Yea, seriously. Over a post on Facebook from six or eight months ago that didn't even mention her or her business. Then the mother shows up laughing saying daycare banned him from the property and she might just remove all his relatives from the "approved pick up" list and he can figure out how to pay all the late fees the provider will tack on until she decides to go pick up the child. There is court order in place so the fact that he has legal rights to pick his child aren't the issue.

Can the provider up and decide he can no longer be on her property?

Who are you in this situation??

 

[Sinsaint]

Who are you in this situation??

I'm the one who had to pick him up today. The child's aunt.

 

[sandyclaus]

This is not your business.

And everyone in this situation should stay away from facebook, including you.

Who are you in this situation??

Let me guess... the poster is either the father (posting anonymously) or his SO. I'm sure they can't be too happy to be inconvenienced by Dad's shenanigans to the point where they aren't allowed to go near the daycare anymore.

And yes, what the daycare provider is doing is perfectly legal - and actually a great idea, considering Dad's choice to bag on the provider and make efforts to try to defame them and hurt their business in a very public forum. The less direct exposure, the better.

 

[sandyclaus]

I'm the one who had to pick him up today. The child's aunt.

On the father's side, right?

If you want to complain to someone, tell it to Dad. Tell him to control his behavior. Maybe if he gets the fallout from his bad judgment from other family members, he might just think twice about doing it again.

 

[Ohiogal]

On the father's side, right?

If you want to complain to someone, tell it to Dad. Tell him to control his behavior. Maybe if he gets the fallout from his bad judgment from other family members, he might just think twice about doing it again.

Actually the daycare provider is the one in trouble. Dad can take this to court and force mom to change daycares due to the daycare's actions and mom's threats. And dad has the same access as mom per state law I do believe. Unless the provider got a court order.

 

[Sinsaint]

On the father's side, right?

If you want to complain to someone, tell it to Dad. Tell him to control his behavior. Maybe if he gets the fallout from his bad judgment from other family members, he might just think twice about doing it again.

I've already told him about his Facebook posts and that they aren't such a hot idea. He gets no praise from me in that regard. As for my post, I wasn't asking about legal advice pertaining to Facebook. I was asking if she can legally ban him from picking up his son.

 

[Zigner]

Actually the daycare provider is the one in trouble. Dad can take this to court and force mom to change daycares due to the daycare's actions and mom's threats. And dad has the same access as mom per state law I do believe. Unless the provider got a court order.

I'm not so sure. I believe that a private business has the right to refuse access to individuals so long as it's not based on a protected characteristic. This isn't a school setting.

 

[Ohiogal]

I'm not so sure. I believe that a private business has the right to refuse access to individuals so long as it's not based on a protected characteristic. This isn't a school setting.

Dad should hightail it back to court to get an order changing the daycare due to the "private business" interfering with his court ordered right to access to his child. Or better yet, he should call the police and have the police escort him to retrieve his child from the daycare every day it is his turn and if the daycare gives him issues, file a criminal complaint against them.

 

[Zigner]

Dad should hightail it back to court to get an order changing the daycare due to the "private business" interfering with his court ordered right to access to his child. Or better yet, he should call the police and have the police escort him to retrieve his child from the daycare every day it is his turn and if the daycare gives him issues, file a criminal complaint against them.

I agree that the dad should look at requesting a change in daycare.

 

[Sinsaint]

On the father's side, right?

If you want to complain to someone, tell it to Dad. Tell him to control his behavior. Maybe if he gets the fallout from his bad judgment from other family members, he might just think twice about doing it again.

Yes, on the father's side. I'm the same person who took her side on everything and complained numerous times to my brother that he should go back to her. The straw that broke the camel's back for me was when he got sick at daycare and she called me asking if I could pick him, watch him all day and take him to the doctor that day for her. I did so, with the understanding I had my own appointment later that day and she needed to pick him up from my home by a certain time because I couldn't miss my own appointment. I was assured that was no problem.

Until, that is, it came time for me to leave and she was a no show. I called her and gave her two options. Either my brother was going to need to pick him up or I was taking him with me and she could pick him up when got back four hours from then. She told me if I gave him to my brother she would have me arrested for kidnapping. If I left with him she'd have me arrested for kidnapping. Then she freaking called the cops. I had to explain to them I was still sitting at my house, with him and hadn't kidnapped anyone.

 

[Sinsaint]

I'm not so sure. I believe that a private business has the right to refuse access to individuals so long as it's not based on a protected characteristic. This isn't a school setting.

I believe she advertises as a pre-school. It's run out of the woman's house.

 

[Zigner]

I believe she advertises as a pre-school. It's run out of the woman's house.

It's not school.

 

[Just Blue]

I'm the one who had to pick him up today. The child's aunt.

Please have the LEGAL party post for himself. Thanks!!

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