I do not agree with the laws!

[Oh man]

I just don't agree with the laws. The children need Food, water, electric, clothes and things like that.

What does a kid really need?

Month: His part monthly with 3 ppl in house, X-wife and stepfather
$100.00 Food "he doesn't need steak or to eat out every night"
His part of Utility Bills
$50.00 Elec/water= $150.00 elec bill
$30.00 clothes "doesn't need Tommy Hilfig" Old Navy will work
$30.00 Cable/Phone "he doesn't need call waiting or the Cable Gold package with HBO" $90.00 Cable and phone bill.
$20.00 supplies "Soap, TP and so on"

$230.00 let us just ad $70.00 for whatevers or what I may have missed.

$300.00
$100.00 added for the extra rent an extra bedroom cost.
Mother still would have rent but one less bedroom with out kid.

$400.00
So if CS is to pay 1/2 of the kids exspensies we cut that down to
$200.00 a month.
Daycare $400.00 split in 1/2
$200.00

Total $400.00

Now let us say his mom lives in a $200,000 house.
The kid does not need a $200,000 house but the mon chooses to live there for her own pleasure. That should be on her
The kid doesn't need HBO, Stars and so on. That should be on her.

Anything more then $400.00 a month per kid is a little greedy!
i DON'T SEE HOW ONE PARENT CAN PAY $700.00 FOR 1 KID.
You telling me it costs $1,400 a month to raise that child? Sure in some cases but in general. Hell, you give me $1,400 a month and I will raise any kid "in general" for that. Heck, give me 3 kids and $4,200 and I will live of that as well.

 

[BelizeBreeze]

Take this to a complaint site. This forum is for LEGAL issues, NOT rants. Your questions have been answered in your other post.

 

[no$$4us]

I do not agree with the laws

Wow
I guess you do not believe that the child needs a life.
I guess you believe that the wife should only have the minimum standard of housing possible.
Household
cleaning supplies, towels, soap, shampoo,bedding furniture
Electricity, phone,gas, electric
lawn care, pesticides or bug spray or swatters,
maintenance of house repairs and up keep
pots, pans, dishes
etc
clothing, haircuts,special occasion clothes, costumes, parties dances
sports uniforms--sports fees--treat for sporting events.
school field trips fee--obligations for supplies for projects at school paper pencils calculators books notebook etc stapler
parties--birthday for them and friends
money for chores to go to movies, or arcade or mall to hang out
gas for car for rides to functions, repair bill to keep car up to speed regular maintenance for vehicle--
braces, glasses, medical bills(colds, bumps bruises, injuries)
photographs from school from sports,
computer or access to computer--gas for car to go to library
tutoring if needed and prep courses for college
emergency funds, insurance,child care


AM I GETTING CLOSE

 

[audster]

hmmmmm ok let me dive in here....held tounge for a while with this one! BTW No$$4us did you possibly go by the name PrettyRedHead once....maybe your just related....ohWell! I know it can be expensive to raise a child(ren) but (as I would reply to every other CP that wants to b**ch about ex no tpaying enough) WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get over it already! If ya think it's too expensive to raise yopur child, and just cannot survive without the ex's payment, maybe you should consider signing kids over to ex and give him a turn to be CP!

 

[no$$4us]

not agreeing with the law

That is funny that you would ask about me. I have only came to this site yesterday by chance.
I am only stressing the reality of what I must justify each time child support enforcement sends me paperwork to fill out. I went to the general list and left out a bunch more.
The guy was asking how child support could be justified in paying $700 a month for one child and I tried to elaborate.
I think you have seen my posts.
While my ex was hiding I put my children in private school, I alone have paid for their broken arm, ear infections and currently braces on both and eye glasses for one. By the way he is obligated to pay half but has not.
And yes I just took him to court last month for everything that is back due and owing and I still have not asked for an increase even though his salary went from $40,000 to $90,000. He did try to ask for a reduction. He did try to get his own parental rights removed and he does have suspended driver's license and he does have 2 warrants for his arrest. It is amazing what you can learn on the internet. HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HE lost big time.

 

[Oh man]

Wow
I guess you do not believe that the child needs a life.
I guess you believe that the wife should only have the minimum standard of housing possible.
Household
cleaning supplies, towels, soap, shampoo,bedding furniture
Electricity, phone,gas, electric
lawn care, pesticides or bug spray or swatters,
maintenance of house repairs and up keep
pots, pans, dishes
etc
clothing, haircuts,special occasion clothes, costumes, parties dances
sports uniforms--sports fees--treat for sporting events.
school field trips fee--obligations for supplies for projects at school paper pencils calculators books notebook etc stapler
parties--birthday for them and friends
money for chores to go to movies, or arcade or mall to hang out
gas for car for rides to functions, repair bill to keep car up to speed regular maintenance for vehicle--
braces, glasses, medical bills(colds, bumps bruises, injuries)
photographs from school from sports,
computer or access to computer--gas for car to go to library
tutoring if needed and prep courses for college
emergency funds, insurance,child care


AM I GETTING CLOSE

No I understand but let us put it this way:
What does he need?
Child support should be for what the child needs and not what he or the "X spouse wants"
I want to see my son every day but I don't need that. The courts don't issue that request!
I want a computer but I don't need one
The car is the spouse, regardless of the son or not he or she would still have a car and need to keep it up. The child needs to get around but I am not going to charge my own son to rid in my car so why should I charge the spouse. Something the parent "just does" because it is his or her son and out love love.
You would have to buy pots and pans and many other things if one had a child or not. I have a son with my current wife and honestly, HONESTLY it doesn't cost even $400.00 a month to raise him. SO when I have to pay $400.00 a month just for 1/2 my other Childs expenses..... I get annoyed. $800.00 to raise my other son a month. I take my son now with my current wife out to eat at least once a week, to the zoo, downtown and different activities; I don't see a jump in electric or water with him. He has new shoes and clothes and is a really happy kid, I don't spend more then $150.00 on him in a month.

sure as he gets older it will go up but CS should be to cover what he needs and the actual cost % of it and maybe $50.00 added for movies or whatever. It is the choice of the mother if she lives in Hollywood or Austin. If she drives a BMW or Ford when a KIA will do the same thing. I am not saying the kid should live in slums but the X shouldn't pay because the X spouce lives it up.
If 1 kid can get $300.00 a months then all CS should be $300.00 a month. CS shouldn't be so the spouce can live it up with nice things. The state should say for amount 1 kid needs to survive is so and so and add $50.00 for whatever and all.

Let us just say this, if it was the state who had to pay us they would have a set limit and how much do you think we would get for 1 child? Do you think the state would give a parent $700.00 per child? It is all good to charge a person so much but if it comes out of the states pocket then they will limit and lower payments

 

[no$$4us]

agree with the laws

Welfare is calculated by the similar standards and I am only saying this to give you a societies view of human value.
When a person is not getting support from former spouse they do get government help and that is similar in value to child support.
WE are also a country that completely is behind in valuing human life versus other highly civilized countries.
Social services and monies for disabled are far less valued in the state and federal budgets.
You are probably paying a larger percentage than my ex will ever pay.
Currently he is paying an 1/8 of his salary for his kids and I'll bet that every spare dollar he has is going to enjoy his lifestyle not helping with his kids future. He does not send gifts or cards to his kids --no contact in 8 years.
I am sorry for ranting but I have listened to CS for 10 years and I have heard many cases.

 

[Oh man]

And one other thing I must say:

For one reason or another one parent will lose a battle for keeping the kid"s".

So I believe that something should be put more on the custodial parent then the non. The cust parent can. play, grow with the child and do everything with that child and he or she grows old well 90% of the time "in may cases" the NON parent is out of the childs life because of one reason or another. "where the parents live, visitation rights and so on. So one parent pays all this money and still is not really much in the childs life. Sure this isn't true for all cases but if a parent has the kid they should put up a little more VS a parent who can be shut out except on Hollidays and so on.

 

[Theresia]

To Oh Man....I understand fully what you're talking about. My husband pays $600 a month for one child. He pays for his insurance on eyes, health, dental, etc. She will hit us up every time for half of the $15 co-pay. He also paid half of his catholic school tuition IN ADDITION to child support for nine years. His son didn't want to go there, but good ole Christian mommy went there and that was that. The same woman who used to torment a physically handicapped girl in junior high by kicking her crutches out from under her. Christian who goes to communion every week and then continues her evil ways the other six days a week. My husband has also been hit up to pay for his son's upcoming band trip to the tune of $800 in addition to child support because HELLO she spends so much money on herself there's nothing left for the kid. She charges for school pictures, sports pictures, etc. She buys his clothes at discount stores so she can wear the Tommy Hilfiger. We have bought clothes for him, he wears them home, she never returns them. We've tried to have him live with us because she is extremely verbal around him about how much she hates his dad and me. He won't live with us because he doesn't want to hurt her feelings yet thinks nothing of hurting his dad's feelings when she calls us (on my husband's days with his son) to get back home to babysit his little sister for her. He's 15 and my husband isn't forcing the issue anymore. Anyway, I understand your frustration when the CP is constantly bettering themselves while we barely pay the bills. There are very good CP's out there, no doubt. I just happen to be one. Voluntarily took a reduction in child support when my ex-husband's business folded. I was only getting $300 a month for two kids then! I had to work two jobs to pay bills and raise my two kids, and my husband's ex doesn't even work! Just hang in there, it's only a temporary situation. She won't get that the rest of her life, then she'll know what it's like to do without things like you must have. I had to accept it and it sucks!

 

[Reena9]

I Agree!

I am there with you on that one...the laws are ridiculous and women can really take advantage of men! My boyfriend slept with a women a year ago that wasn't on birth control unknown to him (of course he should have used protection too) and she got prego! It was a one night stand and she wants child support. Great deal for her...who makes $8 an hour and my boyfriend makes 100,000 G a year. So he is going to have to pay $1600 a month! He doesn't even know the kid, they never even had a relationship and he didn't want a child. The whole thing sucks. I think she saw $$ and decided to have a kid with daddy's money to support her. You do not need $1600 to raise a child!!! So insane! So that takes away from out future family as well...so what I am wondering is where are our rights.

 

[tigger22472]

I am there with you on that one...the laws are ridiculous and women can really take advantage of men! My boyfriend slept with a women a year ago that wasn't on birth control unknown to him (of course he should have used protection too) and she got prego! It was a one night stand and she wants child support. Great deal for her...who makes $8 an hour and my boyfriend makes 100,000 G a year. So he is going to have to pay $1600 a month! He doesn't even know the kid, they never even had a relationship and he didn't want a child. The whole thing sucks. I think she saw $$ and decided to have a kid with daddy's money to support her. You do not need $1600 to raise a child!!! So insane! So that takes away from out future family as well...so what I am wondering is where are our rights.

Ya know, I read this... wasn't going to respond and even left this thread.. but I couldn't resist...

ARE YOU FOR REAL??

 

[stealth2]

Oh, come on, tigs... sure she's for real. And real pissed off that some of her b/f's cash flow is going to go for his baby.

 

[kat1963]

Then get off your pity pot Nancy & start doing something about it. Geezzz. I'm SICK of the crying already!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you think for one minute that your post here made ONE SINGLE SHREAD of difference? HECK NO. Put your energy into something more constructive like changing the laws...or sit back & shut up.
KAT
edit: spelling

 

[tigger22472]

Reena.. if you have something to say.. there's no need to PM me on this issue..

yes I am

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I am for real. you don't know all the facts to make assumptions. This women has accussed my finance of rape. They slept together three times...once without protection. She works at Jamba Juice...he works on wall street. He comes from a very well known weathly background. She obviously figured it out and is taking it to her advantage.

Explain to me how it's a 'one night' stand as you claimed before and now he had sex with her three times? You're lying aside you tend to forget that it's not just her responsibility to use protection, it's hers too... he played and now he's paying for that bad choce...

 

[Reena9]

the real deal

Let me make this picture clearer...this is my finance. He cheated on me and some women got prenant. I am upset that OUR cashflow might go to go to some women who also didn't take responsiblity. Still don't even know it is his kid and we can't find that out because of her stupid allegations or rape,which is a total joke. I still am not sure I am going to marry the guy. She is taking full advantage of his money and his family name...who have a ton of money. I am bitter...but I do believe as a woman you need to take responsibility and USE protection!