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lokeen

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What is the name of your state? CA

What determines the hardship assigned per child? For example, if the child lives with you and the NCP does not have visitation, does that make the harship 1.0?

Also, if the CP is not working and hasn't worked for quite sometime, is there a minimum wage figured for their income, or does it stay at $0?What is the name of your state?
 


Ohiogal

Queen Bee
lokeen said:
What is the name of your state? CA

What determines the hardship assigned per child? For example, if the child lives with you and the NCP does not have visitation, does that make the harship 1.0?

Also, if the CP is not working and hasn't worked for quite sometime, is there a minimum wage figured for their income, or does it stay at $0?What is the name of your state?
There are many more factors that go into this than just your income and the others income when it comes to hardship. IAAL should hopefully be along and fill you in on everything. Those factors include why the CP is not working and hasn't worked.
Hopefully IAAL will be along to help you out. he is the expert on CA.
 

lokeen

Member
Ohiogal said:
There are many more factors that go into this than just your income and the others income when it comes to hardship. IAAL should hopefully be along and fill you in on everything. Those factors include why the CP is not working and hasn't worked.
Hopefully IAAL will be along to help you out. he is the expert on CA.


Thanks! Hopefully he will be nice to me too, eh? :)

I am just trying run numbers through that confusing Dissomaster thing and am starting to see double!
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
lokeen said:
Thanks! Hopefully he will be nice to me too, eh? :)

I am just trying run numbers through that confusing Dissomaster thing and am starting to see double!
IAAL knows his stuff. Whether he is nice depends on his opinion of your post but usually the information you need is in there. Since CA is his domain I defer to him on exactly how CA calculates their child support. I could tell you how it is done based on Ohio's methods but that won't help you.
 

THE PRACTICE-11

Junior Member
lokeen said:
What is the name of your state? CA

What determines the hardship assigned per child? For example, if the child lives with you and the NCP does not have visitation, does that make the harship 1.0?

Also, if the CP is not working and hasn't worked for quite sometime, is there a minimum wage figured for their income, or does it stay at $0?What is the name of your state?


My response:

When did you move from Indiana to California? How long have you lived in your California county? In which State is the court order?

I'll get to your questions after you answer mine.

IAAL
 

lokeen

Member
THE PRACTICE-11 said:
My response:

When did you move from Indiana to California?

NCP lives in Indiana. Support order is in CA.

THE PRACTICE-11 said:
How long have you lived in your California county? In which State is the court order?
Suport order in Butte County, CA is originally from 1993, Modified again in 2002. CP has requested another Mod. NCP is representing himself.


THE PRACTICE-11 said:
I'll get to your questions after you answer mine.

IAAL

Thanks for any info you can give. CA is very different from IN and I'm a bit lost! :)

Also maybe important to add that 14 year old child is pregnant and not attending school, so I'm wondering how that effects hardship level in the calculations.
 
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lokeen

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Also maybe important to add that 14 year old child is pregnant and not attending school, so I'm wondering how that effects hardship level in the calculations.

Thanks again!
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
lokeen said:
Also maybe important to add that 14 year old child is pregnant and not attending school, so I'm wondering how that effects hardship level in the calculations.

Thanks again!
While pregnancy does not automatically emancipate the minor parent and in turn terminate child support, the pregnancy and education open up other issues.
How old is the putative father?
 

lokeen

Member
rmet4nzkx said:
While pregnancy does not automatically emancipate the minor parent and in turn terminate child support, the pregnancy and education open up other issues.
How old is the putative father?

Father is 17 and neither are currently attending school.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
Neither child is old enough to consnet to sex, legally, now you have an issue with the fitness of the CP re supervision of the minor child. It would be best for NCP to have an attorney, however if that is not possible, they can contact the Family Law Facilitator's office in that county's Superior Court for assistance in answering the petition for midificaiton and appear telephonically and consider petitioning the court to appoint a Guardian ad Litem for the minor child.
 

lokeen

Member
rmet4nzkx said:
Neither child is old enough to consnet to sex, legally, now you have an issue with the fitness of the CP re supervision of the minor child. It would be best for NCP to have an attorney, however if that is not possible, they can contact the Family Law Facilitator's office in that county's Superior Court for assistance in answering the petition for midificaiton and appear telephonically and consider petitioning the court to appoint a Guardian ad Litem for the minor child.

Agreed on all counts.

NCP has contacted the Family Law Facilitator's office in Butte County and has received forms to appear by telephone.

NCP has also spoke with CS Caseworker regarding medical insurance for the minor. CP currently refuses to give the necessary information to enroll daughter in NCP's medical plan because they are on Medi-Cal (I can only assume that is comparable to Indiana's Medicare????) Because of this (and please correct me if I'm wrong) the understanding is that a portion of NCP's support goes to the state instead of directly to the CP for support of the children (other child is 16 and attending school).

Also curious if there is a way to find out what other sort of governmental support minor children are receiving. Any suggestions?
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
lokeen said:
Agreed on all counts.

NCP has contacted the Family Law Facilitator's office in Butte County and has received forms to appear by telephone.

NCP has also spoke with CS Caseworker regarding medical insurance for the minor. CP currently refuses to give the necessary information to enroll daughter in NCP's medical plan because they are on Medi-Cal (I can only assume that is comparable to Indiana's Medicare????) Because of this (and please correct me if I'm wrong) the understanding is that a portion of NCP's support goes to the state instead of directly to the CP for support of the children (other child is 16 and attending school).

Also curious if there is a way to find out what other sort of governmental support minor children are receiving. Any suggestions?
Here is a link you will find very interesting and helpful.
http://www.bcoe.butte.k12.ca.us/sps/cwat/
NCP may want to contact juvenile court.
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
lokeen said:
Agreed on all counts.

NCP has contacted the Family Law Facilitator's office in Butte County and has received forms to appear by telephone.

NCP has also spoke with CS Caseworker regarding medical insurance for the minor. CP currently refuses to give the necessary information to enroll daughter in NCP's medical plan because they are on Medi-Cal (I can only assume that is comparable to Indiana's Medicare????) Because of this (and please correct me if I'm wrong) the understanding is that a portion of NCP's support goes to the state instead of directly to the CP for support of the children (other child is 16 and attending school).

Also curious if there is a way to find out what other sort of governmental support minor children are receiving. Any suggestions?


NCP had best make sure that his policy covers pregnancy costs for dependents prior to forcing the insurance issue.
 

lokeen

Member
Ldij: I've already spoken with the insurance carrier. Not only is there a state-wide network that offers coverage in their area, but the insurance co. will not treat the pregnancy as a pre-existing condition. Additionally the policy offers well baby care for the baby during its stay in the hospital. I really am doing my best to cover all bases!

Thank you Rmet for the link...very helpful!

Does anyone know how to find out what kind of government assistance CP is receiving for the children?

Also, does anyone know how the hardship factor per child is determined in CA?

Thanks so much for all of the help! :)
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
lokeen said:
Ldij: I've already spoken with the insurance carrier. Not only is there a state-wide network that offers coverage in their area, but the insurance co. will not treat the pregnancy as a pre-existing condition. Additionally the policy offers well baby care for the baby during its stay in the hospital. I really am doing my best to cover all bases!

Thank you Rmet for the link...very helpful!

Does anyone know how to find out what kind of government assistance CP is receiving for the children?

Also, does anyone know how the hardship factor per child is determined in CA?

Thanks so much for all of the help! :)
No one can answer your question re the hardship factor because a judge has latatude in considering the facts and making a decision.

A 14 year old pregnant female holds priviledge over their medical records and reproductive care, and in turn over that of their child, however, when a GAL is assigned they will have access to investigate including but not limited to the information NCP seeks.

If there is welfare fraud, it will be found. While NCP may be required to provide medical insurance, she or CP may still obtain medical care elsewhere although why one would chose to have Medicare when they have private insurance is beyond me unless they want to hide something or are under the impression that NCP would have access to their medical records, which they are not unless the minor child waives that right.
 
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