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jyoung

Member
What is the name of your state? Any dads in Florida want to get organized like this?:

SAN FRANCISCO, CA - Livebeat Dads in concert with Madmen United and other Fathers Rights Organizations, along with 500 to 1000 disenfranchised Fathers will serve upon the Superior Court of San Francisco a formal CONSTITUTIONAL CHALLENGE to the unjust Child Support and Custody Laws of the State of California.

We will also then hold a formal news conference, with selected speakers to inform the public of the plight of Fathers, and the reasons and exhibits as to why we are filing this formal legal challenge. It will be most informative.

For over 40 years now, our society has suffered the havoc of the radical third-wave Feminist revolution of the 1960's and 1970's. The result? It is now a widely known fact that there are millions of disenfranchised men, women and children, and the establishment of broken homes at an explosive rate, along with a major transfer-of-wealth program which is harvesting men and families for profit.

Clearly, government intrusion into the home under the guise that they are helping them, has been the greatest national disaster this nation has ever faced. Little do men know that they are suffering from a sustained battle fatigue, because they have been at war for the past 20 to 30 years. Men are the highest segment of society committing suicide at a rate never before seen in human history, to the tune of eleven thousand suicides per year. This is almost four times the death rate of the 911 World Trade Disasters...occurring unabated each and every year.

Men have been completely disenfranchised from their own home and family. This neo-feminist ideal allows any discontented woman to falsely accuse her mate and charge him with abuse to actively get rid of him and appropriate their children! Women can now throw the man out of his own home at will with the aid and consent of the state; they can disenfranchise him from his own paycheck; force him never to see his children again; demand "supervision" from feminist organizations clothed as "Child Protective Services" "Child Support" and "Friends of the Court". They can demand a life-long subsidy from him for the mere act of procreation. To the greatest degree, these acts of disenfranchisement are virtually never brought against women....for the greatest part they are unjustly suffered by men who in turn, have no redress of grievances for these contemptuous acts in any court of law.

Presently, this feminist indoctrinization of our society has established the United States as the greatest welfare population AND prison population on earth, directly due to feminism. Also, this systematic, unconstitutional and illegal system has placed more innocent men into prison than ever before seen in human history. It has totally perverted our court systems, to where they are now instruments of mass destruction in our society, with no rule of law within the courts. Fathers are not being allowed to file simple legal documents into the court. We are being denied the right to file and bring forth evidence. We cannot have witnesses. We can have no due process of law. It has become a shameless and well-known fact that these so-called "family courts" have become an insolent domestic enemy, working openly, and arrogantly in overt violation and in direct contradistinction to our own laws.

They do all this clothed in our children's "best interests."

Thereby, on the Friday before Father's Day, on June 14, 2002, at twelve o'clock noon, we are formally filing a CONSTITUTIONAL CHALLENGE against this perverse system of law. We encourage other men and fathers whom have suffered these same denigration's not only to join with us at this rally and formal News Conference on this date, but we encourage them to look at the Constitutional Challenge and JOIN IN WITH IT AND FILE A JOINDER WITH US, if they too have been damaged by this perverse and illegal system of the courts.

Please go to http://www.legalaidsociety.net to learn more about the Constitutional Challenge and what you can do, or call 925-363-5470.


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Roscleo

Guest
WoooooHOOOO

GO DADS!!
I want to say good luck to all of these dad's who have been treated so horribly by the courts! I will be watching for you guys on the news today.

LETS GET SOME LAWS CHANGED AND GET FATHERS SOME RIGHTS FOR A CHANGE!
 
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dogs

Guest
IT"S ABOUT TIME< FATHERS HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS TO THERE CHILDREN.
 
This is what us &quot;DADS&quot; need!

My story is all too familiar.

Mommy is stay at home mommy because dad makes alot of money.

Mommy makes "friends" with the unemployed neighbor renting down the street.

Neighbor rides his 10 speed over to visit lonely mommy.
(neighbor has NO license due to several D.U.I.'s)

Mommy starts creating arguments when daddy comes home.
Mommy begins leaving and coming back at 5:00 am
Daddy takes care of his 2 young sons.

Daddy tries to talk to mommy about what his happening?
Mommy continues leaving when daddy comes home saying she needs time alone away from the kids.

Daddy finds pictures of mommy and neighbor "more than friends"
Daddy confronts mommy.
Mommy says "She is tired of changing diapers." "Tired af doing nothing for herself." "Wants to go to school to be a Vet."
Mommy leaves for 4 days and never calls daddy or kids.

Daddy files for divorce!

Christmas Eve mommy takes kids to daycare. Mommy calls daddy and says "They're your responsibility and I'm going camping with my boyfriend. You go get the kids."

Daddy does. No presents or phone call from mommy.

2 months pass mommy begins not returning kids.
Daddy pays all expenses for sons.
Private school for oldest. Daycare for both. Etc.

Mommy changes daycare and hides kids.
The police nor daddys lawyer can do anything until the divorce hearing.

Mommy gets a restraining because she fears physical abuse.
Although mommy states NO abuse ever in the R/O
3 months daddy gets No contact. Not even phone

The divorce hearing!!
Judge awards mommy the house, land, and marital property.
Daddy gets $50,000 in debts.
"Tell him what hes won johnny!" lol

Judge SCOLDS mommy dearest for denying contact!
Judge orders mommy dearest to turn over sons within 2 hours!
Mommy does.

Daddy spoils sons. New clothes, toys $175 at Wal Mart
Daddy buys Mcdonalds and spends all day playing with sons at the pool.

Daddy returns sons and mommy wants to argue.
Daddy ignores and drives away.
Daddy doesn't know it, but that is the last time daddy will ever see sons.

Daddy plans trip to see sons and mommy confirms.
Mommy denied sons birthday telling daddy it is not his weekend and 1 hour could not be squeezed in.

Daddy arrives from out of state on scheduled day and mommy has left the state.
Mommy posted a note on her door saying she had no notice.

Daddy gives notice again through mommy attorney.
Mommys attorney says mommy needs another car or daddy wont see the kids?

Daddy furious gives in. Daddys finally going to see his sons.

Daddy goes to the exchange place.
No mommy again.

Daddy finds out he's been accused of molesting his oldest son and all parental rights have been suspended.

Mommy now files a NO CONTACT order and an increase in support.
Daddy pays $1,000 a month and no contact, phone, etc.
Mommys boyfriend has a violent history of abuse and lives in the house withe daddys sons.

Mommys boyfriend tried to kill his wife with their sons present.
Mommy signs house and land over to boyfriend for $1

Daddy sends a birthday gift to son. Mommy files contempt charges against daddy for gift. Daddy facing jailtime and still No contact.


Believe it or not that is a short summary of me.

I currently am waiting for a hearing on July 9th 2002
For me their will be NO Fathers Day.
This is my 3rd Fathers Day alone.

I understand completely how dads can loose hope.
I will NEVER give up on Preston and Dalton.

I focus myself on my sons and helping others.
http://help4dads.com
 
Bumped for Fathers Day Respect

According to my fathers groups, here was the outcome for anyone interested.

Us dads need more. We need bigger plans.
Maybe we could raise enough funds among us to buy advertising just like a political campaign.


Dear People,

Yesterday, Friday June 14, 2002, approximately 50 to 70 people gathered
in support of a formal Constitutional Challenge that was filed in San
Francisco Superior Court.
The days' events were opened by a street play, which parodied the
present court system. Then, several speakers took the podium who
moved the crowd with their palpable, salient; and often powerful stories
which displayed the outright collapse and corruption of the modern court
systems. Approximately 20 individuals joined the suit by way of a
legal process called INTERVENTION and signed right then and there (using
CCP $ 387 as the cited authority). Amazingly, even after the
event, we still have various persons still filing their interventions
with the court in order to join suit with this Constitutional Challenge.


Other speakers again showed the panorama of problems fathers face:
kidnapping of their children; outrageous child support awards against
the father; false abuse allegations to disenfranchise men; abandonment
by the legal system; imprisonment for a debt; and a host of other
problems that these courts are specifically implementing against
fatherhood.



Sadly, even though more than 200 media groups were contacted, both by
mail and by phone as well as personal visits, no media showed up to this
event to report it. Again, this is in direct accordance with the
silent treatise, which is where the media have joined to uphold the
government-media complex, and intentionally keep the mass public
ignorant of the real issues, and real news which is occurring in our
society. The public doesn't know about the plight of fatherhood,
because the media doesn't want the public to be informed nor educated
upon this subject. The media are intentionally protecting the courts
(and their open criminality), and ignoring real news, at the expense of
certain groups--such as fathers groups who are now criminally enslaved
by this system making money off of them by government "programs".


Many good people expended huge amounts of time and monies putting on
this endeavor. Steve Light and Richard Pitchers, as well as Terence
Moore are to be most noted and commended. Fathers came from around
the state in which to participate in this endeavor. And a coalition
of Fathers' Rights groups participated.

We will push this Constitutional Challenge up the courts. Please stay tuned.

Thank you for your support.
Sincerely,
Robert Lindsay; Cheney Jr.
 
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lajuan

Guest
Maybe some of you guys could hold classes and teach some of these other father how to be true and caring father. I am glad to see their are father who will fight for their rights and make their children happy.
 
I

Illinois Dad

Guest
raddadthomas...

I am interested in your story, and I don't want you to think I am being critical. Would circumstances for you have been different if you had acted sooner and responded differently? As soon as you realized what she was up to, you could have filed an order for emergency temporary custody pending the divorce trial. At the very least you could have gotten a temporary visitation schedule put in place and if she withheld the kids she would have been in contempt of a court order. My wife moved out of our home during the school year and as summer vacation approached she threatened to remove the kids from the day camp I had them enrolled in and move them out of the home. I had already set a hearing date to obtain temporary custody, temporary support, and exclusive possession of the marital residence. Her threat was enough to get a TRO maintaining the status quo regarding the kids living arrangements and preventing her from removing them from day camp without my permission.

I guess the lesson for other dads out there is to be proactive. The easiest thing is to do nothing, but you have to quickly become an expert in the facts of your case and the laws of your state. If you are in this kind of adversarial situation, hire the best lawyer you can and forget about doing things amicably. You have to separate yourself emotionally and look at what is happening from a purely intellectual point of view. This is extremely difficult but if you can do it you will give yourself a huge advantage by being able to see things clearly. Be honest with yourself about what you want and why you want it...don't fight to get your kids because it will hurt your soon to be ex. Fight for them if, and only if, it is what is truly best for them. If you don't win custody, fight hard for a visitation schedule that allows you to be involved in your kids lives as much as possible. Children need two parents who love them, even if they don't love each other. Pay your child support, always and on time. This is your responsibility and it will make life better for your kids. It will also keep peace with your ex and may prevent her from talking badly about you in front of your kids.

If you do win custody, make sure the kids know that their mother loves them. Never speak badly about her to them. Never air your dirty laundry in front of them. Make the kids available for visitation when you are supposed to and sometimes even when you don't have to. Mom wants an extra evening with them once in a while? Let her have it. She wants to keep them an extra day on one of her summer weekends when they don't have anything planned for the next day? Let her keep them. The lessons that this teaches your kids are invaluable. It shows them that you truly are interested in what is best for them...and that is a healthy, loving relationship with both parents.

Let's hope we can all act with the sole purpose of what is best for our kids...if we do, everyone wins. Good luck to all.
 
Hindsight

Hi Illinois Dad,

If I could go back, I would have done many things different.

Thanks for the kind words and the interest in my story.

16 days left until I'm reunited with my sons.

I love my sons so much, I would never cut their contact off from their mommy, even after what has been done to me.

raddadthomas
 

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