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PS: If being against drunk driving makes me a MADD cheerleader or whatever else you want to call it, then so be it.

You're so f-ing ignorant. You still believe MADD is about DRUNK drivers. People who have one drink are being arrested for DUI and MADD couldn't be happier because they MAKE MONEY off of DUIs. They have NO desire to prevent DUIs. Their only interested is punishing. Your ignorance is just a pawn in their game.

Granted, some DUI statistics are skewed due to improper recording procedures, but that does not excuse the fact that (really) drunk people still drive, and when they do, they cause a lot more than their proportionate share of accidents.

They are skewed because they count accidents "alcohol-related" when all drivers involved were sober. Sober driver with drunk passengers = "alcohol-related". The NHTSA has admited their reports are misleading. The proof is available but you don't want the truth.

Over 1.5 million people get arrested for DUI each year. Out of those 1.5 million people less than a quarter of a percent are involved in any type of accident. So how exactly do you figure it to be "proportinate"?

Why you and the other drunks here are never going to get anywhere with your DUI "reform" is simple - you continue to act as if getting drunk and driving away wasn't an intentional, conscious act. People choose to drive drunk. No one forces them.

Point out exactly where I said a DRUNK drivers shouldn't be punished? The "reform" isn't about letting people drive DRUNK. But your inability to comprehend that is what makes you continue to make sh!t up.

So whining that the penalties are too stiff, whopp-di-freaking-doo. Want an easy and free way to avoid them? Don't drink and drive. Damn simple.

You're too stupid to understand people are being arrested after drinking ZERO alcohol or ZERO drugs. There has been three cases posted in this very forum within the past nine months, but you conveniently ignored those. You don't know crap about the current state of DUI laws. You don't know crap about faulty methods used to convict people of the crime. You don't understand that getting arrested for DUI doesn't have to involve alcohol or drugs. Get falsely accused and arrested for DUI, spend several hours in jail, then several thousand dollars to hire a lawyer, then come back and tell us all how great the current state of DUI laws are. Until then, try spending more time educating yourself and less time accusing people of being a drunk.
 


You Are Guilty

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Well said, alky! However, when you sober up, you might notice that you're actually "arguing" the point I agreed with you on. I know DUI stats are inflated, it's not exactly a secret. But guess what, I don't care! If you think that being drunk (whether at .08 or .2) makes you a better than average driver, then it's fairly evident who's got the $hit-for-brains here. And I didn't need to go to law school to learn that one.

For the record, I wouldn't need a DUI lawyer because I know better than to drink and drive. Oopsie!
 

Veronica1228

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fagettaboutit said:
Carl, Carl, you're so very unaware, hon. Where do you think MADD spends a majority of the millions of dollars they collect? Lobbying for tougher DUI laws. If MADD has nothing to do with DUI laws, call them and tell them their PR is false. Thus far they have taken credit from new laws to changing the drinking age. They also affect the way judges and prosecutors handle DUI cases through intimidation. Granted you don't support MADD but you also know very little about them too. Your So Guilty is a total MADD supporter. Notice how he calls everyone a drunk. Typical MADD talk.
If you are so against MADD, then why don't you start your own organization and take up donations at your local bars to lobby for changes. I even have the perfect name for you.

Drunken United Men Because Alcoholics Stay Stupid
 
I agree with faggetaboutit

In the good old days before I got committed, me, Wanda, Shawn and Shayne would get rip roaring drunk, then pile into Shawn's pickup truck and drive around shooting out traffic signs. We'd laugh like a pack of Hyenas. Never had no problems either. Veronica, that dumbass organization sounds like a pretty good idea.
 
fagettaboutit said:
excuse excuse excuse, complain complain complain... You're too stupid to understand people are being arrested after drinking ZERO alcohol or ZERO drugs. There has been three cases posted in this very forum within the past nine months, but you conveniently ignored those... blah blah blah, pander pander pander, whine whine whine


And you're too stupid to see that out of those three, the rest are decidedly guilty of DUI - from the kid who swore he wasn't driving drunk, he was just driving under the influence of spiked fanta, to the guy who was already pulled over when the cop came up to his vehicle and claimed that it was an unwarranted search of his vehicle to bust him for DUI.

And before you point that finger of blame at the police, consider this: if neanderthals like yourself didn't go boozing and joyriding, DUI wouldn't be an issue, and nobody would be suspected of it.

YOU create the problem, and then blame the solution on others? That's rich. It'd be funny if I knew you were just acting retarded.
 

You Are Guilty

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RIDL_Prez said:
You Are Guilty as long as you continue to name call then nothing you say is worth a damn or worth responding to.
Why is it that you chose to respond to that label? I certainly never named anyone specifically, yet you were compelled to answer.

Dictionary.com said:
drunk Pronunciation Key (drngk)
n.

1. [highlight]A drunkard.[/highlight]
2. A bout of drinking.

Main Entry: drunk·ard
Pronunciation: 'dr&[ng]-k&rd
Function: noun
: one suffering from or subject to acute or chronic alcoholism : one who habitually becomes drunk

Source: Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

drunkard

n : a chronic drinker (syn: drunk, rummy, sot, inebriate)

If it walks like a drunk, talks like a rummy, smells like a sot... it's an inebriate.

And by your response, I guess that would include you.
 

Shay-Pari'e

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You Are Guilty said:
Why is it that you chose to respond to that label? I certainly never named anyone specifically, yet you were compelled to answer.





If it walks like a drunk, talks like a rummy, smells like a sot... it's an inebriate.

And by your response, I guess that would include you.

http://www.ridl.us/

You cant argue with a drunk YAG. Right Jeanne Pruitt?
 

RIDL_Prez

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Wow, hey faggetaboutit, looks like AHA got "MADD" and went and rounded up all her MADD friends.

The MADDness abounds around here.

Typical. If they can't win an argument they start name-calling and referring to anyone who disagrees with them as drunks. Blah, blah, blah. We've seen it a million times. You'd think they'd come up with something original.

Well, you know what they say. The definition of insanity (oh, make that MADDness) is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

De-NIAL is not just a river in Egypt.
 

RIDL_Prez

Member
For those of you in Pennsylvania, I've been invited to be on the Michael Smerconish talk show tomorrow morning to discuss the Keith Emerich case http://www.ridl.us/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=477

We will be taping a 10 minute interview this afternoon. Here is the information for those who want to listen in:

Michael Smerconish’s morning drive radio program. Michael is Philadelphia’s preeminent radio talk show host - his program airs each weekday morning from 5:30 to 9:00a.m. on The Big Talker, 1210AM WPHT, an Infinity owned, 50,000 Watt station. The program reaches Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Delaware. Michael’s audience consists of more than 400,000 people every week.

I think they're going to play my interview around 8am.
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
I doubt I shall see the day when a politician will actually run on a platform of weakening DUI laws. Ain't gonna happen.


- Carl
 

Shay-Pari'e

Senior Member
fagettaboutit said:
You're so f-ing ignorant. You still believe MADD is about DRUNK drivers.

Yes they are. Care to tell us who MADD is in your pathetic mind? Come on dude, surely you can tell us what they are about, why they formed,...................AND HOW IT IS HURTING YOU?

Simple question,.................Simple answer. I am not interested in your usual diatribe.
 
RIDL_Prez said:
Typical. If they can't win an argument they start name-calling and referring to anyone who disagrees with them as drunks. Blah, blah, blah. We've seen it a million times. You'd think they'd come up with something original.

So far, the only person I've seen that disagrees with the DUI laws are drunks. Plain and simple. That includes you.

People who don't drive under the impairment of alcohol have no problem with DUI laws, because those laws will never affect them. In fact, some of us think they should be a little more strict!

I also fail to see which argument you're winning. Also, if you've seen our argument "a million times", you'd think you'd get it into your alcohol-atrophied grey matter that DRUNK DRIVING IS ILLEGAL and quit it!

Oh well, I guess the good news is that if you're conducting interviews and building websites all the time, you're probably too busy to breed.
 
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