False advertising for a puppy

[justalayman]

contact the aspca and the attorney general's office. Don't know if either will get too excited about the issue but that is where I would start.

If you want the laws changed, contact your legislators.

 

[cap727]

contact the aspca and the attorney general's office. Don't know if either will get too excited about the issue but that is where I would start.

If you want the laws changed, contact your legislators.

thanks for your input

 

[LdiJ]

contact the aspca and the attorney general's office. Don't know if either will get too excited about the issue but that is where I would start.

If you want the laws changed, contact your legislators.

I actually think that contacting both might get some results. States seem to be particularly interested in shutting down "puppy mills".

 

[CJane]

Is this a breed that is known to have heart issues? I suspect that it is, if the breeder is stating that they do "cardiac clearances". A true OFA Cardiac Clearance cannot be given until the dog is 12 months old. At this point, the breeder is UNABLE to provide a cardiac clearance certificate to you, since you reference a "puppy".

The fact that the breeder said that she sells puppies who have "cardiac clearance", when it's not even possible until the dog is 12 months old, should have been your red flag that you weren't going to get what you were paying for. It's similar to buying a breed that is prone to hip displaysia, and having the breeder say they have 'hip checks' done. In most dogs, there is no way to 'check' a puppie's hips and know whether they'll suffer from hip issues as an older dog. Same deal with the heart 'clearance'.

Finally, a heart murmur CAN be congenital. It can also be developed later in life. There's no guarantee that at a previous appointment, a vet would have detected a murmur.

 

[cap727]

Is this a breed that is known to have heart issues? I suspect that it is, if the breeder is stating that they do "cardiac clearances". A true OFA Cardiac Clearance cannot be given until the dog is 12 months old. At this point, the breeder is UNABLE to provide a cardiac clearance certificate to you, since you reference a "puppy".

The fact that the breeder said that she sells puppies who have "cardiac clearance", when it's not even possible until the dog is 12 months old, should have been your red flag that you weren't going to get what you were paying for. It's similar to buying a breed that is prone to hip displaysia, and having the breeder say they have 'hip checks' done. In most dogs, there is no way to 'check' a puppie's hips and know whether they'll suffer from hip issues as an older dog. Same deal with the heart 'clearance'.

Finally, a heart murmur CAN be congenital. It can also be developed later in life. There's no guarantee that at a previous appointment, a vet would have detected a murmur.

Thank you for that information. I have been trying to find what cardiac clear means on line. Didn't know there was a certificate and since she wrote that the parents were AKC, OFA, Cardiac Clear and they work with their vet to keep the animals healthy I find that interesting. When I questioned the Cardiac Clear statement she told me there was no such thing as a certificate for cardiac clear and in fact all that she meant was that they had been checked by a vet...which she later stated this puppy wasn't. It's really splitting hairs at this point and I just have to let it go and deal with the situation at hand - just wish there was some way for other potential buyers to be more informed. Thanks for the information about the cardiac clearances.

 

[Ohiogal]

Thank you for that information. I have been trying to find what cardiac clear means on line. Didn't know there was a certificate and since she wrote that the parents were AKC, OFA, Cardiac Clear and they work with their vet to keep the animals healthy I find that interesting. When I questioned the Cardiac Clear statement she told me there was no such thing as a certificate for cardiac clear and in fact all that she meant was that they had been checked by a vet...which she later stated this puppy wasn't. It's really splitting hairs at this point and I just have to let it go and deal with the situation at hand - just wish there was some way for other potential buyers to be more informed. Thanks for the information about the cardiac clearances.

YOu stated that the parents were Cardiac Clear and that the breeder stated they work with their vet. All that can be true. It doesn't mean she lied at all about the puppy. You may have ASSUMED something that was not accurate. Because according to what you have relayed, the parents of the puppy were checked by the vet and "cardiac clear". That is different from your prior accusation.

 

[cap727]

YOu stated that the parents were Cardiac Clear and that the breeder stated they work with their vet. All that can be true. It doesn't mean she lied at all about the puppy. You may have ASSUMED something that was not accurate. Because according to what you have relayed, the parents of the puppy were checked by the vet and "cardiac clear". That is different from your prior accusation.

Also states "our puppies have dew claws removed, first shots, dewormed and cardiac clearances." when questioned she admitted that parents were not "cardiac clear" but had their annual check ups and the puppies had not been to a vet...not sure how they would recieve cardiac clearances?

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

So regardless of your diatribe, the bottom line is you return the puppy or keep it. You do not get to dictate how or when someone else will pay for vet care.