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Contempt versus Custodial Interference

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TinkerBelleLuvr

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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Michigan/ Florida

Yes, it's happened again. Daddy dearest has not returned the child.

This is what I found concerning Custodial Interference:
THE MICHIGAN PENAL CODE (EXCERPT)
Act 328 of 1931


750.350a Taking or retaining child by adoptive or natural parent; intent; violation as felony; penalty; restitution for financial expense; effect of pleading or being found guilty; probation; discharge and dismissal; nonpublic record; defense.
Sec. 350a.

(1) An adoptive or natural parent of a child shall not take that child, or retain that child for more than 24 hours, with the intent to detain or conceal the child from any other parent or legal guardian of the child who has custody or parenting time rights pursuant to a lawful court order at the time of the taking or retention, or from the person or persons who have adopted the child, or from any other person having lawful charge of the child at the time of the taking or retention.

(2) A parent who violates subsection (1) is guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment for not more than 1 year and 1 day, or a fine of not more than $2,000.00, or both.

(3) A parent who violates this section, upon conviction, in addition to any other punishment, may be ordered to make restitution to the other parent, legal guardian, the person or persons who have adopted the child, or any other person having lawful charge of the child for any financial expense incurred as a result of attempting to locate and having the child returned.

(4) When a parent who has not been convicted previously of a violation of section 349, 350, or this section, or under any statute of the United States or of any state related to kidnapping, pleads guilty to, or is found guilty of, a violation of this section, the court, without entering a judgment of guilt and with the consent of the accused parent, may defer further proceedings and place the accused parent on probation with lawful terms and conditions. The terms and conditions of probation may include participation in a drug treatment court under chapter 10A of the revised judicature act of 1961, 1961 PA 236, MCL 600.1060 to 600.1082. Upon a violation of a term or condition of probation, the court may enter an adjudication of guilt and proceed as otherwise provided. Upon fulfillment of the terms and conditions of probation, the court shall discharge from probation and dismiss the proceedings against the parent. Discharge and dismissal under this subsection shall be without adjudication of guilt and is not a conviction for purposes of disqualifications or disabilities imposed by law upon conviction of a crime, including any additional penalties imposed for second or subsequent convictions. The department of state police shall retain a nonpublic record of an arrest and discharge and dismissal under this section. This record shall be furnished to either or both of the following:

(a) To a court or police agency upon request for the purpose of showing that a defendant in a criminal action has already availed himself or herself of this subsection.

(b) To a court, police agency, or prosecutor upon request for the purpose of determining whether the defendant in a criminal action is eligible for discharge and dismissal of proceedings by a drug treatment court under section 1076(4) of the revised judicature act of 1961, 1961 PA 236, MCL 600.1076.

(5) It is a complete defense under this section if a parent proves that his or her actions were taken for the purpose of protecting the child from an immediate and actual threat of physical or mental harm, abuse, or neglect.
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(2xczqkrsimgjwu55ombqoa45))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=mcl-750-350a

What I can't find is when does it go from just contempt of a court order to return a child to criminal.
 


LdiJ

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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Michigan/ Florida

Yes, it's happened again. Daddy dearest has not returned the child.

This is what I found concerning Custodial Interference:
Michigan Legislature - Section 750.350a

What I can't find is when does it go from just contempt of a court order to return a child to criminal.

Is he out of his mind?

I honestly don't know the answer to your question, however I could certainly see your judge turning it into criminal contempt. Are you on your way to MI yet?
 

TinkerBelleLuvr

Senior Member
Is he out of his mind?

I honestly don't know the answer to your question, however I could certainly see your judge turning it into criminal contempt. Are you on your way to MI yet?
There were scheduled vacations/ conferences to deal with. I could have gone in front of a different judge this week, but it was NOT in the best interest of my case. I'm working the magic right now with attorney and FOC.

I'm trying to figure out what big guns I can pull out right now. I'm getting really good at getting case law. What I haven't figure out is when it is decided that it is criminal. THAT is the question.
 

LdiJ

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There were scheduled vacations/ conferences to deal with. I could have gone in front of a different judge this week, but it was NOT in the best interest of my case. I'm working the magic right now with attorney and FOC.

I'm trying to figure out what big guns I can pull out right now. I'm getting really good at getting case law. What I haven't figure out is when it is decided that it is criminal. THAT is the question.

The key would be convincing the police to make an arrest and the DA to prosecute the case. That would mean getting the police on board. I have never heard of any specific defined point in MI when it becomes custodial interference. That doesn't mean that there isn't one, but I have never seen it defined that closely.
 

TinkerBelleLuvr

Senior Member
The key would be convincing the police to make an arrest and the DA to prosecute the case. That would mean getting the police on board. I have never heard of any specific defined point in MI when it becomes custodial interference. That doesn't mean that there isn't one, but I have never seen it defined that closely.
What it sounds like then is after a second contempt finding is done. THAT would be evidence that bad behavior exists.
 

BL

Senior Member
[U]http://www.missingkids.com/en_US/documents/CriminalCustodialInterference.pdf[/U]

You basically cited the same statute .

You know , you could always talk to missing children's.

There is a missing children's Office right next to where I live and I see Law Enforcement go there - presumably for training .

AS LD said the key is convince law enforcement and the DA. to get on board .

That might not happen if he is not concealing the child's whereabouts even though he may be detaining the child .
 

TinkerBelleLuvr

Senior Member
Child isn't "missing", just detained. He's convinced her that SHE can decide where she should be. Should be a fun contempt hearing since he put that little piece of information in WRITING.
 

BL

Senior Member
Child isn't "missing", just detained. He's convinced her that SHE can decide where she should be. Should be a fun contempt hearing since he put that little piece of information in WRITING.

I know the child isn't missing .

Missing children's has a wealth of information on custodial interference .


I contacted them myself ( only mine were being concealed ) .

I obtained my State's pamphlet on Child abduction through the State's clearinghouse .

It referenced a wealth of information .
 

TinkerBelleLuvr

Senior Member
That was an interesting call to the prosecuting attorney's office - due to age and rebellion, they would most likely not follow through with it. He alluded to the fact that I should have pursued it LAST time.
 
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