Hannah13....

[Rushia]

Hannah13,

Please understand that noone is trying to bash you or be mean. You really need to sit back and learn. I was here for a year before I even attempted to help.

You also need to understand that your case is much different than other peoples cases. Grandparent visitation rights are a VERY sensitive subject for a lot of people, myself included. You are obviously biased to gps, I on the other hand am biased to the parents and tend not to answer on the gp threads unless I REALLY feel that I can help someone. Remember that every persons perceptions are different and you need to be more objective and apply the correct LEGAL answer.

 

[Hannah13]

quote: Grandparent visitation rights are a VERY sensitive subject for a lot of people, myself included. You are obviously biased to gps

Correct on all of what you have said except for the above...I have 3 other grand children...they are just fine with great parents. Never in a million years would I have thought this was going to occur. Had I known I would have taken far better care of myself lol.
When parents are truly found unfit...grand parents must step up to the plate...or aunts and uncles and perhaps even step moms...someone must.

I am not biased to gps at all...I do not knit, I work, I do not bake I work, the movie called: babyboom comes to mind....in fact some say I look like Diane Keaton. The problem is I look like she looks today...not 20 yrs. ago when that movie came out. lol

I do apologize to those that think this of me though. On another thread there is someone that says: grandparents must be there to protect the children of those few cases where the parents are found unfit. Only we don't plan this...nor should we be "outcasted" when it occurs and treated poorly. After all we love the children too you know. So much.

 

[Rushia]

quote: Grandparent visitation rights are a VERY sensitive subject for a lot of people, myself included. You are obviously biased to gps

Correct on all of what you have said except for the above...I have 3 other grand children...they are just fine with great parents. Never in a million years would I have thought this was going to occur. Had I known I would have taken far better care of myself lol.
When parents are truly found unfit...grand parents must step up to the plate...or aunts and uncles and perhaps even step moms...someone must.

I am not biased to gps at all...I do not knit, I work, I do not bake I work, the movie called: babyboom comes to mind....in fact some say I look like Diane Keaton. The problem is I look like she looks today...not 20 yrs. ago when that movie came out. lol

I do apologize to those that think this of me though. On another thread there is someone that says: grandparents must be there to protect the children of those few cases where the parents are found unfit. Only we don't plan this...nor should we be "outcasted" when it occurs and treated poorly. After all we love the children too you know. So much.

We parents love our children too. My mom's favorite is that "I raised mine, now it's your turn." If you knew what was happening in my case your head would spin. I have been in litigation for 2 years now. I was sued by my XFIL and his wife all because I wouldn't let them have the children when they wanted, didn't matter that it was my bday, that my parents wanted to see them too, their father deserved his time with them, NOPE, didn't matter.

 

[nextwife]

quote: Grandparent visitation rights are a VERY sensitive subject for a lot of people, myself included. You are obviously biased to gps

Correct on all of what you have said except for the above...I have 3 other grand children...they are just fine with great parents. Never in a million years would I have thought this was going to occur. Had I known I would have taken far better care of myself lol.
When parents are truly found unfit...grand parents must step up to the plate...or aunts and uncles and perhaps even step moms...someone must.

I am not biased to gps at all...I do not knit, I work, I do not bake I work, the movie called: babyboom comes to mind....in fact some say I look like Diane Keaton. The problem is I look like she looks today...not 20 yrs. ago when that movie came out. lol

I do apologize to those that think this of me though. On another thread there is someone that says: grandparents must be there to protect the children of those few cases where the parents are found unfit. Only we don't plan this...nor should we be "outcasted" when it occurs and treated poorly. After all we love the children too you know. So much.

Good thing hubby and I are fit parents, because Keaton and hubby were born the SAME year, and we sure couldn't rely on GRANDparents to take over for us.

Kiddo has been indoctrinated to know that she'd better finish grad school and have a great job BEFORE kids, 'cause me and her daddy are NO WAY going to be bailing her out and caring for her children.

 

[nextwife]

We parents love our children too. My mom's favorite is that "I raised mine, now it's your turn."

OMG!

You sure your mom wasn't MY mom?

I musta heard "I already did that" a hundred times. Mom made it VERY clear my whole childhood that my kids would be entirely my financial and care responsibiliy.

 

[Hannah13]

now see...that is just plain wrong...when the parents are raising them they come first...when they need a baby sitter the grandparents should get to be called upon first. (imho) then a babysitter if necessary. That's what "grandparents" are for...to support the parents, back up the parents, give advise when asked for it...believe it or not I do wait to be asked regarding my other grand children.

 

[Rushia]

OMG!

You sure your mom wasn't MY mom?

I musta heard "I already did that" a hundred times. Mom made it VERY clear my whole childhood that my kids would be entirely my financial and care responsibiliy.

I cringe while saying this cause I love you nexie and I don't want you to smack me around, but I think that you're old enough to be MY mom.

 

[jbowman]

oooo SNAP

 

[Rushia]

now see...that is just plain wrong...when the parents are raising them they come first...when they need a baby sitter the grandparents should get to be called upon first. (imho) then a babysitter if necessary. That's what "grandparents" are for...to support the parents, back up the parents, give advise when asked for it...believe it or not I do wait to be asked regarding my other grand children.

Not according to these people or most of the gp's that sue. You are in a very small section of gps that obviously NEEDED to step in. These people never even had custody of their own children, didn't raise them day to day and yet have the audacity to believe that they are the better parents.

 

[Rushia]

oooo SNAP

As I said, I don't want to get smacked around! I was trying to be funny. hmmm outside of me and my mother, women get upset about their ages.

 

[Hannah13]

oh yes...my mother too...she wouldn't even baby sit when I needed a babysitter. In fact...she would shoo us out of the house when they were very young if they began acting up saying: I've done this already...I'm too old for this, I can't take it. lol
I understood. There are many kinds of grandparents.
My driving force and ability is running on pure love for this child. I get tired...I worry. However I feel a multi. since of duty here. One to Mom, one to Dad and to BE grandparents.
It is hard to separate "being able to spoil the grand children syndrome" there is no one there to give them back to when we have...We didn't even realize we were spoiling him until recently. Arrrrgh...our living room looks like a daycare ctr. you would think we were one.

Well...take care of your babies...congrats on doing right with the parent/parents in being good parents. I did 2 out of 3...I know...not good.
Just got a call from dad...he's fighting with his girl friend and wants to bring him home early from visitation...see ya' all in 2 weeks I suppose.

 

[Bloopy]

Long time friends of my family are raising three grandkids with full custody. Parental right of both parents are terminated. They tried and tried to get their daughter back on her feet and to remain with her children. But she was far-gone and a continuous danger to herself and her children. They had no choice but to at least save the children.

They didn’t think it was right for their daughter to be so damaged and continuing to make babies. They decided to bribe her to get her tubes tied. Scary and sad for them because they knew good and well what she would do with the money. She was happy to accept.

This wasn’t a suggestion. Just saying I really sympathize with grandparents facing the need to save their grandchildren.

 

[LdiJ]

As I said, I don't want to get smacked around! I was trying to be funny. hmmm outside of me and my mother, women get upset about their ages.

Heck, I am old enough to be your mother....and I think that I am about the same age, plus or minus a couple of years, as Nexi.

 

[jbowman]

I knew Nextwife wouldnt get mad. She's one of the good ones.

 

[Hannah13]

Bloopy

(QUOTE) They didn’t think it was right for their daughter to be so damaged and continuing to make babies. They decided to bribe her to get her tubes tied. Scary and sad for them because they knew good and well what she would do with the money. She was happy to accept.

excellent move...I would have never thought of that but will pass this advise to my inlaws. I have a brother and sister in law 2 doors up...their daughter (same age as my own) has lost custody one by one of all 3 of her kids due to drugs thru the system with CPS...Both sides grandparents have guardianship of 1 each and even a set of the GREAT grandparents for 1 of them. The upside is that all the kids get to be together regularly thru their sharing system all of these grand parents created to help EACH OTHER out...We all had them for xmas celebration etc...The mom just got out of prison for stealing great grandma's car and various other drug caused issues she has done...She actually believed that the day she got out that all of her children were going to "miraculously" be handed back to her immediately with no means to support them or herself besides welfare...So what has she done and ON PURPOSE??? AGAIN?? Yep....pregnant again. It's for welfare money. It is sickening to the entire well knit family we have. The last child she had...it is an absolute miracle she is fully formed and healthy. Mom did not even know she WAS prenant nor did she even show till her 7th month and she was born a crack addict baby.
Thank Goodness my in-laws are a very tight loving family and there are 7 of us that live in a row on 1 acre parcels with 18 acres of park like setting for all to use. This has it's ups and downs but more ups...being all neighbors.