Arrested on false allegations/charges decline; BUT, no way to get my property back...

[RobbedBySO]

What is the name of your state? Oklahoma

What is the name of your state? Oklahoma

I was arrested on 09/05 on false allegations, held through 09/21, no charges have or will be filed (formally decline on 10/21.) Property was "released" by the DA's office; BUT, the SO had seized 3 semi-trailers, used for storage on my land & containing much of what I own. In the course of doing so, they ran up a towing & storage bill of approx. $7000!!! (Which is going up at $105/day!!!) The trailers were impounded due to deputies wanting to go home and inventory later, after an advisory call to the DA's office. (Wheel and door locks would've been just as effective!) Trailers were NOT listed for seizure in the search warrant, only mentioned in the general desciption of the location to be searched. The only 1 of the 3 which could have even remotely had any relevence, had the allegations been true, had electric, water, drain, and sewer lines. (Unfortunately) all had wheels; but, none had been on the road/tagged/etc. for over 2 years; and, were not intended to ever be moved, other than for minor repositioning on my 7 acres. I (try to) survive on $521/mo.; so, I'm even blocked (by poverty) from a replevin action, to "stop the hemorrhaging." I CANNOT lose these trailers to the wrecker company!!!!! This is DEFINITELY NOT the America I THOUGHT I lived in if my property can just be stripped away from me due to a false allegation!!!!!!!! It SHOULD be a violation of my 4th Amendment rights for my property to be stolen from me when there wasn't even enough of a case for any charges to be filed... At the very least, they should have been held on county property; or, the county should be responsible for the bill they ran up! Any suit against the county (or, anything else, for that matter) would need to be on a contingency basis, due to poverty. If nothing else, is there anyone reading this with enough passion for justice to at least front me the money to get them out pending legal remedies, to keep the storage from continuing to climb??? SOMEONE PLEASE HELP....

 

[JETX]

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[rmet4nzkx]

Have you contacted the DA office re the "return" as opposed to the "release" of your property, if there was and error, they should waive the impound fees etc. This may take time. Just because the charges were dropped doesn't mean they are without foundation so if there was a mistake that is one thing. Many years ago when I was in college my vehicle was towed in error, they had taged a similar vehicle to be moved in 72 hours and towed mine the next day 24 hours, so there were 2 errors. Within hours, My neighbor an attorney helped me get the problem resolved, however, I ran into the same problem because the contract for towing is separate from the city and the towing company refused to release my car without paying the impound fees, it took weeks for the city to resolve the issue so I could retrieve my car, which when I went to the impound yard, had been trashed when they did the inventory and the battery dead. Somehow, If you were held for so long, I have a feeling there is something you are not telling us.

 

[JETX]

Have you contacted the DA office.

Why are YOU posting a response to this multiple thread???
Are you too friggin' lazy to click on the flippin' link and put your response there??

You should know better!!

 

[RobbedBySO]

Reply

I have a feeling there is something you are not telling us.

If I were to include all of the details, the post would be so long that no one would bother to read it. What it boils down to is that, IF the allegations had been truthful, this would have been extremely serious. They WERE, however, lies, made by an unstable individual with ulterior motives. I, on the other hand, not only volunteered to take a polygraph; but, when that offer was countered with, "That would cost too much. We only do that in things like murder cases..." I even volunteered to sign a contact authorizing payment by direct debit from my checking account, in the hypothetical event that I were to fail it. This was less than 48 hours after my arrest; but, I was denied any such test. I cooperated fully with the investigators, without even asking that an attorney be appointed; since, in my mind, it should have been blatently obvious to anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together that he was lying through his teeth. Even now, I'd be willing to take a polygraph, under the same terms I offered the SO, even though the DA's office has closed the case without charges, just to clear my reputation and/or get my belongings back. Even the Sheriff, while we were inventorying my other property (held over in the annex building) made the comment, "Within just a few minutes of talking to that squirrel, I knew that we had a major problem on our hands..." That didn't occur until a couple of days after I was in jail, though. The Deputy who got the warrant wasn't as sharp as the Sherrif was; and, by then, things had snowballed. By then, it's my guess that they were searching for SOMETHING to try to charge me with, to perhaps get me to waive the right to sue them as some part of a plea agreement. A month after I got out of jail, they gave up on even doing that.

Have you contacted the DA office.

Yes, and, gotten nowhere. I'm told that; since charges were never filed, I can't even obtain a copy of the affidavit that the search warrant was based upon. They're trying to say that it's now between Jimmy's Wrecker Service and I. They consider themselves "out of the loop" now.

From Jetx:

Why are YOU posting a response to this multiple thread???

It would seem that not everyone is as snitty about that sort of thing as you appear to be; and, that sometimes issues are more of a priority than protocols. I understand that some people find cross-posting to different areas annoying; but, as I said in my earlier reply, not everyone who comes here reads all of the threads. Different people read different areas of the forum; and, this situation truly does "fit" under all 3 of the categories. If $105 per day seems like such trivial pocket change to you, perhaps you'd like to offer to help out, instead of just wasting your time flaming me and those who choose to try to offer constructive feedback???

Are you too friggin' lazy to click on the flippin' link and put your response there??

Although I don't really understand you comment, much less your referrence to laziness; I do feel sorry for you that you seem to feel the need to be so vitriolic.

You should know better!!

I'm not sure which of us you were referring to; but, I'm brand new here and I'm generally so involved with just trying to make it from one day to the next that I don't have the time to hang out on message boards. If I did, I'd spend that time trying to be helpful; rather than wasting it on flaming...

 

[JETX]

rmet...
See what you have started by responding to a duplicate post???
Now the idiot is going to try to start multiple conversations.... each going in their own direction!!!

Lets try this again....

THIS THREAD IS ONE OF MANY MULTIPLE POSTS STARTED BY THIS SAME IDIOT!!
Responding to this thread, or any of his other ones besides the 'primary' (link below) is going to start multiple conversations each one different than the others. This will lead to confusion in responses.... and confusion for the poster when he gets likely contradicting 'opinions'.

For responses, go to: https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=286677

 

[RobbedBySO]

Note to anyone who actually has something useful to say:
Rather than allowing this weirdo "Jetx" to deter you; or, before putting any weight on his flaming, take a look at his posting history:
https://forum.freeadvice.com/search.php?searchid=822351 It would appear that he entertains himself by prowling this site looking for any possible opporunity to make snide and/or derisive comments, rather than trying to be useful.

As for his claim that this in only one of many "multiple posts" that I've supposively made: I'd never even been to this site before the night I put this question to the forums here. Yes, it's posted in more than one area of this site; BUT, the opperative term is "more than one area." What Jetx doesn't seem to comprehend is that very few people have the time or inclination to read this entire web site. The 3 places I put it have different audiences; and, any of those specific audiences could have useful input on this problem.

What "confuses" me is why anyone gets their rocks off by hanging out on their computer just looking for places they can make an idiot out of themselves by being a flamer.

Don't let him deter you. This is a very real situation, which is getting worse by the day. I REALLY need constructive input about what I can do to keep from losing most of what I own. If you don't want to risk subjecting yourself to this jerk's snide comments, just e-mail me directly.

 

[BelizeBreeze]

TRIPLICATE post. For responses, go to: https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=286677

 

[JETX]

THIS THREAD IS ONE OF MANY MULTIPLE POSTS STARTED BY THIS SAME IDIOT!!
Responding to this thread, or any of his other ones besides the 'primary' (link below) is going to start multiple conversations each one different than the others.
For responses, go to: https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=286677

 

[JETX]

It would appear that he entertains himself by prowling this site looking for any possible opporunity to make snide and/or derisive comments, rather than trying to be useful.

And just like the problems you have created for yourself.... your assumptions are false.

As for his claim that this in only one of many "multiple posts" that I've supposively made

SUPPOSEDLY!!! That implies you have NOT done it.

Yes, it's posted in more than one area of this site

Then you admit you have done... what you just said was 'supposedly' done!!
You ARE an idiot!!

What Jetx doesn't seem to comprehend is that very few people have the time or inclination to read this entire web site. The 3 places I put it have different audiences; and, any of those specific audiences could have useful input on this problem.

And what YOU don't know (ignorance again!!), is that most of us senior members don't TROLL the website... we have a systematic method to read almost every post that is made.... and then respond to the ones that are of interest or our knowledge.

What "confuses" me is why anyone gets their rocks off by hanging out on their computer just looking for places they can make an idiot out of themselves by being a flamer.

And what confuses most intelligent people is how some idiots come on this site asking for assistance... then get pissed off when they get it. And even more idiotic is those that continue to post to duplicate threads when it was pointed out to them.

I have a pretty simple solution to this problem.... and will exercise it in a few. Say goodbye to this thread... and your others.

 

[HomeGuru]

goodbye and good riddance.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

rmet...
See what you have started by responding to a duplicate post???
Now the idiot is going to try to start multiple conversations.... each going in their own direction!!!

Lets try this again....

THIS THREAD IS ONE OF MANY MULTIPLE POSTS STARTED BY THIS SAME IDIOT!!
Responding to this thread, or any of his other ones besides the 'primary' (link below) is going to start multiple conversations each one different than the others. This will lead to confusion in responses.... and confusion for the poster when he gets likely contradicting 'opinions'.

For responses, go to: https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=286677

Jet,
I answered you yesterday and apparently that and at least one other response on an unrelated thread have disappeared.

This is not a duplicate or triplicate post, this was the original or "primary" Thread posted 10-29-2005, 05:38 AM so it was the last one you encountered going backwards, but OP's primary thread which you have confirmed to which I should have replied. The thread you referenced https://forum.freeadvice.com/showthread.php?t=286677 has no responses, was the second thread and posted 10-29-2005, 06:06 AM approx 20 min later. Therefore when I posted, I posted on the original thread as per the unwritten rule, the subsequent threads can be deleted since there were no responses given on them. I am not responsible for the confusion.
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To OP,
As long as it was, your subsequent response, still offers no real explaination as to what really happened. Declining a public defender only proves that you are in serious need of help of some kind or you are shining us on, which is it?

 

[JETX]

Jet,
I answered you yesterday and apparently that and at least one other response on an unrelated thread have disappeared.

This is not a duplicate or triplicate post, this was the original or "primary" Thread posted 10-29-2005, 05:38 AM so it was the last one you encountered going backwards

Since you seem so intent on 'playing games'... let me tell you how it IS.

When I (or anyone else) reviews the new posts on the forum... they are listed from the most recent backwards. Simply that means you (and I) will see the newest first. When I notice that someone has posted multiple threads on the same subject, I first look to see if any of them have a response. If one of them has a response, that one becomes the 'primary'.... and is referred to in the others. In this case, none of those other threads had posts... so I took whichever one was open at the time.... and made it the 'primary', with links referring them to only ONE thread. I don't care if the clock shows one was made one minute before the others. That is NOT the concern. The ONLY issue is that, in order to minimize confusion and cross-posts, only ONE message be the primary.
I did that on this one. And instead of simply clicking on the offered link... and posting your stuff to the ONE thread... you were too lazy... and put your 'stuff' here. You did exactly what was NOT intended.
Then, when 'called' on it... you try to play some 'clock game' to try to excuse your idiocy. Sorry, Darlin'.... doesn't work.

Lets play your silly time 'game' for a minute:
This poster has made three (now FOUR) identical threads. They are:
1) 10-29-2005, 07:38 AM (this thread)
2) 10-29-2005, 08:06 AM
3) 10-29-2005, 08:11 AM
4) 10-30-2005, 06:08 AM

It really makes no difference at all as to the time a thread was made... only that ALL of them were consolidated into one single post.... to prevent confusion and cross-posting.

The bottom line to this is.... you made your post to a thread that you KNEW was made multiple times... and ended up with the exact scenario I tried to prevent!!

You and I have crossed swords many times... usually over your inability to 'play by the rules' on the forum... and no, they are not written ones.... but should be common sense to anyone with any.
We can resolve this easily.... with your deleting your post to this thread (cut and paste it to the 'primary' one if you want).... or we can do this another way. Your posts to the medical area of this forum have been of benefit... but I am really getting tired of trying to be logical with you. Your choice. Choose your 'medicine'.