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osmosis

Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? FL

I am filing for a modification of custody on the 1st, and along with that I am filing a motion for GAL. I feel GAL is necessary, not only due to the history but due to the fact that the children have a lot to say regarding the things going on in their home that I can not present to the judge on their behalf. CPS has been involved with our children since February 2007, and in June 2008 they came to my home to do an interview and inspection for "possible future placement".

They didn't find that the children were in any immediate danger in their current home, but did find that the stress level at their home is extremely high and recommended the children go to counseling for PAS and recommended that I file for custody through the courts. At that time, their Mother was working graveyard shift at a women's prison while the children spent all of their non-school time with a sitter, who advertised on his Myspace page his affinity for marijuana and ecstasy pills.

Around the same time, we (my wife & I) ended up having to put life on hold and go out of state for a while to be with my father-in-law, as he was suffering from renal failure and was not expected to live. During that period, we had the children in our sole care for my portion of summer vacation. Shortly after they were returned to their mother, my wife and our family moved closer to the children. (We were 98.9 mi away initially. We are now 28.2 mi)

During the summer months while I was with the children and out of state, I fell behind in support. She hit me for contempt, and in November I spent 24 hours in jail and paid the purge. I am now back on track with support. The children still have not received any counseling for PAS, as the mother refuses to cooperate beyond changing her work schedule to the day shift. Now in lieu of the drug-using babysitter, they are left home alone when mom has to go out.

Having said all of that (some of which was for clarification purposes) my questions are:

1. Does the GAL have access to CPS records that I do not?

The last time I filed for GAL (Nov '06), the motion wasn't heard until the day of the custody hearing (May '07), at which time the judge informed me that it was basically a moot point.

2. How do I get the Motion for GAL addressed sooner if I can not file one without the other?
 


Ohiogal

Queen Bee
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? FL

I am filing for a modification of custody on the 1st, and along with that I am filing a motion for GAL. I feel GAL is necessary, not only due to the history but due to the fact that the children have a lot to say regarding the things going on in their home that I can not present to the judge on their behalf. CPS has been involved with our children since February 2007, and in June 2008 they came to my home to do an interview and inspection for "possible future placement".

They didn't find that the children were in any immediate danger in their current home, but did find that the stress level at their home is extremely high and recommended the children go to counseling for PAS and recommended that I file for custody through the courts. At that time, their Mother was working graveyard shift at a women's prison while the children spent all of their non-school time with a sitter, who advertised on his Myspace page his affinity for marijuana and ecstasy pills.

Around the same time, we (my wife & I) ended up having to put life on hold and go out of state for a while to be with my father-in-law, as he was suffering from renal failure and was not expected to live. During that period, we had the children in our sole care for my portion of summer vacation. Shortly after they were returned to their mother, my wife and our family moved closer to the children. (We were 98.9 mi away initially. We are now 28.2 mi)

During the summer months while I was with the children and out of state, I fell behind in support. She hit me for contempt, and in November I spent 24 hours in jail and paid the purge. I am now back on track with support. The children still have not received any counseling for PAS, as the mother refuses to cooperate beyond changing her work schedule to the day shift. Now in lieu of the drug-using babysitter, they are left home alone when mom has to go out.

Having said all of that (some of which was for clarification purposes) my questions are:

1. Does the GAL have access to CPS records that I do not?

The last time I filed for GAL (Nov '06), the motion wasn't heard until the day of the custody hearing (May '07), at which time the judge informed me that it was basically a moot point.

2. How do I get the Motion for GAL addressed sooner if I can not file one without the other?


PAS is NOT something you want to argue. A GAL may very well have access to records you do not. Ask for an expedited hearing on the MOTION for GAL
 

osmosis

Member
I went to the clerk's office today to find out about obtaining transcripts from the last custody hearing. I was informed that unless I requested a transcript be made prior to the hearing there isn't one.

I was also told by the clerk that a GAL "Can get very expensive". According to the FL GAL site Welcome!, "The Florida Guardian ad Litem Association is a non-profit organization whose mission is to provide additional resources for the Florida Guardian ad Litem Program and its affiliated circuit non-profit organizations in order to promote Guardian ad Litem representation for 100% of abused, neglected and abandoned children in Florida's dependency system. "

So I am a bit confused as to if it's going to cost money to have a GAL, and if our case would even qualify, being as the case is not a dependency case. Any thoughts? I don't want to go around making frivolous motions.
 
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osmosis

Member
I also found out that the drug-using step brother is back in the children's home and is the person responsible for their care when mom is gone. That can't go over very well with the court, especially since he left the home shortly after CPS came in the last time.
 

CJane

Senior Member
A GAL is appointed (often at the state's expense) in ALL cases of Abuse/Neglect/Dependency.

A GAL can be appointed in OTHER cases (such as your custody case) in order to ascertain the best interests of the children and act as the eyes/ears of the court. This CAN get expensive. The two cases I've had that involved a GAL ended up around $2500 each (my ex and I were ordered to split the expenses).

But, IMO, a GAL can be an invaluable resource and asset in order to ensure that what really matters (the kids) is what is focused on.
 

osmosis

Member
Thanks for the answers, CJane. It seems to be worth every penny, even if I have to go in debt to do it.


This is off topic from the original post, but I think I'm supposed to keep all my questions in the one active thread.. I now have a request for CPS advice.

As I've said in previous posts, Child Protective Services became aware of the children's 19 y/o live-in stepbrother/babysitter in May of 2008, when it became known that he was the full time caretaker for the children while mom worked graveyard shift. I looked up his MySpace page and found various marijuana related graphics, as well as a photo of him smoking what appears to be a joint. On his page it stated that he enjoyed smoking "fat blunts" on the beach and taking ecstasy pills. Shortly after CPS became involved he moved out of the house.

He's been back for about a month, according to the children, and has become their babysitter again. Is this something that Child Protective Services should be made aware of? I was told by the sheriff's investigator that when drugs are involved CPS is obligated to get involved, but I'm not certain what to do, if anything.
 

CJane

Senior Member
Personally? I wouldn't muddy the waters w/a CPS call unless you think the kids are actually IN IMMINENT DANGER.
 

osmosis

Member
Personally? I wouldn't muddy the waters w/a CPS call unless you think the kids are actually IN IMMINENT DANGER.

That's kind of what I was thinking, but wanted to be sure. I don't want to cry wolf, but at the same time I don't want to be faulted for standing back and not doing something if the situation warranted it.

Thank you.
 

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