$8,000 Withdrawl

[OP85063]

What is the name of your state? New York

Hey guys,
Today I got a call, from a stranger on the streets. short story.
My mother was going to buy some food and three black ladies stoped her and did something to her, I don't know what. But the told her to go back to her job and told her she need to leave and she did just that.

She nevers give people her info or any of mine or her info. But I don't know what these people do to her, she said she kind of know what she was doing, but she answer all the questions they asked her. The ask her, her account number and she give it to them. The drove her the bank, and request her taking 8K out of her account. She didn't have proper ID's so the didn't give it to her.

The ladies then drive her home, she rush in the house and when my sister asked, she ignore her and rush right back out with her ID. She would never do anything like this on her own, she works 7 days a week as an home health aid. She went back to the bank, and the give her the money. After a while she said the drove her to a lonely spot and push her out of the car and take off. She wad very dizzy and no one would stop to help her, everyone tough she was drunk and was a crazy lady. One guy finally stop and help out and called me, i left right away and go to where she is... she went to the hospital and everything checks out fine, all trace for drugs came back negative.

One of the lady did went into the bank with her..a police report was filed and everything already.

My questions is, wasn't the bank suppose to question her why she need 8K, espically when someone is right next to her?

Is there a why bank insurance cover this, or part of this?

Is there any advice you guys can give me?

She's 49 years old and she works very very hard for her money. She works 7 days a week for the last 4 years. Please help with any advice you can, please

Thank you
Mike

 

[Antigone*]

What is the name of your state? New York

Hey guys,
Today I got a call, from a stranger on the streets. short story.
My mother was going to buy some food and three black ladies stoped her and did something to her, I don't know what. But the told her to go back to her job and told her she need to leave and she did just that.

She nevers give people her info or any of mine or her info. But I don't know what these people do to her, she said she kind of know what she was doing, but she answer all the questions they asked her. The ask her, her account number and she give it to them. The drove her the bank, and request her taking 8K out of her account. She didn't have proper ID's so the didn't give it to her.

The ladies then drive her home, she rush in the house and when my sister asked, she ignore her and rush right back out with her ID. She would never do anything like this on her own, she works 7 days a week as an home health aid. She went back to the bank, and the give her the money. After a while she said the drove her to a lonely spot and push her out of the car and take off. She wad very dizzy and no one would stop to help her, everyone tough she was drunk and was a crazy lady. One guy finally stop and help out and called me, i left right away and go to where she is... she went to the hospital and everything checks out fine, all trace for drugs came back negative.

One of the lady did went into the bank with her..a police report was filed and everything already.

My questions is, wasn't the bank suppose to question her why she need 8K, espically when someone is right next to her?

Is there a why bank insurance cover this, or part of this?

Is there any advice you guys can give me?

She's 49 years old and she works very very hard for her money. She works 7 days a week for the last 4 years. Please help with any advice you can, please

Thank you
Mike

Hello Mike,

This is a very sad situation for your mother and I'm sorry that this happened to her.

The bank did nothing wrong here. To a teller doing their job and servicing their customer, she was just that - another customer. There is nothing wrong with taking out $8k in cash.

It seem to me that your mom had several opportunities to ask for help and for one reason or another did not.

I can offer one piece of advice, though. Make sure that law enforcement asks the bank for the video of the transaction, this might help in aprehending the people who hurt your mom.

 

[las365]

Your mother fell victim to a scam of some kind. Usually the victim is convinced by the scammers that she will get a huge amount of money if she gives them $$ to show good faith or some such baloney.

I understand why you are upset, but banks aren't really supposed to prevent people from getting their own money from their accounts. Cash transactions require additional paperwork if they are over $10,000, so this withdrawal didn't meet that.

It isn't impossible that these scamers drugged your mom, but usually they just use fast talk, tales of huge monetary payoffs, and their practiced skills to gain sympathy and trust and then lure, convince, pressure, confuse and work people's greed to get them to fall for the scam.

 

[OP85063]

Thank you for the respond...

New Update.

I just looked at the ID's she took and both ID are expired. And the still give her the mondy, one id is a NYS non driver's id that has been expired about 5 years not, and the other is her US passport that has been expire about 2 years with two holes punch in it.

These are not valid ID's, they both are expired.

Is there anything can be done in that sense?

 

[Ozark_Sophist]

Thank you for the respond...

New Update.

I just looked at the ID's she took and both ID are expired. And the still give her the mondy, one id is a NYS non driver's id that has been expired about 5 years not, and the other is her US passport that has been expire about 2 years with two holes punch in it.

These are not valid ID's, they both are expired.

Is there anything can be done in that sense?

If your question pertains to the bank having any responsiblity in your mother giving money to strangers, no. It was your mother's money. She withdrew it. She gave it to a third party.

 

[Antigone*]

Thank you for the respond...

New Update.

I just looked at the ID's she took and both ID are expired. And the still give her the mondy, one id is a NYS non driver's id that has been expired about 5 years not, and the other is her US passport that has been expire about 2 years with two holes punch in it.

These are not valid ID's, they both are expired.

Is there anything can be done in that sense?

The exipiration date on an ID doesn't mean the person is no longer valid - she is still the same person. Your mother went to her bank to withdraw her money. Any other day of the week, you'd be in here screaming about how the bank violated your mom by not giving her her own money. Come on, you are really grasping at straws here.

The responsibity for this crime lies in two places here. First and foremost with the crooks who took your mom's money and secondly with the person who went back to work, ran into her house, and drove to the bank with them.

 

[Ozark_Sophist]

The responsibity for this crime lies in two places here. First and foremost with the crooks who took your mom's money and secondly with the person who went back to work, ran into her house, and drove to the bank with them.

It is not a crime to give money away. It is not a crime to ask to be given money.

There is more to the story.

 

[OP85063]

I don't know how much more you want to hear when there's no more to the story.

I do pray that this does not happen to one of your love once and pray if it does, that they are not hurt or killed or anything like that. She was left in the strees dizzy and no one will stop to help, but that does not matter to you anyway

Within a day of this happen there are several case that people stop in the street and say they know people who this happened to. I know someone who's going to speak with the city councle and try to do something about it, buz the cops are not.

I'll just say as a word of advised let your family know about it.

Thank for those you actually respond with some help and those who did not

Mike

 

[las365]

The "more to the story" is your mother's tale of what the scammers said to her, how she was convinced to give them money, and why she did so.

I understand that you are angry that she was scammed and I don't understand why the police would choose not to investigate. This kind of theft by deception is illegal.

I don't understand why you are angry with people on a message board who tell you that it is not illegal for a bank to allow a person to wthdraw her own money from her own bank account. Even if there was someone else with her. Even if her ID was expired. It is not a bank's role to ask why someone is withdrawing money and decide whether or not to let her do it.

You are trying to place blame on the bank. The bank has no legal liablity for the fact that your mother was scammed.

That doesn't mean that people don't think it's terrible that bad people tricked your mom and took her money. I'd be dizzy, too, if I realized I had just been ripped off for a huge amount of money. I feel sympathy for your mother. But what happened is not the fault of the bank.

 

[OP85063]

Listen guys, I'm sorry if I come across angry at you guys. This is a tough for my mother right now and I know how hard she works for her money.

I know the bank did nothing wrong here, but I am guessing they should at lease take additional steps to fork out $8K to someone with all expired document.

But anyway thanks for the help.

 

[OP85063]

Question again guys.

Between May 2nd and Today May 7th. I've manage to collect close to 30 people who this has happened to? The police dropped all the case, they surely can't believe that all these people are giving their money away?

Can I get the FBI look into this, I can understand a few people, who knows how many other reports are sitting there just open and close and no one is doing anything? All of this is happening in ONE COMMUNITY, one area.

How would I go about doing this.

Thanks

 

[las365]

Have you been able to identify the perpetrators? Since the local police aren't acting, maybe your state's Attorney General could help.

 

[Happy Trails]

OP85063, it has been a week now since this happened.

What did your mother say the reason was that she withdrew the money and gave it to these people?

What about the other 30 people this happened to, what did they say their reason was for doing the same thing?

 

[OP85063]

OP85063, it has been a week now since this happened.

What did your mother say the reason was that she withdrew the money and gave it to these people?

What about the other 30 people this happened to, what did they say their reason was for doing the same thing?

All of them are not sure why, I get the same answer from ALL of them, not one is different, include my mother story.

They are not sure what happen, they were approached by three black female, they were asked questions, and after that, whatever is being ask of them to do, they just do it, as if a parents is telling a child to do something and they are obeying.

I mean EVERY SINGLE one of them, I get the same story. It's spooky I'll admit that and sounds crazy.

Well according to the police they did went to the bank and saw the video with her and the women in the bank. The End.. that's all the police said, and they will call her back... haven't heard from them yet.

All of the other case as well one of the female always go into the bank with the person to withdrawal the money.

I'm waiting to see the respond from the police department and I'll let you guys know. In the mean time, I'll look up some info on how to contact my State's Attorney General.

PS: I was at the laundry mat yesterday with my mother, and the owner of the laundry mat said this happened to him also about 2 years ago. The never heard back from the police.

 

[Country Living]

....they were approached by three black female....

Sigh.... I don't even know what to say....