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I Think This is Child Molestation!

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worldpce

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What is the name of your state?CA.
After her last visit with her father and his wife, my 8yr old daughter said "I ran fast and locked the door, and wouldn't let her in" We began talking and she went into detail about the wife goes in the bathroom when she is almost done and preceeds to take cups of water and pour them over her vagina and bottom, then uses her bare hands to clean her. The wife states "you have to make sure your clean", this is what we do in the Phillipines.Obviously, my little girl is very uncomfortable with this situation and now locks the door and says she's only washing her hands.I'm sick to my stomach.What are my options ,besides kicking the wifes ass?
 


LdiJ

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worldpce said:
What is the name of your state?CA.
After her last visit with her father and his wife, my 8yr old daughter said "I ran fast and locked the door, and wouldn't let her in" We began talking and she went into detail about the wife goes in the bathroom when she is almost done and preceeds to take cups of water and pour them over her vagina and bottom, then uses her bare hands to clean her. The wife states "you have to make sure your clean", this is what we do in the Phillipines.Obviously, my little girl is very uncomfortable with this situation and now locks the door and says she's only washing her hands.I'm sick to my stomach.What are my options ,besides kicking the wifes ass?

That may possibly be the way that they clean themselves in the Phillipines. It also may be the way that they teach children to clean themselves as well. I would do some research on that if possible before accusing the stepmom of molestation. I agree however that its COMPLETELY wrong in our society for stepmom to be doing that. If your research indicates that is normal in the Phillipines then talk to dad before you make it a molestation case.

I am leaving the above paragraph in my response.....just so that you can see my initial reaction....but after looking back over your post again....and realizing that your child is 8, not 4 or 5...this probably deserves a call to CPS.
 

casa

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worldpce said:
What is the name of your state?CA.
After her last visit with her father and his wife, my 8yr old daughter said "I ran fast and locked the door, and wouldn't let her in" We began talking and she went into detail about the wife goes in the bathroom when she is almost done and preceeds to take cups of water and pour them over her vagina and bottom, then uses her bare hands to clean her. The wife states "you have to make sure your clean", this is what we do in the Phillipines.Obviously, my little girl is very uncomfortable with this situation and now locks the door and says she's only washing her hands.I'm sick to my stomach.What are my options ,besides kicking the wifes ass?

That would be my initial reaction. :mad:

Definately contact Children's Services if not also the police department. I would further initiate court proceedings for a temporary restraining order to stop any visitation/contact in that home until further investigation is completed. (This is after speaking with a friend from the Phillipines)
 

dallas702

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You people have NO idea what can happen if you overreact on this. CS can take the girl...and any other children away from BOTH homes until they "figure it out". That can take many months and result in the child(ren) being placed in foster care. I have seen this happen dozens of times...especially if the other parent retaliates by saying that YOU are doing the molesting (or some other form of abuse).

You never know how CS will react....unless you're in Florida, where they apparently do nothing to protect children.

For crying out loud...GO TALK TO THE WOMAN. It's probably a cultural thing. I can't recall it with any of the PI women I've known during quite a few years in the military, but then I didn't exactly ask them. Make sure there's not a problem with your daughter's hygiene habits. Most American parents "walk away" from the bathroom after the kids seem to get it right...at about age 4. So, maybe she needs some refresher teaching. You're gonna have to do it again in a few short years when she reaches puberty anyway.

Talk to your EX. That's what mature parents are supposed to do----communicate!
 

LdiJ

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dallas702 said:
You people have NO idea what can happen if you overreact on this. CS can take the girl...and any other children away from BOTH homes until they "figure it out". That can take many months and result in the child(ren) being placed in foster care. I have seen this happen dozens of times...especially if the other parent retaliates by saying that YOU are doing the molesting (or some other form of abuse).

You never know how CS will react....unless you're in Florida, where they apparently do nothing to protect children.

For crying out loud...GO TALK TO THE WOMAN. It's probably a cultural thing. I can't recall it with any of the PI women I've known during quite a few years in the military, but then I didn't exactly ask them. Make sure there's not a problem with your daughter's hygiene habits. Most American parents "walk away" from the bathroom after the kids seem to get it right...at about age 4. So, maybe she needs some refresher teaching. You're gonna have to do it again in a few short years when she reaches puberty anyway.

Talk to your EX. That's what mature parents are supposed to do----communicate!

This isn't any easy situation...notice my first response. I started to answer one way and then changed my mind.

While I understand your point of view....and while things like that do sometimes happen, this child is 8 years old and is very clear on what is upsetting her.....and its a very specific act. There is no ambiguity. If the OP has primary custody there is very little chance that CPS would yank the child out of both homes.

If the OP does not have primary custody then there is some risk that the child might have to go to foster care temporarily.

Talking to either dad or his wife could have serious repercussions for the child....without any backup protection for the child. Plus, it may be literally impossible for the stepmom to grasp that her actions are not acceptable....unless she hears it from someone in authority. The child could be badgered and intimidated into recanting..................or, dad could take it seriously, and make his wife stop doing that (assuming that dad doesn't already know).

In general, if molestation is an issue, warning the molester of potential action........while the molester still has access to the child........ is NOT generally wise.

I agree that there could be some cultural issues at play here...but the child is 8, not 4 or 5........even with cultural issues at play that shouldn't be happening.

I have been down that path with "cultural issues". Not with my own child, but with my husband's niece. In her parent's culture its perfectly acceptable to slap a child, HARD, across the face (in public no less) as a form of discipline. They (the parents at least) also think its perfectly acceptable to have sex while their child is sleeping in the same bed with them (arg).

They came to this country and lived with me for six months. I could NOT convince them that either issue was a problem. I couldn't even get them to understand the concept of "mandated reporter". They eventually went back home and took the problem with them.
 

dallas702

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I don't disagree with what you've said, but I'd still give the dad ONE opportunity to fix the problem there. Perhaps an independent counselor who deals with this issue could interview the girl. Kids do make up things for various reasons. Hmmmm, actually any counselor would have to report the situation if she really thought abuse occurred. That would take it out of the hands of the mother. and would keep the ex and step from blaming her (has consequences too).

Still.....CPS is an extreme move without more info.
 

kat1963

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Many in the Philippines still live in extreme poverty. They don’t have running water much less disposable paper products.
KAT
 

MominNJ

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All I can say is TRUST YOUR GUT. When it comes to your children ALWAYS TRUST YOUR GUT.
And who really cares if it is "custom" in another country? I'm sure this woman is familiar with American custom unless she is FOB.
It's also "custom" in BRAZIL to expose young children to sexual behavior. So if they come over here from Brazil, it's acceptable to expose OUR children to sexual behavior?
NO.
 

BL

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I have heard from the OP in it's initial post .

Besides kick her ass ?

There goes the culture thing ?

PLEASE be advised this is AMERICA . You swear to the Oath of Americas Laws & Rules .

Want to disobey them , then suffer the Consequences .

Run this by MOM one time . If it happens again Call CPS .

Explain to your Daughter that what mom has been doing is the Culture and normal in that Country , But we are in AMERICA now and it is not tolerated .
 

stealth2

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Blonde Lebinese said:
I have heard from the OP in it's initial post .

Besides kick her ass ?

There goes the culture thing ?

PLEASE be advised this is AMERICA . You swear to the Oath of Americas Laws & Rules .

Want to disobey them , then suffer the Consequences .

Run this by MOM one time . If it happens again Call CPS .

Explain to your Daughter that what mom has been doing is the Culture and normal in that Country , But we are in AMERICA now and it is not tolerated .

BL.... that's one of your more incomprehensible posts! For starters - isn't it STEPMOM who is doing this, not Mom?
 

BelizeBreeze

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stealth2 said:
BL.... that's one of your more incomprehensible posts! For starters - isn't it STEPMOM who is doing this, not Mom?
Not so incomprehensible if you realize this is a DUPLICATE POST...
 
I am speaking from experience when I say this ... notify the POLICE and CPS immediately. It is always best to err on the side of your child in these types of instances; because I promise you the system will be sure that they do.

If you're child goes to school and tells a counselor this and the counselor reports it to CPS then you are faced with "why didn't YOU do anything about this to protect your child", and that could jeopardize your custody more than if you called them! There is little chance of CPS taking your child out of your home if the abuse is not happening there and you are showing them that YOU are doing everything you can, and that you are willing to do anything, to protect your child.

Go get a RESTRAINING ORDER against this woman keeping her away from your child. Contact an attorney regarding dad's visitation schedule. And do not let your child go back to that home again unless CPS tells you that it is okay.

Cultural differences or not this is the United States of America and that behavior is far from acceptable. All citizens are bound by the laws whether they know them or not or whether they understand them or not. Ignorance is no defense when it comes to the law. Aside from that there are always instances where immigrants "play dumb" if they know they got caught f-n' up! You never know! But PROTECT YOUR CHILD (AND YOUR RIGHTS).

My experience with this sort of a case was with my neice in Arizona so California may very well be different but personally I would cover my ass and protect my child. Everyone else's feelings and cultures can be figured out later!
 

BL

Senior Member
stealth2 said:
BL.... that's one of your more incomprehensible posts! For starters - isn't it STEPMOM who is doing this, not Mom?


I stand corrected Step - Mom .

I was simply pointing out that American Laws or different from other Country's Cultural ways .

When Persons came to live in America , they must Follow American Laws , or suffer the consequences .

I was also advising on how to explain this to the Child , and give a warning to Dad & step mom or else .
 
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Ah, thanks rmet for the info but I personally would still cover my ass and report it if this was my child. I'd want to make sure CPS heard it from me and not a school counselor if I had knowledge of it. (If the post is true)

OP - so is this even your child you are talking about?
 
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