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Becky5555

Member
in California it claims in gov tort act do not need to file claim before civil tort filed if there is corruption, fraud, crime. whitblowing termination is a considered also a crime so why would one have to file a claim and not be able to file the tort as a demur claims in my case?
what would the cause of action be? first demur judge said cannot be a cause of action, that the defendant (head of HR who did the act and right after whistblowing unknown to boss) cannot terminate as technically defendant is not employer as she works for employer. How do I state the cause of action.? (will get attorney when I can afford or get over hump of demur) "caused employeer to violate" (would that be correct???) labor law and specific to my gov postion is statutes against whistblor term. Also constitutional right as spoke to board right before as well about illegal activities in HR.
also if a letter was sent by attorney to prevent me from going to board, and was successful because it scared me, then did she "cause a constitutional violation" as she approved letter as attorney works with and for head of HR?
I am in demur and need to oppose it based on figuring out what I would change to have and all elements of the cause of action.
 


quincy

Senior Member
in California it claims in gov tort act do not need to file claim before civil tort filed if there is corruption, fraud, crime. whitblowing termination is a considered also a crime so why would one have to file a claim and not be able to file the tort as a demur claims in my case?
what would the cause of action be? first demur judge said cannot be a cause of action, that the defendant (head of HR who did the act and right after whistblowing unknown to boss) cannot terminate as technically defendant is not employer as she works for employer. How do I state the cause of action.? (will get attorney when I can afford or get over hump of demur) "caused employeer to violate" (would that be correct???) labor law and specific to my gov postion is statutes against whistblor term. Also constitutional right as spoke to board right before as well about illegal activities in HR.
also if a letter was sent by attorney to prevent me from going to board, and was successful because it scared me, then did she "cause a constitutional violation" as she approved letter as attorney works with and for head of HR?
I am in demur and need to oppose it based on figuring out what I would change to have and all elements of the cause of action.
I am not sure I understand your situation. Did you file a claim with the EEOC? Were you terminated from your position in retaliation for you filing a complaint?
 

Becky5555

Member
union filed a wrongful term claim for me to gov entity (school district) but it was based on legal right to dismissel procedures not done in blatent violtion of ed code laws when I lost original position then demoted. then went to board and spoke and sent emails telling about illegal actions and millions of fruad in budget report that HR lied about, and I could prove due to my misclassication case union was doing (separate) I was fired and in tribunal court (claim immunity for personal laswsuit I filed pro per (regrettable but stuck in it or owe) with evidence of emails that head of HR knew I was whisblowing and she sent minutes later I should be cut. (claim issue long story) I filed then in superior court regular lawsuit. Judge said not cause of action because I am claiming She (head of HR) terminated me and she cant because she is not my employer. So I revised and got approval to amend and changed it to Caused my my employer to whistblow terminate but now a demur and I must write Opp brief.
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
union filed a wrongful term claim for me to gov entity (school district) but it was based on legal right to dismissel procedures not done in blatent violtion of ed code laws when I lost original position then demoted. then went to board and spoke and sent emails telling about illegal actions and millions of fruad in budget report that HR lied about, and I could prove due to my misclassication case union was doing (separate) I was fired and in tribunal court (claim immunity for personal laswsuit I filed pro per (regrettable but stuck in it or owe) with evidence of emails that head of HR knew I was whisblowing and she sent minutes later I should be cut. (claim issue long story) I filed then in superior court regular lawsuit. Judge said not cause of action because I am claiming She (head of HR) terminated me and she cant because she is not my employer. So I revised and got approval to amend and changed it to Caused my my employer to whistblow terminate but now a demur and I must write Opp brief.

Were you a teacher?
 

Becky5555

Member
so basically in PERB or tribunal court got documents and emails between head of HR and others in top management and she cleary intentionally commited a crime of whsitblower termination based on evidence. I Then filed in Superior Court a personal lawsuit but I still have my emails to her asking why my email was cut and not allowed to work and no response was given. I did not know I was fired until actual tribunal labor hearing. One is on abeyance or hold pending my superior court misclassfcation case which I should win.
Question, How do I state a cause of action against an employee of a local government entitity when I do not name the entity in lawsuit. I am only naming her. I think there must be something more proper than "caused my employer to".
 

Becky5555

Member
I was a teacher, and should have been under union, CBA for years but was misclassified as a sub in violation of statutes and all internal polices. so no union, no need to exhaust admin remeidies either. The claims that were filed were not for whistblower term but for legal entittlment to dismissal based on misclassification. Then after whisblowing to retirement system, finally they opened an audit and months later I received email the school attorney told the director of payroll not to talk to him (laws and statutes allow retirement system to audit and investigate) but he stopped and still has not continued the open audit. I did file a claim on this but was no longer employee, then few months later filed this personal lawsuit (I can seem to do writs on my own fairly good but the personal lawsuit is grey because of writing out cause of actions and Cal Gov Tort Act. Although I tried in my opp to say that the Gov Tort Act says in actual malice and corruption or fraud (whisblower term is crime as school employee in Ed code 44010-) and tort act says if no claim is done then its two years statute of limitations. I need attorney. Judge said ok to amend whistblower and constintutional causes some but others said I filed a claim and did not file in 6 months. But I argued in verbal and inpart in opp that it says I don't have to if malice, corup or fraud (think gov code 822) but judge cut most my causes of action but I have few to amend which I did but now I am arging in Second Amended Complaint I want to amend again to write out these cuases of action and narrow them down to a few but I keep getting confused.
 

Taxing Matters

Overtaxed Member
(whisblower term is crime as school employee in Ed code 44010-)

It's important to note that not all reports that you might consider to be whistle blowing are protected from retaliation by your employer/supervisor. So what exactly is it that you reported that you believe you were terminated for? And whom are you suing, the district, your supervisor individually, or someone else (no names, just position titles)?

And importantly, which exact whistleblower law are you using for the basis of your court complaint?

It can't be California Education Code (EC) § 44010 that you mentioned above because that section defines what a sex crime is for purposes of particular sections of the Education Code. It has nothing to do with whistleblowers. So that would not seem to apply to whatever it is you were terminated for.

EC § 44114(b), on the other hand, makes it an offense for a person to intentionally engage "in acts of reprisal, retaliation, threats, coercion, or similar acts against a public school employee or applicant for employment with a public school employer for having made a protected disclosure." So this provision does address whistle blowing. But the definitions of the terms used in that law are important.

A "protected disclosure" is defined by EC § 44112(e) to mean:

(e) “Protected disclosure” means a good faith communication that discloses or demonstrates an intention to disclose information that may evidence either of the following:
(1) An improper governmental activity.
(2) Any condition that may significantly threaten the health or safety of employees or the public if the disclosure or intention to disclose was made for the purpose of remedying that condition.

An "improper governmental activity" is defined by EC § 44112(c) to mean:

(c) “Improper governmental activity” means an activity by a public school agency or by an employee that is undertaken in the performance of the employee's official duties, whether or not that activity is within the scope of his or her employment, and that meets either of the following descriptions:
(1) The activity violates a state or federal law or regulation, including, but not limited to, corruption, malfeasance, bribery, theft of government property, fraudulent claims, fraud, coercion, conversion, malicious prosecution, misuse of government property, or willful omission to perform duty.
(2) The activity is economically wasteful or involves gross misconduct, incompetency, or inefficiency.

EC § 44114(c) authorizes an employee who has been subject to such reprisal, retaliation, threats, coercion, etc to sue the person who engaged in those activities for compensation for damages and potentially for punitive damages, along with reimbursement of legal fees. However, before the employee may sue for such damages, he or she must have reported the incident to local law enforcement.

Then there is EC § 44113(a), which states that an "employee may not directly or indirectly use or attempt to use the official authority or influence of the employee for the purpose of intimidating, threatening, coercing, commanding, or attempting to intimidate, threaten, coerce, or command any person for the purpose of interfering with the right of that person to disclose to an official agent matters within the scope of this article." This is separate whistle blowing provision. It covers retaliation for disclosing to an official agent "matters within the scope of this article". So it is broader. But a violation here is not a crime. Those who encountered retaliation for making or attempting to make the covered disclosure may sue the employee who engaged in the retaliation per EC §44113(d). A key thing here is that given the definition of "employee" in the EC, you cannot sue a management official for this violation, but you may sue a supervisory official. In short, a management employee who is not a supervisor cannot be sued for a violation of EC § 44113. Nor can you sue the District for this either. See Conn v. W. Placer Unified Sch. Dist., 186 Cal. App. 4th 1163, 1175, 113 Cal. Rptr. 3d 116, 125 (2010), as modified on denial of reh'g (Aug. 10, 2010).

So are you suing under EC § 44114(c), EC § 44113(d), or under some other whistleblower law?

The details of what you allege happened and what the basis of your termination was are extremely important to determining what, if any whistle blower claim you might have. That in turn affects whether you may sue the district and/or the supervisor or other person who retaliated against you individually. It will also impact what procedures you had to follow and what statute of limitations (SOL) applies.

As you hopefully can see, this is not exactly simple stuff. I agree with you that you need an attorney, and the sooner, the better. If you have a good case, you might be able to recover your attorneys fees from the defendant depending on which whistle blower claim you have. Even if you can't do that, if the case is worth enough you can get an attorney to take it on a contingent fee basis, which means the lawyer's fee is a percentage of whatever you win (if you win anything). Don't wait to see the lawyer until the court rules on the demurrer. You might find your case dead if the courts rules in favor of the demurrer. So you need to get this right while you still can, and that's going to start by consulting a lawyer who handles wrongful termination claims. If you can find one familiar with wrongful termination claims of public school teachers that would be ideal.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
Question, How do I state a cause of action against an employee of a local government entitity when I do not name the entity in lawsuit. I am only naming her. I think there must be something more proper than "caused my employer to".
Your question goes beyond the scope of this (or any) internet forum. You need to consult with an attorney.
 

quincy

Senior Member
Do you have an attorney?
In the first post, Becky said: “.. will get attorney when I can afford or get over hump of demur ...”

The fact that Becky does not yet have an attorney is perhaps why members have been recommending Becky get an attorney - preferably sooner rather than later.
 

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