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mjpull

Member
What is the name of your state? Texas

I am the NCP. I will be going through a child support review in a couple of weeks. what should I expect in the proceddings?
In May, I received a notice in the mail from the OAG. It stated my case was reviewed and that I am paying enough based on current wage information. Last friday I received another notice from them stating they are going to review. Can anyone tell me what is going on? I get one notice saying I am paying enough, then 2-3 months later I get another one saying I will be reviewed...
Will Texas take into consideration that I am supporting another child from my new wife?
Is a lawyer warranted for a review?

Thanks
MJ
 


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NoDiggety

Guest
mjpull said:
What is the name of your state? Texas

I am the NCP. I will be going through a child support review in a couple of weeks. what should I expect in the proceddings?
In May, I received a notice in the mail from the OAG. It stated my case was reviewed and that I am paying enough based on current wage information. Last friday I received another notice from them stating they are going to review. Can anyone tell me what is going on? I get one notice saying I am paying enough, then 2-3 months later I get another one saying I will be reviewed...
Will Texas take into consideration that I am supporting another child from my new wife?
Is a lawyer warranted for a review?

Thanks
MJ
A guess could be the ex didn't agree with the decision and appealed it. What exactly did your notice say? Are you being asked to submit tax/paystub information? Did you call and find out firsthand? The latter is your best bet.
 

mjpull

Member
I will have to find the notice. I think my wife has it. but yes, I have to bring paystubs, tax records, W-2's, the whole works. I do have a consult with a lawyer but only 4 days ahead of the hearing. I have been told by many people that she is one of the best in town, a real bulldog.
I called them and they said that based on current wages info, they are reviewing and will have a negotiation on 8-25. I flat out asked them if it was my ex wife and they said they could not confirm, The state is the one starting it.
 

workinmom

Junior Member
The OAG sends a form to your place of employment requesting current payroll info, then compare that with what they already had.

OAG cannot say anything to you about your ex's communications with them and vice versa.

Good Luck
 
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NoDiggety

Guest
workinmom said:
The OAG sends a form to your place of employment requesting current payroll info, then compare that with what they already had.
Bzzt. :rolleyes:
 

ceara19

Senior Member
mjpull said:
Anyone tell me what to expect in the upcoming hearing?

Not much of anything at this point. It's not an actual "hearing". You will be meeting with an OAG caseworker (most likely no attorney will be around unless you or the ex bring one) either at their office or in a conference room at the courthouse. They'll ask a bunch of questions, you'll answer, she'll answer and they will TRY to get you to agree to a number that they randomly pull out of their ass because not only do they have not even the most basic of legal knowledge, but I have yet to meet on single caseworker that has mastered the use of a calculator.

Whatever you do, DON'T agree to anything without taking it home and running the numbers your self. One of these days I'm going to put together a guide for dealing with the Texas OAG and sell it on eBay.
 

mjpull

Member
ceara19 said:
Not much of anything at this point. It's not an actual "hearing". You will be meeting with an OAG caseworker (most likely no attorney will be around unless you or the ex bring one) either at their office or in a conference room at the courthouse. They'll ask a bunch of questions, you'll answer, she'll answer and they will TRY to get you to agree to a number that they randomly pull out of their ass because not only do they have not even the most basic of legal knowledge, but I have yet to meet on single caseworker that has mastered the use of a calculator.

Whatever you do, DON'T agree to anything without taking it home and running the numbers your self. One of these days I'm going to put together a guide for dealing with the Texas OAG and sell it on eBay.


Thanks... very much appreciated on what to expect.
I knew the 3 year review was coming up, but was expecting it next year, especially since I recieved the one notice in May, saying what I was paying is sufficient. When I recieved the next notice of the actual review, just a couple of months later, I was a little floored.

So I can just tell them, that I would like to review the info myself, before I make a decision on whether to accept it, or go to court over it? About the only thing I have to "negotiate" with is a tax exemption. I am not trying to get out of it, because I am current, but paying 1100 per month, I think is plenty, and I do have my household to keep up with.

Will they take into consideration of the "gift" money I spend on them over and above the child support? I know my ex won't. she doesn't care whatsoever. she just wants what she thinks is hers...
 

workinmom

Junior Member
NoDiggety said:

My humblest apologies, I worked in a payroll department in TX for 10 yrs and had filled out the forms the OAG sends many times. I was just passing along what I had personal experience with.

Workinmom
 

ceara19

Senior Member
mjpull said:
Thanks... very much appreciated on what to expect.
I knew the 3 year review was coming up, but was expecting it next year, especially since I recieved the one notice in May, saying what I was paying is sufficient. When I recieved the next notice of the actual review, just a couple of months later, I was a little floored.
As Diggety pointed out, this is probably related to the earlier review. Most likely mom refused to sign the agreement sent to her.

So I can just tell them, that I would like to review the info myself, before I make a decision on whether to accept it, or go to court over it?
If you don't agree with the numbers, DON'T SIGN ANYTHING. The good thing about Texas being a one income state where child support is concerned is that you can figure out EXACTLY what you should be paying before going into court without knowing the other parties income.

1. First, find your TOTAL monthly income, before ANY deductions are made, by adding together your gross income from your last 3 tax returns and dividing by 36.

2. Then find the corresponding number on THIS chart, in the Monthly Gross Wages column.

3. With a ruler or other straight edge, line up your Monthly Gross Wage with the matching NET Monthly Income.

4. Take your Net Monthly income, according to the chart, and SUBTRACT what you pay for medical/dental insurance for the child/ren that are a party to the child support order ONLY. You can get this info from your employer.

5. Repeat, starting with step 1 until you get the same result 3 times in a row.

THAT is the number that should be used to set child support. Once you have this number you can figure out what you should be paying in child support. Child support is 20% for 1 child with an additional 5% for each ADDITIONAL CHILD IN THE SAME ORDER. You also receive a 2.5% CREDIT for any minor children that you have that are NOT a party to the court order.

About the only thing I have to "negotiate" with is a tax exemption. I am not trying to get out of it, because I am current, but paying 1100 per month, I think is plenty, and I do have my household to keep up with.
There is no reason to negotiate. If you follow the directions correctly, you can figure up exactly what you should be paying in child support. Technically, support should not be modified unless the difference between the current amount and the new amount is more than 20% or $100 per month, but that is not something to argue over.

If the OAG's number doesn't match YOUR number, and you are POSITIVE that you figured support correctly, tell them, "No thank you" and hand them the "agreement" back. Remember in 4th grade when your teacher would always tell you to "Show your work" and how you thought that it was kind of pointless to write it all out if you already KNEW the answer? Well, THIS is where you will actually make use of that knowledge.

The OAG will ask why you don't agree and you can "Show them your work" and explain how you came up with your number. It always helps to print out the current tax chart from the OAG website and bring it with you. They never seem to have a copy of the CURRENT chart with them when figuring support.
Will they take into consideration of the "gift" money I spend on them over and above the child support? I know my ex won't. she doesn't care whatsoever. she just wants what she thinks is hers...
No, anything above the court order is a "gift".
 

mjpull

Member
this years income?

Ceara
THANK YOU!! for taking the time to spell it out for me. I really do appreciate it.

Will they take into consideration this years income? I just got a promotion and a good raise with it. If it is just the past 3 years, that would be 2003, 2004, 2005, correct?

thanks again...
 

ceara19

Senior Member
mjpull said:
Ceara
THANK YOU!! for taking the time to spell it out for me. I really do appreciate it.

Will they take into consideration this years income? I just got a promotion and a good raise with it. If it is just the past 3 years, that would be 2003, 2004, 2005, correct?

thanks again...

If your raise is not reflected on your 2005 returns, you should use your PROJECTED 2006 income and have the information AVAILABLE to give to the OAG. Don't give them any more information then what they ASK for, unless it helps YOUR case. For example, if they only ask for your last 3 pay stubs and you worked 80 hours of overtime each pay period and overtime is NOT a normal part of your income, of course you are going to want to give them more information that will better represent your true income. But if they only ask for the 2003-2005 returns, leave it at that.
 

mjpull

Member
new salary

ceara19 said:
If your raise is not reflected on your 2005 returns, you should use your PROJECTED 2006 income and have the information AVAILABLE to give to the OAG. Don't give them any more information then what they ASK for, unless it helps YOUR case. For example, if they only ask for your last 3 pay stubs and you worked 80 hours of overtime each pay period and overtime is NOT a normal part of your income, of course you are going to want to give them more information that will better represent your true income. But if they only ask for the 2003-2005 returns, leave it at that.


They did ask me to bring current paysubs. I am paid salary, not by the hour, so it is the same all the time. Would they forego 2003 and use projected 2006?
 

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