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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Pennsylania

Hello all.

I am currently involved in resolving custody of my 2 year old son. He lives with me. We do not have an agreement yet, but his father has visitation from Thursday morning until Friday evening. Christmas is on a Sunday.

My ex has a PFA on me, so we communicate through his mother. I was expecting to hear from her by email in regards to my ex seeing my son for Christmas, but I hadn't heard anything. I emailed grandma 2 days ago, and I haven't heard anything in response.

Should I make another effort? I was concerned that my ex's intention was to tell the court that I didn't allow him to see our son on Christmas, so that's why I emailed. Have I done enough?
 


Antigone*

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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Pennsylania

Hello all.

I am currently involved in resolving custody of my 2 year old son. He lives with me. We do not have an agreement yet, but his father has visitation from Thursday morning until Friday evening. Christmas is on a Sunday.

My ex has a PFA on me, so we communicate through his mother. I was expecting to hear from her by email in regards to my ex seeing my son for Christmas, but I hadn't heard anything. I emailed grandma 2 days ago, and I haven't heard anything in response.

Should I make another effort? I was concerned that my ex's intention was to tell the court that I didn't allow him to see our son on Christmas, so that's why I emailed. Have I done enough?

If you don't have an agreement and custody is not resolved, then mom says when and where until otherwise ordered by the court.;)
 

mistoffolees

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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Pennsylania

Hello all.

I am currently involved in resolving custody of my 2 year old son. He lives with me. We do not have an agreement yet, but his father has visitation from Thursday morning until Friday evening. Christmas is on a Sunday.

My ex has a PFA on me, so we communicate through his mother. I was expecting to hear from her by email in regards to my ex seeing my son for Christmas, but I hadn't heard anything. I emailed grandma 2 days ago, and I haven't heard anything in response.

Should I make another effort? I was concerned that my ex's intention was to tell the court that I didn't allow him to see our son on Christmas, so that's why I emailed. Have I done enough?

It's not up to you to facilitate his visitation. Legally, you've done more than you're required to do. However, I can understand your concerns.

I would send the email via one of the trackable services (maybe someone can provide the links again since I didn't save them). Then you'll have proof not only that you sent them but that grandma opened them. Even though you don't have a lot of risk, that would reduce it even further.
 

tuffbrk

Senior Member
It's not up to you to facilitate his visitation. Legally, you've done more than you're required to do. However, I can understand your concerns.

I would send the email via one of the trackable services (maybe someone can provide the links again since I didn't save them). Then you'll have proof not only that you sent them but that grandma opened them. Even though you don't have a lot of risk, that would reduce it even further.

Good luck to you in court! In the meantime, I'm impressed that you are doing your best to "do the right thing." It's heartwarming.

I believe it was OG who recommended these 2 services -

Ourfamilywizard.com
Sharekids.com

Happy holidays!
 

mistoffolees

Senior Member
Good luck to you in court! In the meantime, I'm impressed that you are doing your best to "do the right thing." It's heartwarming.

I believe it was OG who recommended these 2 services -

Ourfamilywizard.com
Sharekids.com

Happy holidays!

Thanks. Those are great sites, but not what I was thinking of (those sites require a subscription and might be more helpful for the long run than for now).

I googled it. What I was thinking of was getnotify:
Best Free Email Tracking Service - Get Your Sent Email Read Notification.
 

gam

Senior Member
This is the one that Tinkerbelle(can't remember her exact screen name, sorry) has posted.

It's readnotify.com. It costs $20.00 to track all emails that are sent.
 
Well, grandma responded. She said that he wants to see him on Christmas, but he won't pick our son up from my parent's house, he wants my family to drop our son off at his house or have them meet him somewhere close to his house.
My parents live 10.2 miles from his house.

This is typical of him,he has picked our son up from me exactly twice in my son's life. I have always taken my son to him, or we use daycare as the trade-off spot.

I am no longer going to cater to him.

Thanks for the responses. I will definitely check out those services you suggested, that sounds very useful.
 

stealth2

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Well, grandma responded. She said that he wants to see him on Christmas, but he won't pick our son up from my parent's house, he wants my family to drop our son off at his house or have them meet him somewhere close to his house.
My parents live 10.2 miles from his house.

O.M.G. A WHOLE TEN miles?!?!?! That is totes unreasonable!

Seriously - you're going to be THAT petty? <spit>
 

Proserpina

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Come on Mom - 10 miles for a Christmas visit?

T'is the season of goodwill and all that. You can suck it up one more time, surely?
 
Why should I drive my son to him, or have someone in my family drive my son to him, when my ex has a vehicle? I don't get it. That was my point, its 10.2 miles. It's not far. There's no good reason why he can't pick him up. Each parent picks up when they get the child. I'll have to get him from where ever my ex leaves him for me to pick up. I just want my kid back, why doesn't he? Sure he probably doesn't like my family, or is just too ashamed to want to face them, but his family isn't too fond of me, and if it weren't for the ridiculous PFA he has against me, we wouldn't have to deal with each other's families.

I will have to think about it. I just can't believe he's refusing to pick him up at my parents'.
 
Why should I drive my son to him, or have someone in my family drive my son to him, when my ex has a vehicle? I don't get it. That was my point, its 10.2 miles. It's not far. There's no good reason why he can't pick him up. Each parent picks up when they get the child. I'll have to get him from where ever my ex leaves him for me to pick up. I just want my kid back, why doesn't he? Sure he probably doesn't like my family, or is just too ashamed to want to face them, but his family isn't too fond of me, and if it weren't for the ridiculous PFA he has against me, we wouldn't have to deal with each other's families.

I will have to think about it. I just can't believe he's refusing to pick him up at my parents'.

And I can't believe that you would hurt your son by not allowing him to spend time with his daddy on Christmas just because neither one of you can be an adult and drive a measly 10 miles. Really? :rolleyes:
 

Proserpina

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And I can't believe that you would hurt your son by not allowing him to spend time with his daddy on Christmas just because neither one of you can be an adult and drive a measly 10 miles. Really? :rolleyes:



Sigh. Really.

:(


I fully understand that without a court order, Mom doesn't have to allow ANY visitation. But seriously? It's. Frikkin. Christmas.

Be the bigger person. Make the damn drive. Y'know?
 
Mom, you are going to have another 16 years (at least) of sharing your son with his dad and having to go one extra stop for your son's sake. Besides your pride and sense of control, what will driving your son to Dad really hurt?
 

Ohiogal

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Well, grandma responded. She said that he wants to see him on Christmas, but he won't pick our son up from my parent's house, he wants my family to drop our son off at his house or have them meet him somewhere close to his house.
My parents live 10.2 miles from his house.

This is typical of him,he has picked our son up from me exactly twice in my son's life. I have always taken my son to him, or we use daycare as the trade-off spot.

I am no longer going to cater to him.

Thanks for the responses. I will definitely check out those services you suggested, that sounds very useful.

GROW UP. Your two year should not be the most mature of the bunch. Which apparently he is at this juncture.

Is it typical of you to act so like a toddler having a temper tantrum and being petty and pathetic? And quite frankly if he has a PFA against you that means the court found enough information to state you were violent towards him. So you definitely need to mature quite a bit.
 
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