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GrandmaOH

Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? IN

Son's ex-wife divorced him in early 2013, she got the house and the little collateral in it. Her lawyer had him sign a quit-claim so she could refinance in her name. He assumed she did, they kept living together until Dec 2013 in the house. He never saw any bills. He finally moved out in Dec 2013. In Feb 2014 she sold everything in the house that could be moved; it had all appliances when they bought it. She turned off the power and the basement subsequently flooded. In mid 2014 she filed bankruptcy. He received notice of her bankruptcy but thought it had nothing to do with him.
He just learned a couple months ago that the house has gone in to foreclosure. His name is listed as a Defendant and the court records said he was served by mail and by posting a notice on the house. He never received any mail, he hadn't lived there in a year so I'm not sure if the PO keeps forwarding letters at that point. He never went back to the house, it wasn't his, so he never got anything that was posted. That was in Dec 2014. In March 2015 a default judgment was entered with the full amount of the loan awarded against our son. A couple weeks after the default judgment, a 'Praecipe for order of sale' was entered on the court record. What will they sell?

The ex-wife held the title. Our son has a beater vehicle to get to work, child support, student loans, lawyer bills to fight the ex-wife's lies that have interfered with his visits with their child, etc. After gutting the house, letting it flood and sit empty for over a year it's probably worth a tenth of the loan amount on it now.

Since the ex filed bankruptcy before the house was foreclosed, who would have the title now? Is our sons only option to file bankruptcy to get out from under the debt?
 


STEPHAN

Senior Member
It was a mistake to sign a quit-claim before she refinanced the house.

He had signed the mortgage, so he is still fully responsible for it. He ignored all warnings.

I would have a good lawyer check out if he was properly served. Also, it is time to find a solution with the mortgage company.
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
It was a mistake to sign a quit-claim before she refinanced the house.

He had signed the mortgage, so he is still fully responsible for it. He ignored all warnings.

I would have a good lawyer check out if he was properly served. Also, it is time to find a solution with the mortgage company.

I think its too late to find a solution with the mortgage company. Bankruptcy may very well be his only option.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
https://forum.freeadvice.com/consumer-bankruptcy-2/ex-failed-refinance-now-filing-bankruptcy-605858.html
Grandma you really need to let your son grow up and handle this himself.
 

GrandmaOH

Member
https://forum.freeadvice.com/consumer-bankruptcy-2/ex-failed-refinance-now-filing-bankruptcy-605858.html
Grandma you really need to let your son grow up and handle this himself.

Just because I typed the question doesn't mean he isn't handling this himself. I figured even if he signed up it would come from the same IP and you'd all accuse me of writing the question anyway.

He knows now it was a mistake to sign the quit claim, he thought he had to because she was awarded the house and lawyer asked him to sign it. He never thought she'd do all she has since they split.

He was also concerned that even if he paid the debt to the mortgage company, his ex-wife would still hold title to the house.
 
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GrandmaOH

Member
An update on what our son's lawyer did:
1. She filed to vacate the default judgment for lack of proper service.
2. She included in her motion that their divorce decree ordered 'husband' to sign quitclaim deed, so he signed it per court order.
3. She included in her motion that their divorce decree ordered 'wife' to assume all mortgage on the house along with the house, and there is a 'hold harmless' clause to protect 'husband' from debt on the house.

This was just filed this past week.



I'm curious, what should have our son done when the exwife's lawyer presented our son with the court order that said to sign the quitclaim deed and the papers to sign? With the court order he didn't feel he had any choice. The ex told him he had to sign the quitclaim before she could get a new mortgage. He thought he was doing the right thing, legally.
 

single317dad

Senior Member
An update on what our son's lawyer did:
1. She filed to vacate the default judgment for lack of proper service.
2. She included in her motion that their divorce decree ordered 'husband' to sign quitclaim deed, so he signed it per court order.
3. She included in her motion that their divorce decree ordered 'wife' to assume all mortgage on the house along with the house, and there is a 'hold harmless' clause to protect 'husband' from debt on the house.

This was just filed this past week.



I'm curious, what should have our son done when the exwife's lawyer presented our son with the court order that said to sign the quitclaim deed and the papers to sign? With the court order he didn't feel he had any choice. The ex told him he had to sign the quitclaim before she could get a new mortgage. He thought he was doing the right thing, legally.

Well, there's his problem: it's not that he followed a court order; it's that he took legal advice from his ex-wife.
 

GrandmaOH

Member
Well, there's his problem: it's not that he followed a court order; it's that he took legal advice from his ex-wife.

Actually, it was her lawyer that told him he had to sign it per the court order. The ex did tell him that, but he did what he was ordered to do by the court.

I guess he'll be able to sue her for damages to him because SHE didn't do as ordered by court?
 

STEPHAN

Senior Member
I guess he'll be able to sue her for damages to him because SHE didn't do as ordered by court?
He can sue her all day long. If she does not have money and does simply not qualify for a new mortgage he would just be throwing out more money.
 

GrandmaOH

Member
Just an update. Son's lawyer met with ex's lawyer and order was signed yesterday. The foreclosure judgment against our son is being reversed and removed from his credit. Son's lawyer suggested filing contempt charges against her for not following the divorce decree. Also filing to get lawyers fees back.

That's not what I expected after reading here, but he is very happy!
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
Just an update. Son's lawyer met with ex's lawyer and order was signed yesterday. The foreclosure judgment against our son is being reversed and removed from his credit. Son's lawyer suggested filing contempt charges against her for not following the divorce decree. Also filing to get lawyers fees back.

That's not what I expected after reading here, but he is very happy!

Grandma, that concerns me a little. If you had said that your son's attorney met with the mortgage company's attorney and something was settled, then it would make sense. However, he ex's attorney has no authority/power to get anything removed from your son's credit report...or to get your son off the hook for the mortgage, either.
 

GrandmaOH

Member
Grandma, that concerns me a little. If you had said that your son's attorney met with the mortgage company's attorney and something was settled, then it would make sense. However, he ex's attorney has no authority/power to get anything removed from your son's credit report...or to get your son off the hook for the mortgage, either.

I went back to the email my son forwarded from his attorney. Which attorney his spoke to is rather ambiguous and son assumed his attorney meant the ex's attorney. Quote from son's attorney:
"On another subject, I spoke with the attorney in the foreclosure matter and she is going to remove your name from the judgement so that it will no longer effect your credit, just hers. "

I just looked up all the attorneys in the foreclosure, they are all women. Now that you mention it, it would make sense it was the mortgage company's attorney. Son just assumed it was the ex's attorney since prior information on custody issues referenced ex's attorney.
 

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