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pamoore

Junior Member
What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? Alabama
Is there any law that states I would be responsible for a debt that was made using my personal information without my knowledge??? My 32 year old daughter in another state did this - I informed the company the account was not mine, was opened without my permission and I was not going to file charges against the mother of my grandchildren. I filled out the fraud investigation papers, gave them all the documentation required - everything but file a police report and press charges against my daughter. Now they send me a letter stating that if I do not file charges, they will assume the debt is mine. Don't they have some responsibility to verify ID before issueing credit ???
 


Some Random Guy

Senior Member
If you don't legally dispute the account by file charges then you are giving your daughter permission to do it.

If you want to protect your daughter from the law, then you should expect to pay her bills too.
 

pamoore

Junior Member
I see what you are saying and if my daughter was not going through a big divorce/custody battle, I would file a police report. My question was is there a LAW saying I am liable to honor an agreement I never made. I SIGNED NO CONTRACT - I had no knowledge of it. AND - I am unable to pay it.
 

Some Random Guy

Senior Member
Its not a question of a LAW but rather of proof for a contract dispute.

An account was opened with a creditor using your name, ssn, etc. Quote understandably, they now want the money owed to them. You reply "its not me, its someone else". They ask for evidence its not you and you reply, "sorry, I don't want her to be liable for this either". Doesn't make you look good in the court's eyes.

Now, if your daughter is willing to own up to her responsibility in writing, then there is a very tiny chance you could get the debt switched over to her name. But that chance is so tiny as to be infinitesimal because your credit is no doubt better than hers and the CC company knows you have a better chance to pey them back.

Unless you feel like paying for this yourself, your choices are to press charges or to pay the bill and then try to collect from your daughter. The second option may not be too bad because her husband may end up paying half (due to reduced marital assets).
 

pamoore

Junior Member
OH - I have proof, the account was opened in my former name. I re-married 2 years ago. I moved to another state at that time. I changed my name with SS - on Driver's license - everything. All of this is documented. Yet these accounts were opened in my former name. They never even asked for idenity or checked that the name the account was opened in was not the same as for the SS# given - nor the address. guess I am screwed for not wanting to hurt my grandkids. Thanks anyway.
 

Debt Guy

Senior Member
Q. Is there any law that states I would be responsible for a debt that was made using my personal information without my knowledge???

A. No.

Q. My 32 year old daughter in another state did this - I informed the company the account was not mine, was opened without my permission and I was not going to file charges against the mother of my grandchildren. I filled out the fraud investigation papers, gave them all the documentation required - everything but file a police report and press charges against my daughter.

A. You can't file charges. Only the DA can file charges. ID theft is a criminal matter not a civil matter. All you can do is file a police report and let the law do whatever it wants to do. All you need to do is file the report and just say that someone stole your identify and opened accounts in your name. The police will want to know if you have knowledge of who did this. Do you know for absolutely sure your daughter did this? If not, then you can truthfully say that you don't know. You will be asked to sign the police report under oath so you must be truthful. However, you should never speculate or gossip about things you do not know for fact. Say only what you know for fact -- not what you suspect or what you think. Then shut up.

Q. Now they send me a letter stating that if I do not file charges, they will assume the debt is mine.

A. They can assume what they want to assume. They can assume the moon is made of green cheese. If you just ignore this, they will probably sue you because you are the easier target. When you are sued, you then respond with a general denial and conduct discovery to make them prove the debt is yours. They will not be able to prove that since they will have no matching signature, etc. I don't see how the judge can award a judgment to the creditor in such a case. The judge may spit in your eye if he thinks you helped cover up your daugher's theft.

Q. Don't they have some responsibility to verify ID before issueing credit ???

A. Yes and no. They can do what they want. However, they bear the risk of extending the credit.

OK. Lets cut through all the crap.

Your daughter lied and stole money.

You love your daughter and her children.

Therein is a lot of conflict.

The right thing would be for you to file a police report. However, I do not believe you are required to. If you don't file the police report then don't expect the credit card company to be very happy. Expect them to try to take the money away from you. After all, they just want their money back. There is nothing unfair about that.

Regardless of what decision you make on the police report, the fact remains that your daughter is a liar and a cheat and you still love her and her family. I predict many storm clouds in her future -- and probably yours.

By the way, the credit card company could file a police report if they wanted to. All a police report means is that a citizen (you as an individual or a corporation) is making a report that says someone committed a criminal act. It is the job of the police to investigate and the job of the DA to file criminal charges as are appropriate.

Maybe you should just hire a local lawyer and tell the credit card company to call your attorney. It might be cheaper in the long run.
 

Veronica1228

Senior Member
The credit company requires that you file a police report so that they are assured that they are not being scammed by a father/ daughter con team. I realize that this is not the case, but you can't blame the credit card company for protecting their assets.

At my bank the rule is; no police report, no action taken. Sorry.
 

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