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Changing my place of birth.

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user0123456789

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I just wanted some information about the laws and legality of changing my country and city of birth.

My parents (who are both British citizens) were in Dublin Ireland when i was born. They were only there for a short trip and did not plan for me to born there. However i ended up being born much earlier than the predicted date so i ended up being born whilst i was there. My parents did not register my birth until about a week later when they came back to the UK. However the main problem is that when they registered me they decided to lie and register me as being born in London UK instead of being born in Dublin Ireland.

My parents had always planned for me to be born at home in London UK and they thought it would be easier and simpler if they just registered me as being born in London UK as that is what they had always planned. I am really annoyed they did this as i dont' like all my documents not having my real place of birth.

Now the problem is that because of this there is no records at all of me being born in Dublin Ireland. All of my official documents including my passport and birth certificate state that i was born in London UK. Additionally because the UK and Ireland share an open border there is no evidence of my parents travelling to and from Ireland either. I was also born in a house rather than a hospital (my parents had a close Irish friend who was a midwife who helped deliver me) so there won't be any Irish hospital records either.

I remember when i was younger my parents first told me and ever since (especially as i have gotten older) i have wanted to correct it to show the right place. It just doesn't feel right to have the incorrect country and city of birth on all my official documents.

So i am really stuck here. I want to change my place of birth to the correct place but i have no documents to prove it that would allow me to change it.

Additionally i realise that because i was born in Ireland (before birthright citizenship ended) i am also entitled to claim Irish citizenship. So i would really like to do this as well.

So i am looking to do two things.

1. Update and change all my British documents and records to show my place of birth as Dublin Ireland (instead of London UK).

2. Apply for Irish citizenship (and an Irish passport).

Do you know what the best way to do this would be? Is it even possible? It would just be great to finally have my real legitimate country and city of birth on all my documents. I just don't know who to contact or how to start the process.

Additionally could my parents get in to trouble? Could they be prosecuted for lying about my country and city of birth? If i change my place of birth then i really don't want my parents getting in any trouble with the law. So this is one thing that i am also worried may happen.

If you know any information regarding this and the laws and legality around it that would be fantastic. Many thanks in advance for any help.
 


quincy

Senior Member
Where are you currently living?

FreeAdvice addresses U.S. law questions and U.S. legal concerns only.
 

user0123456789

New member
Sorry about that. I hadn't realised that this was for USA law only. A friend who has been helping me found this forum and recommended i ask on it. Should of looked more carefully. My apologies.

I am also a citizen of Estonia and Germany (i have family from all over the place) so brexit isn't a problem for me! But it would still be nice to get Irish citizenship as i am legally entitled to it!
 
It will state your place of birth on your birth certificate and as far as officialdom is concerned that's where you were born. Looking at my British birth certificate it even shows the hospital I was born in.
I'm sure if your parents stood up and said "we lied" on such an important legal document, it would not end well for them.
 

not2cleverRed

Obvious Observer
Sorry about that. I hadn't realised that this was for USA law only. A friend who has been helping me found this forum and recommended i ask on it. Should of looked more carefully. My apologies.

I am also a citizen of Estonia and Germany (i have family from all over the place) so brexit isn't a problem for me! But it would still be nice to get Irish citizenship as i am legally entitled to it!

Then I take it that your quest is purely a sentimental one.

Get over it.
 

quincy

Senior Member
user0123456789 probably can find assistance in the UK if s/he wants to explore the matter.
 

FlyingRon

Senior Member
Ireland doesn't work like the US. You don't absolutely get Irish citizenship just because you were born there. It varies depending on just when you were born, but I suspect that unless you're really old (or less than 13), you don't qualify. You should definitely consult legal advice there.

(I, on the other hand, am eligible to be an Irish citizen by descent. Go figure, never been there).
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
Ireland doesn't work like the US. You don't absolutely get Irish citizenship just because you were born there. It varies depending on just when you were born, but I suspect that unless you're really old (or less than 13), you don't qualify. You should definitely consult legal advice there.

(I, on the other hand, am eligible to be an Irish citizen by descent. Go figure, never been there).
So if my Irish Grandmother is from County Cork...I am qualified for citizenship?
 

user0123456789

New member
Thanks for the further replies. I have made some enquiries on some British sites today so hopefully someone there may know more. It certainly sounds like it will be a difficult task as it is so difficult to prove. I have no evidence other than verbal evidence from my parents and midwife and a few of my parents other friends.

In regards to birthright citizenship the laws state that those born on the island of Ireland (ROI or NI) on or before 31/12/2004 are automatically entitled to Irish citizenship (regardless of whether or not there parents or grandparents are Irish citizens).But those born on or after 01/01/2005 are only entitled to Irish citizenship if their parents or grandparents are Irish citizens. So i believe i am definitely entitled to it.

They only got rid of birthright citizenship for those born on or after 01/01/2005.
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
Thanks for the further replies. I have made some enquiries on some British sites today so hopefully someone there may know more. It certainly sounds like it will be a difficult task as it is so difficult to prove. I have no evidence other than verbal evidence from my parents and midwife and a few of my parents other friends.

In regards to birthright citizenship the laws state that those born on the island of Ireland (ROI or NI) on or before 31/12/2004 are automatically entitled to Irish citizenship (regardless of whether or not there parents or grandparents are Irish citizens).But those born on or after 01/01/2005 are only entitled to Irish citizenship if their parents or grandparents are Irish citizens. So i believe i am definitely entitled to it.

They only got rid of birthright citizenship for those born on or after 01/01/2005.
Ahhh..per'aps I'll be rinnin' into ye when I get ta the ol' sod...( bad Irish accent):LOL:
 

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