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laboroflove11

Junior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Texas

I had a hearing which went against me without any factual evidence, and no material witnesses. I found in texas law through a previous post that I could petition for a De Novo hearing, which I did and I was granted the hearing.

I have a couple of questions.

1. The judge that the case was referred back to signed the order for a new hearing on a thursday, is there any reason why the clerk would wait 6 days to mail it? The hearing is now one week away and I have some witnesses to subpoena, and records to have released by subpoena. The time before the hearing is not sufficient to have the subpoenas be served.

2. Could I bring this matter back to the court for a continuance with this limited time, and I mention also here that by the protective order in place I can't communicate with the other party, and she doesn't have an attorney.

I feel that the lack of a timely mailing of the new hearing is adverse and does not show good faith being excercised in the matter of Justice being served. I had called the clerk's office late on the date the order for a new hearing was scheduled, and the conversation I had with the clerk was wishy washy at best. He recognized my name immediately, and then told me "a new hearing will be scheduled, as soon as the judge finishes the review. I called on the morning that the judge signed the order for a new hearing. I didn't receive any mail so on the fifth day I called the clerk again and he gave me the date and time and stated the notices would be mailed promptly, and in fact they were mailed the following day.

Could I question the clerk about when they mailed the notice to the other party? If there is a big difference in the mailing of the notice couldn't that be grounds to show the judge showed partiality?

As for the matters in the case, the associate judge who heard this case before accepted that the applicant was stating the truth. I have some major evidence that can refute that she is truthful. I am not sure I would want to bring it up in court, but I would think if she knew I knew and had evidence to prove the deceptions she had practiced she may be inclined to withdraw the suit. Furthermore her main witness, not really a witness to anything other than the applicants claims, hysterical, as they are, is a criminal who can be proven to be in violation of 2 serious federal offenses, and with the subpoenas for the proper witnesses, one of whom is the applicants child, old enough to testify, I believe the court would have no choice but disqualify the witness. On the day prior to the filing for the temporary order, I held a conversation, initiated by the primary witness, that was reassuring, and actually contained the statement "everything will be ok" and moments later after receiving her call she called the police department to report that I was harassing her by phone, and continued to make notification over the next few weeks, finally threatening to have a restraining order place to silence me. The police were not able to verify that I posed any threat, simply because none was ever given.

My hope is to package all I have discovered, including the knowledge of the crimes of both my wife and primary witness, and have them see the futility in their attempt to smear my name and good character. The attorney I had retained has since reviewed all the materials and has asked to withdraw on the reasoning that my case doesn't need her as a practitioner, any judge could assess the truth based on the facts which will be presented.
 
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davidmcbeth3

Senior Member
File a motion for extension of the hearing date ... serve the opposing party...you'll still have to go to your next hearing date, just to be sure its not heard.
 

Tex78704

Member
The attorney I had retained has since reviewed all the materials and has asked to withdraw on the reasoning that my case doesn't need her as a practitioner, any judge could assess the truth based on the facts which will be presented.
Sorry, but this is just not believable.

Much more likely is she simply does not wish to represent you for reasons other than "you don't need an attorney", which may either be money, the merits of your case, or whatever. Once a pro se has filed pleadings and motions on their own, not very many attorney's are willing to take over a botched up case, and for many reasons would rather just avoid it. Which appears to be what might have happened here. That's a peril of going pro se, since many attorneys feel if a pro se is big enough to start handling their own case, they are surely big enough to finish it on their own.

You have not shown you have enough knowlege of rules of procedure for any attorney to recommend you are better off managing a case such as this on your own. You should put a lid on any accusations of bias against the associate judge at your de Novo hearing, or you may end up shooting yourself in the foot.

While it is entirely possible you may prevail anyway, your odds are much less than it would have been with an attorney. But apparently that is a risk you are willing to bear.

Once you filed your request for a rehearing on your case, you should have began preparing to hit the ground running as soon as you knew your hearing date. In this case you would have been able to start serving subpoena's yesterday, in plenty of time. You do still have time, so lack of time to prepare will not likely be adequate justification for a continuance.

While you can certainly file a motion for continuance, you need to be prepared for the contingency that you will NOT be granted a continuance. In which case you will need to be fully prepared to have your witnesses present and your case heard on Thursday.

Link to Texas Rules of Civil Procedure (note Rule 176 on Subpoena's)
[B]http://www.supreme.courts.state.tx.us/rules/trcp/rcp_all.pdf[/B]
 
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laboroflove11

Junior Member
an echo

of the thoughts I had regarding the non-representation. I have been working on the subpoenas, and will present them monday morning the hearing is Friday. I believe at least if these are in place as well as a motion for continuance I have a chance of being allowed a continuance. As for prejudice by the associate justice, I didn't state there was any prejudice, it was the judge who referred the case who signed the order for the new hearing I am just wondering if they mailed the notice of the new hearing to the opposing party in advance of sending my notice seems a long delay to send a notice on a case that would be heard in less than 2 weeks.
 

Tex78704

Member
... have been working on the subpoenas, and will present them monday morning the hearing is Friday. I believe at least if these are in place as well as a motion for continuance I have a chance of being allowed a continuance...
You had, and still have, plenty of time to serve subpoena's. You need be fully prepared for the judge to deny your motion, and expect you to be ready to argue your case on Friday.
 

laboroflove11

Junior Member
subpoenas ready

with the exception of one, and I don't know if I can ask. The witness lived with my wife as a tenant for 7 months while we were separated. She is not a legal US resident and I do not want to put her in any jeopardy, yet her testimony is going to verify the character issues and could essentially state that my wife is not trustworthy and has committed fraud for her own personal gain.
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
with the exception of one, and I don't know if I can ask. The witness lived with my wife as a tenant for 7 months while we were separated. She is not a legal US resident and I do not want to put her in any jeopardy, yet her testimony is going to verify the character issues and could essentially state that my wife is not trustworthy and has committed fraud for her own personal gain.



Credibility is certainly going to be an issue there.
 

Tex78704

Member
Credibility is certainly going to be an issue there.
Agreed.

Furthermore, laboroflove11, in the short time will have for your hearing, you need to focus "on your own credibility", rather than waste time bashing the character of your ex, which will invariably put you in a bad light. You won't come across as a very nice person, and one that has an ax to grind with your ex. And you really want to avoid making your alleged victim visibly upset with you in court. If these happen, you will probably lose.

You need to focus 100% on rebutting the allegations she made against you in her complaint that caused the associate judge to rule against you. You need to convince the judge her allegations lack merit, and that you are no danger to her whatsoever.

And your best opportunity to do that is to show up for court as presentable as you can, and be respectful to both the court AND YOUR EX. Then just maybe you will get the lower judges ruling changed. And that is a really big MAYBE, because even though this is a de novo hearing, the district judge will he taking a hard look at you, and may not be inclined to change the associate judge's ruling.
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
Agreed.

Furthermore, laboroflove11, in the short time will have for your hearing, you need to focus "on your own credibility", rather than waste time bashing the character of your ex, which will invariably put you in a bad light. You won't come across as a very nice person, and one that has an ax to grind with your ex. And you really want to avoid making your alleged victim visibly upset with you in court. If these happen, you will probably lose.

You need to focus 100% on rebutting the allegations she made against you in her complaint that caused the associate judge to rule against you. You need to convince the judge her allegations lack merit, and that you are no danger to her whatsoever.

And your best opportunity to do that is to show up for court as presentable as you can, and be respectful to both the court AND YOUR EX. Then just maybe you will get the lower judges ruling changed. And that is a really big MAYBE, because even though this is a de novo hearing, the district judge will he taking a hard look at you, and may not be inclined to change the associate judge's ruling.



I agree completely with everything here - but particularly with the underlined/bolded.
 

laboroflove11

Junior Member
my character

The witnesses I have can attest to my character, and I am subpoenaing my step-daughter, who can also attest to my character. My thoughts are this, a judge, even an associate justice has to have rather good command of their intellectual capacity. The entrance exams alone to Law School affirm the need for a high intelligence quotient.

In this matter, it is pretty clear, when examining the truthful events, that the applicant's motive and actions were solely as a means of ensuring her immigration status as being permanent and non-revokable. My motives?? I had none, I wanted to keep my marriage, I wanted to seek counselling together with her. At this point my only hope is to assure the court there is no threat to her and that I will not involve myself in anyway with anything that has to do with her in the future. I do not need a violence charge for something that I never did. It is clear she is willing to use lies and falsehoods to gain where she believes it is to her benefit. It stinks being a victim who is viewed as a perpetrator.

Thanks
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
You got married and then she lived with you for 2.5 years (per your previous threads) correct?

If this is true, there is a presumption that the marriage was legitimate and NOT fraudulent...and I think you would be making a grave error if you try to accuse her of that at this stage.


Also, don't expect the stepdaughter to testify in your favor.

Please clarify, also...did you sponsor her via the I-864?
 

st-kitts

Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Texas

I have just been to a hearing that moved a TRO to a PRO and the grounds for the action were only based on allegations that had no credible evidence to back the action, and no eyewitnesses.
The only thing which was really against me from what I could determine was that my wife and I had been overnight in County Jail for domestic assault. Now the prosecuting DA had the charges dropped if we met the requested counseling mandated us.
i move out a week later we sit to talk she claimed in the petition that during that time I threatened her, and assaulted her, which is not true. After our talk i did hug her, and said good bye,
I didn't contact her till the following monday by text stating "i hope you have a nice day" fifteen minutes later, she calls hysterical saying her car caught fire and I had to have sabotaged the car.
Let me state clearly and without hesitation, I love my wife, and if I am ever going to be whole with her, threatening and malicious actions are by no means the way to achieve that end.
That on 2/25…
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Texas

She insisted that we were not going to be able to live together. She is extremely jealous, suspicious and has no trust or faith in my ability to be faithful. and yet I had been completely faithful for the last 7 months, and my act of unfaithfulness was during a time where she would not talk to me, write or call and I was to her dead.
I have only once had to respond in a defensive way on actions that she took against me physically but I didn't hurt her it was a restraining with no intent of harm.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated tia
That on 2/27
. I simply told her to stop and to think about what she was doing as in the end it would probably hurt her more. She has a 13 year old daughter who really likes me and that created jealousy, and tension where this should have been a great aspect to the dynamic we enjoy it was tension.
I had signed up for plenty of fish, as she was "through" with me, and I talked to a few women over the next couple of days, then I closed the account. I was not violent or threatening to her. Her own actions were undoing her fine.
She may have sabotaged her own car to make the allegation against me.
And that on 2/27 as well…
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? texas

I have married an immigrant, and sponsor her, she lived with me for 2.5 years, just after the two year mark she separated out the accounts, started to move away from me in an emotional way. I was feeling like the third wheel, she, as a result of returning to the US, was able to be reunited with her daughter.
I met another woman who I really got along with great, never any drama or feelings of insincerity. I was going to leave my wife and after two weeks of being away from home I went back after some prompting from a friend who had been getting phone calls from her.
There was no "violence" no police intervention, no call to police, no medical no physical witnesses except for me and I didn't do anything in the alleged attack. I tried to hold her hand and I gave her a hug and she screamed in my face that she hated me and never wanted to see me again,
I got out of the car, waved and left. Monday morning 2 days later i get a phone call her car "caught on fire" well not exactly but now i am being blamed for this also.
All this said I am wondering if in light of the way that this has gone down and she trying to jump through the violent loop hole, how, as an american citizen who has no record and is sincerely a calm mild mannered person, get this woman what she deserves?

any suggestions would be appreciated
Then that on 3/1… What an interesting story. My oh my.
 
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Proserpina

Senior Member
Awesome job, St Kitts. Awesome. :)


Now that we have that all in one thread...

..honestly, I think OP is completely sunk.

And may well be on the hook to support wifey until she meets one of the conditions required to terminate his obligation under the I-864.

If she's smart, she can get support indefinitely.

It's also far too late for OP to claim marital fraud. Not happening. Not in THIS situation.
 

laboroflove11

Junior Member
the feedback

Yeah, ok so you have given your verdict but I believe I will come out victorious. My step-daughter does love me, and I have mail from the day before I was forced from the home that proves this. We, the daughter and I were going to be singing together in the church choir, mom is a jealous mom and did not like the fact that her daughter liked me. Esteem issues. but this is a legal forum. I want to be heard for the facts and no violence had nor would have occurred. Her daughter can testify to that.
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
Yeah, ok so you have given your verdict but I believe I will come out victorious. My step-daughter does love me, and I have mail from the day before I was forced from the home that proves this. We, the daughter and I were going to be singing together in the church choir, mom is a jealous mom and did not like the fact that her daughter liked me. Esteem issues. but this is a legal forum. I want to be heard for the facts and no violence had nor would have occurred. Her daughter can testify to that.


I'm not doubting that your stepdaughter loves you.

However, getting her to testify negatively against her own mother? I wouldn't be betting on that happening.
 

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