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Safarimonkey

Junior Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Va

My daughter and I were hit on a crosswalk a few days ago. I have a tibial plateau fracture on my knee, and im awaiting surgery. Daughter had a concussion, fractured bone on skull that will heal on its own, no surgery required. I was told by the Dr i wont be able to use my leg for 12weeks and after the research i have done with this injury, people still suffer from it years later and even might need a knee replacement. Should i try to settle with the insurance company? Havent got the police report yet. Talked to a lawyer who said he can take the case for 33%, but im wondering if we will be able to cover wverything if the lawyer takes 33% as im not sure what the other driver's limits are. What are my alternatives? Thank you
 


adjusterjack

Senior Member
Should i try to settle with the insurance company? Havent got the police report yet.

You NEVER settle with the insurance company until you are fully recovered or have reached maximum medical improvement (MMI). If you reach MMI without being completely recovered then your claim may have to consider a permanent or long term partial disability.

Havent got the police report yet.

That's OK. They usually take 10-15 days before they are available. Your local time may vary.

Talked to a lawyer who said he can take the case for 33%, but i'm wondering if we will be able to cover everything if the lawyer takes 33% as i'm not sure what the other driver's limits are. What are my alternatives?

At the moment you can defer the decision about the lawyer because nothing will happen with the claim for a while because of the extent of the injuries. You can hire a lawyer at any time.

You can get a rough guess as to whether the driver has low or high liability limits by doing a rudimentary asset check. You can do it yourself, it's not difficult.

1 - What kind of car does he have? The newer the car and the more expensive the model the better the chance that he has more than minimum limits. If he drives a cheap old car, it tends to be the other way. But that's not the only thing you look at.

2 - When you get his home address look it up on Zillow to get an idea of the market value. The higher the value the better the chance that he has higher limits. However, then you have to find out if he owns it.

3 - Check the county property ownership records (County Recorder, Land Record Office - whatever it's called in VA). Check for his deeds and mortgage documents. You can often find out how much he paid for the house and how much the initial mortgage was for. A high down payment may also be a positive indication. A HELOC on top of a first mortgage, not so much.

4 - Drive by his house evenings and weekends and see what other cars are parked there.

5 - See if he's on Facebook or any other social media. You can learn a lot about his family, job and life style. Google his name and phone number separately. Other stuff might come up.

Once you do all that stuff feel free to come back to this thread and discuss. You've got time. No need to make any decisions too quickly.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
For injuries of this magnitude, and especially if your child is a minor (you didn't say), you don't want to negotiate with the insurance company yourself.
 

Safarimonkey

Junior Member
Thank you everyone. To answer a few questions, yes my child is a minor. I finally got the police report, driver is insured with Nationwide, I googled his address, home value is average for the area $360k bought 2 years ago, can't reslly find anything though when I google his name ( he's 60) , not much of an online presence and he was driving a 2012 Toyota Corolla. How do I find out what his policy limits are? The police report stated driver admitted he was looking down on his phone when he hit us ughhhh
 
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Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
I wouldn't necessarily put too much stock in the car's value. Many older well-to-do people don't drive high-end cars. They are smart with their money.
 

InsuranceGuy

Junior Member
NEVER Deal With Defendant's Insurance Rep in a Serious Case

So I just call his insurance, ask for a claim dept and ask for the policy limit? His insurance has not contacted me


Unfortunately, your situation involves serious injuries and is not a minor fender-bender with no personal injury. The extent of your injuries, and the costs to deal with them, the recovery time, and determining any resulting disfigurement, or long term issues (the ability to work and limitations are a LONG ways off. Although your daughter now seems okay, issues may develop in the future, including PTSD. You're not in any position to settle anything now.

If you call to ask policy limits you're likely to be asked questions and anything you say to the very nice insurance adjuster or claims rep -- even politely responding to a "how are you today?" or "Getting some rest? Feeling any better?" -- will likely be recorded or noted by the insurance company and potentially be used against you down the road in mitigation of damages.

Indeed, the very fact that you called and asked for financially related information just might be used by the defense at a trial in an attempt to show right from the start you were more concerned with the money you would recover than is appropriate, allowing them to try to paint you as a money grubbing type of person, or possibly a malingerer or even a fraudster -- the type of person who just may have been careless or trying to get hit to obtain a big recovery! Yes, it happens.

In Virginia, as I recall, even the slightest bit of negligence on the part of the claimant would serve to bar any recovery. By calling the insurer you're just opening yourself up to huge disappointment down the road. In fact in any major claim situation dealing directly with the insurer is a terrible, terrible mistake. the individual claimant will never get as high an offer as a lawyer can get, and where there is a lawyer for the claimant involved, the insurer usually factors the need for the injured party to pay a lawyer's fee into the amount of its settlement offer.

Virginia requires drivers to carry policies providing a minimum of $25,000 of liability insurance coverage -- $50,000 if more than one person is injured. You also likely have your own auto insurance, and that likely provides uninsured / underinsured coverage which would be cumulative to the other driver's. To the extent that the other driver's policy was inadequate, your own policy typically steps in to help make up the difference to the extent of your UM/UIM. (That is why it is wise for ALL drivers to maximize their UM/MIM -- it costs a bit more in premium each year but boy is that money well spent -- just in case something happens, as it has to you.

Also, the other driver may have separate umbrella coverage -- so just learning the policy limit on the car insurance could be misleading. Further, every competent lawyer looks to see if someone else in addition to the driver may be liable as well, such as the driver's spouse, or the driver's employer (as if the driver might have been picking up mail for his employer, or running an errand for a third party at the time of the accident. Just getting the amount of coverage on his auto policy could be wholly meaningless.

A good lawyer tries to ascertain the target defendant's net worth early on -- and has far better resources for doing so than you would -- including how much could be levied upon in the future, and what could be done so the defendant doesn't start hiding or disposing of assets.

I hope you recover quickly, and that you and your daughter have no residual issues. But by all means get the best personal injury lawyer in the surrounding few counties that you can find. By the way, while 1/3rd is often the "standard," contingency fee arrangements with lawyers can be negotiated. Yours is a very serious case, and the involvement of a minor makes this all the more serious. If you are worried that a 33-1/3% fee will take too much of the money you'd otherwise be getting, the lawyer may agree to a sliding scale arrangement -- such as 20% of the first $25k, 33% on the next $75k and 40% on the balance. Whether that would work out better for you than a straight 33-1/3% is anyone's guess, but were i you, I'd rather pay a higher percentage to a really good personal injury lawyer than a lower percentage to a mediocre lawyer or one operating in a Personal Injury Mill that churns them and burns them and is looking to do the least amount of work for the fastest recovery and where turnover is the name of the game.
 

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