blacklisting

[mulan123]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?

I am being blacklisting by my employer, a school district. I was asked to doctor student data, by my boss and refused; directly after this, I filed a girevance and my job was cut. I have been bounced around now for two years because I filed a grievance, as there was no justifiable reason to cut me.

The union has refused to send my blacklisting claim to an arbitrator stating that there is not refutable proof that shows the blacklisitng is DIRECTLY realted to my filing of a girevance., even though I have data to prove this, as well as an HR "offer in WRITING" to give me good references for jobs OUTSIDE the district. They have all but admitted it. I have lots of hard proof.

With the new law in my state, educators like me, are being told they if a principal doesn't hire them after they are cut from a building they have one school year to be hired after that they can be let go permanently from the district. I cannot overcome this as HR is telling principals not to hire me.

I hired an outside reference firm that confirmed the discrepencies in that I have a perfect personnel file and over six letter of references that are glowing but, the verbal reccomendation have "mysteriously, by all four former principals turned negative and are NOT opinions but material misrepresentations of my work history causing me to be not hired. I had two jobs offers in writing and then rescinded due to "verbal references not matching my letters of reference from former principals. "

Aren't these violations of my fourteenth ammendment and first ammendment rights since I cannot obtain employment due to the blacklist?

By the way, the union has not followed their own agreement, which states they are charged with "requesting all pertinent information from the district as to the grievant's charges." They have not done this. I have exhausted all my administrative remedies. They, nor the attorney for our state union will respond to my appeal.

 

[stealth2]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?

I am being blacklisting by my employer, a school district. I was asked to doctor student data, by my boss and refused; directly after this, I filed a girevance and my job was cut. I have been bounced around now for two years because I filed a grievance, as there was no justifiable reason to cut me.

The union has refused to send my blacklisting claim to an arbitrator stating that there is not refutable proof that shows the blacklisitng is DIRECTLY realted to my filing of a girevance., even though I have data to prove this, as well as an HR "offer in WRITING" to give me good references for jobs OUTSIDE the district. They have all but admitted it. I have lots of hard proof.

With the new law in my state, educators like me, are being told they if a principal doesn't hire them after they are cut from a building they have one school year to be hired after that they can be let go permanently from the district. I cannot overcome this as HR is telling principals not to hire me.

I hired an outside reference firm that confirmed the discrepencies in that I have a perfect personnel file and over six letter of references that are glowing but, the verbal reccomendation have "mysteriously, by all four former principals turned negative and are NOT opinions but material misrepresentations of my work history causing me to be not hired. I had two jobs offers in writing and then rescinded due to "verbal references not matching my letters of reference from former principals. "

Aren't these violations of my fourteenth ammendment and first ammendment rights since I cannot obtain employment due to the blacklist?

By the way, the union has not followed their own agreement, which states they are charged with "requesting all pertinent information from the district as to the grievant's charges." They have not done this. I have exhausted all my administrative remedies. They, nor the attorney for our state union will respond to my appeal.

Maybe it's me. But I kind of expect teachers to be able to (a) answer relevant questions (i.e. What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? ) and (b) proofread for typos, misspellings and grammatical errors. Maybe you were let go for other reasons.

 

[mulan123]

Maybe it's me but I kind of expect people to take my question seriously. I am not a teacher, I am an administrator with a PhD and bad typing ability. Seriously, do you have an opinion or are you not able to understand the questions posed?

 

[mulan123]

Gramatically speaking, you my dear are off as well. "Maybe its me. But, - is way off. It should be Maybe it's me, but ( the preposition follows and does not stand alone as a new thought or sentence.)

 

[cbg]

And we expect people to take the rules of the site seriously. You can either post your state, or you can go without answers.

 

[mulan123]

While I am on a roll.... They don't let educators GO for misspellings. We are doing a job most of you could never do... Teach your children how to think...

 

[mulan123]

You are correct, on one account. Due process is still in effect. You are not correct in that I have been let go or fired. I am still employed.

 

[TheGeekess]

While I am on a roll.... They don't let educators GO for misspellings. We are doing a job most of you could never do... Teach your children how to think...

Yeah, right. I watched so called 'educators' in Wisconsin trash a capital building and throw a major hissy fit because they weren't getting their way. Don't think I want children learning that.

If you won't answer the question about the state this took place in, then you are wasting our time and yours.

 

[CdwJava]

Since you have not indicated your state, none of us can begin to suggest remedies.

About all that we can say is that if the case is as glaring as you seem to think it is, I imagine that you will have no problems obtaining legal counsel so that you can sue the district.

Do you have PROOF of this conspiracy by H.R. to undermine your chances with each principal? And, do you have proof that this conspiracy involves some form of unlawful act? If this is theory or rumor, you will have a tough time of it.

However, as you are probably in an "at-will" position, your claim to a specific position is likely weaker than it might be. Whether or not the district has to justify your position being cut is iffy. Given the current state of budgets nation wide, I suspect that justification for cutting most any overhead will be seen as justified with minimal explanation.

Not every case of someone not fitting in will be a case of unlawful conduct.

Good luck.

 

[justalayman]

While I am on a roll.... They don't let educators GO for misspellings. We are doing a job most of you could never do... Teach your children how to think...

Well, based on the overall rating of the US students in a worldwide comparison, you are failing miserably.

No, you do nothing that most here couldn't do.

 

[stealth2]

Maybe it's me but I kind of expect people to take my question seriously. I am not a teacher, I am an administrator with a PhD and bad typing ability. Seriously, do you have an opinion or are you not able to understand the questions posed?

Piled higher and deeper. Not impressed. Especially since you STILL refuse to answer the question regarding the state. Can you not comprehend that it is necessary information to answer your question? Until you do so, you'll get nothing but conversation.

While I am on a roll.... They don't let educators GO for misspellings. We are doing a job most of you could never do... Teach your children how to think...

You're not doing squat about teaching anyone. You're a glorified secretary.

 

[mulan123]

Wow, such bitterness, I believe I have over estimated the existence of good people wanting to genuinely help others. I have never seen such animosity. I CANNOT tell you what western state I reside in for fear of further reprisals. If you were not aware recently a teacher was fired for blogging about her class ANONOMOUSLY.

My case is legitimate. As I said, with the high stakes environment education has become, I found myself being asked to do something unethical, manufacture student learning and teacher learning data. I refused. Now I am being starved out of a job for standing up for principles of ethics.

How mean to call me names and call me a glorified secretary. I have spent over 20 years in formal education, to learn how to teach students and teachers in inner city schools making barely enough to get by. My own family will suffer because our system is set up to win at any cost. I don't live that way. I sleep well knowing what I do for a living is tough. I see kids every day who have crack addicted parents, I feed them. I see kids who don't have clothes, I get them and sir, and I do make a difference by opening the world of learning and wonder to these starved children every day.

I am sorry you all feel you cannot advise me because I cannot tell you what state I am in, but I am just not willing to take that risk.

I am very dissapointed in how I have been treated here, save for the gentleman this morning.

ANSWER: Yes, sir, I do have proof of what HR is doing in that;
1. A principal recently sent HR an email stating that he had chosen me for a position of leadership in his school (not a classroom teaching job) and was rescinding it due to the discrepencies between my letters of support and the verbal feedback these former supervisors gave when he called them. He told Hr something was wrong in his e-mail and suggested "figure it out."

2.During a meeting with union representatives and HR recently, the offer, put in WRITING by HR was to have a very high up assistant superintendent give OUTSIDE districts EXCELLENT references, not internal principals. Thus, they are starving me out because I won't lie cheat and steal.

 

[mulan123]

Here are the legal codes or statutes from my state regarding blacklisting:
Publishing or maintaining a blacklist. Conspiring or contriving to prevent a discharged employee from securing other employment.

Notifying another employer that a former employee has been blacklisted.

Any employer that provides written information to a prospective employer about a current or former employee, shall, upon that employee’s request, send a copy to the employee’s last known address. The subject of such a reference may also obtain a copy by appearing at the employer or former employer’s place of business during normal business hours.

 

[CdwJava]

I am sorry you all feel you cannot advise me because I cannot tell you what state I am in, but I am just not willing to take that risk.

As laws can vary a great deal by state, it is important to know what state you are in. Not having that info leaves little room for discussion.

ANSWER: Yes, sir, I do have proof of what HR is doing in that;
1. A principal recently sent HR an email stating that he had chosen me for a position of leadership in his school (not a classroom teaching job) and was rescinding it due to the discrepencies between my letters of support and the verbal feedback these former supervisors gave when he called them. He told Hr something was wrong in his e-mail and suggested "figure it out."

2.During a meeting with union representatives and HR recently, the offer, put in WRITING by HR was to have a very high up assistant superintendent give OUTSIDE districts EXCELLENT references, not internal principals. Thus, they are starving me out because I won't lie cheat and steal.

Then, perhaps, you should consider taking this to an attorney and see if he or she believes it as strong as you believe it to be. You may be surprised. What you believed to be good evidence may not be so strong. Or, it might be quite damning. But, a lot depends on the laws in your state and whether or not the allegations you make can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

[cbg]

I'm sorry you feel that the rules of this site do not apply to you. The chances that you are making yourself identifiable by posting your state are so slim as to be almost unseeable. But if you won't, you won't.

Just know that even posting what you believe to be the applicable laws are not enough, since without being able to research them ourselves we can't know if you (either deliberately or innocently) left out an applicable statute that might change the answer.

In other words, no state; no advice.