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gerard54

Member
What is the name of your state? FL

In a lease I executed with a property owner about an year ago, both the words “extend” and “renew” are used (without defining them in the lease), each at a different place in that lease. Now it is time to renew or extend that lease. In that lease, the provision for “extending” the lease is conflicting with the provision for “renewing” the lease. I am not requesting which provision survives. I request whether these two terms “extend” and “renew” are the same in all aspects in a lease ? (if this is clarified then I know which of the above two provisions will survive). Some FL judgments on these two terms are,

Sisco v. Rotenberg, 104 So.2d 365 (1958): we are in accord with the plaintiff in this case that if any distinction may have been made in any other court as to "renewal" or "extension" of a lease, this Court will not consider such distinction. As we agreed in Leibowitz v. Christo, Fla. 1954, 75 So.2d 692, the distinction between the meaning of those two words when used in leases is too refined and theoretical to be real, as a matter of law, in practical affairs. Further, we have noticed in our research on this case that courts frequently speak of the question herein involved in relation to a lease as extended or renewed, using both terms.

Woodard v. Hartley 596 So.2d 1114 (1992): Under Florida law, no distinction is drawn between a "renewal" and an "extension" of a lease. Sisco v. Rotenberg, 104 So.2d 365, 370 (Fla. 1958); Leibowitz v. Christo, 75 So.2d 692, 693 (Fla. 1954) (the "distinction between the meaning of words renewal and extension was `too refined and theoretical to be real, as a matter of law, in practical affairs.'") (citation omitted); Strano v. Reisinger Real Estate, Inc., 534 So.2d 1214, 1215 n. 2 (Fla.3d DCA 1988), review dismissed, 542 So.2d 1334 (Fla. 1989).


Google search reveals that the judgment Leibowitz v. Christo, about “extend” and “renew”, is referenced in a law book released most recently which makes me believe that the above law is still valid.
 
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quincy

Senior Member
The only difference might be in the length of the lease, with renewal generally for a full year and extensions by the month.

How exactly do these terms “conflict” in the original lease that you executed - and why is this a problem for you now?
 

gerard54

Member
At one place the language of the lease is (I am not providing the exact language here): the tenant has the right to renew the lease for one more year with same terms and conditions with a 50 day notice to owner.

At another place in the lease, under the title called special conditions, the language of the lease is (I am not providing the exact language here): The lease will be extended if and only if both parties agree for the terms and conditions of that extension or else there is no extension possible. This provision controls the lease if there is any other provision (in the lease that) conflicts with this provision.

If “renew” and “extend” are the same in a lease then without owner’s acceptance I cannot continue in this property (if I want) without owner's acceptance because “extension” will take precedence and owner must also accept this "extension"; the owner may increase the rent as part of that "extension". If “renew” and “extend" are different, I can continue in this property (if I want) by sending a 50 day notice for “renew”.
 
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Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
At one place the language of the lease is (I am not providing the exact language here): the tenant has the right to renew the lease for one more year with same terms and conditions with a 50 day notice to owner.

At another place in the lease, under the title called special conditions, the language of the lease is (I am not providing the exact language here): The lease will be extended if and only if both parties agree for the terms and conditions of that extension or else there is no extension possible. This provision controls the lease if there is any other provision (in the lease that) conflicts with this provision.

If “renew” and “extend” are the same in a lease then without owner’s acceptance I cannot continue in this property because “extend” will take precedence and owner must also accept this; and the owner may increase the rent. If “renew” and “extend" are different, I can continue by sending a 50 day notice for “renew”.
The difference between the words is moot.
 

quincy

Senior Member
At one place the language of the lease is (I am not providing the exact language here): the tenant has the right to renew the lease for one more year with same terms and conditions with a 50 day notice to owner.

At another place in the lease, under the title called special conditions, the language of the lease is (I am not providing the exact language here): The lease will be extended if and only if both parties agree for the terms and conditions of that extension or else there is no extension possible. This provision controls the lease if there is any other provision (in the lease that) conflicts with this provision.

If “renew” and “extend” are the same in a lease then without owner’s acceptance I cannot continue in this property because “extend” will take precedence and owner must also accept this; and the owner may increase the rent. If “renew” and “extend" are different, I can continue by sending a 50 day notice for “renew”.
I am not sure I understand. If you want your tenant to stay another year and your tenant wants to stay another year, your tenant can just sign a lease renewal.

If all terms and conditions are to stay the same, that makes the lease renewal easy. If you will be increasing the rent or changing other terms and conditions, you need to have a new lease signed. The lease is still considered “renewed.” The tenant is remaining your tenant.
 

gerard54

Member
I am not sure I understand. If you want your tenant to stay another year and your tenant wants to stay another year, your tenant can just sign a lease renewal.

If all terms and conditions are to stay the same, that makes the lease renewal easy. If you will be increasing the rent or changing other terms and conditions, you need to have a new lease signed. The lease is still considered “renewed.” The tenant is remaining your tenant.
I am the tenant, apologies for the confusion.

I want to continue leasing this property for one more year under the same terms and conditions. For this, the option I have is to send a 50 day notice to the owner to "renew" it. Owner recently said in a oral conversation that he wants to increase the rent next year.

Once I send this "renew" notice, whether the owner must accept it or the owner has the right to (i). either reject my offer to "renew" by using the "extension" provision (which is there under special conditions, as explained earlier) or (ii) demand for a new lease (by increasing the rent and changing other conditions of the existing lease), which is not feasible for me to accept, thereby I have to reject it?
 
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Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
Once I send this "renew" notice, does the owner has the right to (i). reject my offer to "renew" by using the "extension" provision (which is there under special conditions, as explained earlier) or (ii) demand for a new lease (by increasing the rent and changing other conditions of the existing lease), which is not feasible for me to accept, thereby I have to reject it?
Yes, so long as any increase in rent complies with applicable laws.
 

quincy

Senior Member
I am the tenant, apologies for the confusion.

I want to continue leasing this property for one more year under the same terms and conditions. For this, the option I have is to send a 50 day notice to the owner to "renew" it. Owner recently said in a oral conversation that he wants to increase the rent next year. If I send this "renew" notice, can the owner reject my offer to "renew" by using the following condition/provision existing for for "extension", and demand for a new lease, probably increasing the rent as well"?

At another place in the lease, under the title called special conditions, the language of the lease is (I am not providing the exact language here): The lease will be extended if and only if both parties agree for the terms and conditions of that extension or else there is no extension possible. This provision controls the lease if there is any other provision (in the lease that) conflicts with this provision.
A renewal simply means that you do not have to reapply for the rental and the landlord will not lease the rental to anyone else if you agree to a lease renewal 50 days before the lease terminates. The renewal does not mean that ALL terms and conditions will remain the same. Lease renewals often come with a rent increase that the tenant must agree to.

If you as tenant do NOT renew your lease, it could still be possible to extend your lease if your landlord agrees to an extension. An extension is often by the month and terms of the lease can also change by the month.

It is generally best financially for a tenant to renew for another year at a locked-in rate. A returning tenant might be able to negotiate a lower rent increase than the rental would go for otherwise, simply because the landlord does not have to spend extra money advertising the rental and preparing it for a new tenant.
 

gerard54

Member
It seems there is lot of confusion on my part, my apologies. Let me make it simple and straight forward:

based on the following case law, is there any difference between "renew" and "extension" in Florida leases?

Sisco v. Rotenberg, 104 So.2d 365 (1958): we are in accord with the plaintiff in this case that if any distinction may have been made in any other court as to "renewal" or "extension" of a lease, this Court will not consider such distinction. As we agreed in Leibowitz v. Christo, Fla. 1954, 75 So.2d 692, the distinction between the meaning of those two words when used in leases is too refined and theoretical to be real, as a matter of law, in practical affairs. Further, we have noticed in our research on this case that courts frequently speak of the question herein involved in relation to a lease as extended or renewed, using both terms.

Woodard v. Hartley 596 So.2d 1114 (1992): Under Florida law, no distinction is drawn between a "renewal" and an "extension" of a lease. Sisco v. Rotenberg, 104 So.2d 365, 370 (Fla. 1958); Leibowitz v. Christo, 75 So.2d 692, 693 (Fla. 1954) (the "distinction between the meaning of words renewal and extension was `too refined and theoretical to be real, as a matter of law, in practical affairs.'") (citation omitted); Strano v. Reisinger Real Estate, Inc., 534 So.2d 1214, 1215 n. 2 (Fla.3d DCA 1988), review dismissed, 542 So.2d 1334 (Fla. 1989).
 

quincy

Senior Member
What it comes down to is the mutual understanding between you and your landlord as to what the terms mean. Ask your landlord to clarify.

If you want to renew the lease for another year, however, I would get this clarification 50 or more days before the end of your current lease - or you could find yourself having to look for a new place to live.
 

adjusterjack

Senior Member
Once I send this "renew" notice, whether the owner must accept it or the owner has the right to (i). either reject my offer to "renew" by using the "extension" provision (which is there under special conditions, as explained earlier) or (ii) demand for a new lease (by increasing the rent and changing other conditions of the existing lease), which is not feasible for me to accept, thereby I have to reject it?

Is this a residence?

What's the expiration date of the current lease?
 

quincy

Senior Member
And please explain why this renew/extend language is a problem for you. Did you fail to renew the lease on time?
 

gerard54

Member
What it comes down to is the mutual understanding between you and your landlord as to what the terms mean. Ask your landlord to clarify.

If you want to renew the lease for another year, however, I would get this clarification 50 or more days before the end of your current lease - or you could find yourself having to look for a new place to live.

Let me done with one response at a time.

What if there is no mutual understanding between “renew” and “extend”? I say they are different (because I want a “renew” because it won’t increase the rent if the lease is “renewed”) and he says they are the same (because he wants to either sent me out without an “extension” or increase the rent by that “extension” lease).

There is case law, which I am not providing here is that if there are any special conditions in a lease then those special conditions will survive over other conditions if there is conflict between them. In my lease, as I explained before, under the title called special conditions, it is specified as follows (not the exact language):

The lease will be “extended” if and only if both parties agree for the terms and conditions of that “extension” or else there is no “extension” possible once this lease expires. This provision controls the lease if there is any other provision (in the lease that) conflicts with this provision.

[quotations around “renew” and “extend” are not there in the lease]
 

quincy

Senior Member
You are starting with a false premise. Neither renewing a lease nor extending a lease precludes an increase in rent or a change in other lease terms or conditions.

All a renewal or extension does is allows a tenant to stay in the same place without having to fill out a new application and go through another background check.

I would hazard a guess and say that most lease renewals or extensions come with rent increases.
 

gerard54

Member
You are starting with a false premise. Neither renewing a lease nor extending a lease precludes an increase in rent or a change in other lease terms or conditions.

All a renewal or extension does is allows a tenant to stay in the same place without having to fill out a new application and go through another background check.

I would hazard a guess and say that most lease renewals or extensions come with rent increases.

At one place the language of the lease is (I am not providing the exact language here): "the tenant has the right to renew the lease for one more year with same terms and conditions including the same rent with a 50 day notice to owner."

Thats why I want to"renew" not "extend."

At another place in the lease, under the title called special conditions, the language of the lease is (I am not providing the exact language here): "The lease will be extended if and only if both parties agree for the terms and conditions of that extension (including the rent amount) or else there is no extension possible, and this provision controls the lease if there is any other provision (in the lease that) conflicts with this provision."

Thats why the owner wants to "extend" not "renew." so that he can increase the rent while doing the "extension".

May be you are overlooking these points and also overlooking the Florida case law which I said above (and repeating here again below) and probably talking about "renew" and "extend" in general (i.e., not based on the case law of Florida):

Sisco v. Rotenberg, 104 So.2d 365 (1958): we are in accord with the plaintiff in this case that if any distinction may have been made in any other court as to "renewal" or "extension" of a lease, this Court will not consider such distinction. As we agreed in Leibowitz v. Christo, Fla. 1954, 75 So.2d 692, the distinction between the meaning of those two words when used in leases is too refined and theoretical to be real, as a matter of law, in practical affairs. Further, we have noticed in our research on this case that courts frequently speak of the question herein involved in relation to a lease as extended or renewed, using both terms.

Woodard v. Hartley 596 So.2d 1114 (1992): Under Florida law, no distinction is drawn between a "renewal" and an "extension" of a lease. Sisco v. Rotenberg, 104 So.2d 365, 370 (Fla. 1958); Leibowitz v. Christo, 75 So.2d 692, 693 (Fla. 1954) (the "distinction between the meaning of words renewal and extension was `too refined and theoretical to be real, as a matter of law, in practical affairs.'") (citation omitted); Strano v. Reisinger Real Estate, Inc., 534 So.2d 1214, 1215 n. 2 (Fla.3d DCA 1988), review dismissed, 542 So.2d 1334 (Fla. 1989).
 
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