LegalBeagle
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Has someone hi-jacked your user, or are you really posting on the CS board?
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IAAL - You sick?
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LegalBeagle
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HomeGuru said:
Our pal IAAL feels the same way about *that* board as he does about Step Mothers.. I just waiting for him to post that he has fallen in love with a SM and will only answer their questions in the future..
I AM ALWAYS LIABLE
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LegalBeagle said:
My response:
Only YOU would notice my indiscretion. Sometimes, I scout that Board for interesting issues. Mostly, they're not interesting and I hate the whimpering.
But, that was funny and I thank you for my morning laugh !
IAAL
LegalBeagle
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Oh no.. you actually read some of the crap that I post on there? ...
I actually found it funny that you did one of your 17 page replies on *that* board. Kinda like buying 'War and Peace' for the Kindergarden class..
I actually found it funny that you did one of your 17 page replies on *that* board. Kinda like buying 'War and Peace' for the Kindergarden class..
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morning_angel
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and LB......crap? well, I'm shocked...stunned...disillusioned...*sigh*LegalBeagle [/i][b] Our pal IAAL feels the same way about *that* board as he does about Step Mothers.. I just waiting for him to post that he has fallen in love with a SM and will only answer their questions in the future.. [/B][/QUOTE] IAAL I knew about your disdain for the CS board said:
[Edited by morning_angel on 07-28-2001 at 04:29 PM]
I AM ALWAYS LIABLE
Senior Member
My response:
Morning Angel, I think you have "somewhat" misunderstood.
First, and foremost, I do not hate or dislike LB. Quite the opposite. LB and I are good buddies on the boards. Like I've said before, LB and I are similar to "Siskel & Ebert" of movie critic fame. Those two argued with each other, and they agreed with each other too. But, more importantly, they were good friends.
Second, I do not hate Stepmothers. There is a place for them. In a corner, and remaining silent. Stepmothers (and stepfathers) "think" they have legal rights when it comes to other people's children. They don't.
As such, there is NO REASON for any "Steppers" to be asking questions on a law site.
I have Steppers come into my offices quite often. When they start talking, I politely ask them to be quiet. If they insist on talking, and making claims, or give me their opinion why they should be talking and interfering, I ask them to leave. When still they don't leave, I call security and the police to have them escorted out and / or arrested.
Steppers have no business talking. They don't have valid opinions. And, anything I say to their spouses does not impact Steppers unless they choose to stick their noses where it doesn't belong.
IAAL
Morning Angel, I think you have "somewhat" misunderstood.
First, and foremost, I do not hate or dislike LB. Quite the opposite. LB and I are good buddies on the boards. Like I've said before, LB and I are similar to "Siskel & Ebert" of movie critic fame. Those two argued with each other, and they agreed with each other too. But, more importantly, they were good friends.
Second, I do not hate Stepmothers. There is a place for them. In a corner, and remaining silent. Stepmothers (and stepfathers) "think" they have legal rights when it comes to other people's children. They don't.
As such, there is NO REASON for any "Steppers" to be asking questions on a law site.
I have Steppers come into my offices quite often. When they start talking, I politely ask them to be quiet. If they insist on talking, and making claims, or give me their opinion why they should be talking and interfering, I ask them to leave. When still they don't leave, I call security and the police to have them escorted out and / or arrested.
Steppers have no business talking. They don't have valid opinions. And, anything I say to their spouses does not impact Steppers unless they choose to stick their noses where it doesn't belong.
IAAL
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crystal2
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Well, I'm glad you're not my lawyer
I AM ALWAYS LIABLE
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crystal2 said:
My response:
Well, I'm not everyone's cup 'o tea, that's for sure. But, those that stick with me and my firm, win their cases. And, that's the bottom line.
IAAL
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crystal2
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I'm sure you are a good lawyer, and I know when I was a teenager I didnt want my stepparents involved in any decisions that had anything to do with me, but now that I am a stepmom, of course I feel differently
I AM ALWAYS LIABLE
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My response:
Crystal, I'm going to backpeddle ever so slightly with my opinion of Steppers.
When it comes to making decisions for, and with, your stepchildren within the four walls of your home, that's perfectly fine as far as I'm concerned. As an adult, you, as a Stepper, have EVERY right to make rules within your home, and EXPECT that those rules are followed by the children.
But, that's where it begins and ends. Once those children are outside the four walls of your home, and you feel the need, or the "right" to make decisions of a serious nature for them, then that's the time Steppers overstep their boundaries. And that's when trouble starts.
I happen to enjoy when my opponents allow their client's new wives or husbands (the steppers) to control them. That's when I'm able to shoot them down, and win. When an overbearing Stepper starts calling the shots, that's when my opponents have lost control and lost their client's case.
It happens all the time.
Steppers feel "empowered" during the litigation, but once they "help" to lose their spouse's case, that's when they finally shut up - - but, by that time it's too late.
Also, when you think about it, when a Stepper starts to call the shots, it's not the Stepper that has to live with that decision or the results. It's the real parent. Because, theoretically, Steppers can walk away from the situations they have created, leaving crap in their wake, and causing someone else to "live" with what they have caused - - and, all because they "feel" they have rights.
They don't.
If a new client comes to my office with their new spouse, who may also be a Stepper, the first thing I tell them is "the way it is" and that I don't want to hear a peep out of them. If they want to have "pillow talk" about the litigation, that's fine with me. Just don't call me, write to me, or butt into my conversations with MY client.
That's why I have control of my clients, and that's why I tell Steppers to shut up. If they don't like it, they can leave. And guess what ? There's always another client in my waiting room.
IAAL
Crystal, I'm going to backpeddle ever so slightly with my opinion of Steppers.
When it comes to making decisions for, and with, your stepchildren within the four walls of your home, that's perfectly fine as far as I'm concerned. As an adult, you, as a Stepper, have EVERY right to make rules within your home, and EXPECT that those rules are followed by the children.
But, that's where it begins and ends. Once those children are outside the four walls of your home, and you feel the need, or the "right" to make decisions of a serious nature for them, then that's the time Steppers overstep their boundaries. And that's when trouble starts.
I happen to enjoy when my opponents allow their client's new wives or husbands (the steppers) to control them. That's when I'm able to shoot them down, and win. When an overbearing Stepper starts calling the shots, that's when my opponents have lost control and lost their client's case.
It happens all the time.
Steppers feel "empowered" during the litigation, but once they "help" to lose their spouse's case, that's when they finally shut up - - but, by that time it's too late.
Also, when you think about it, when a Stepper starts to call the shots, it's not the Stepper that has to live with that decision or the results. It's the real parent. Because, theoretically, Steppers can walk away from the situations they have created, leaving crap in their wake, and causing someone else to "live" with what they have caused - - and, all because they "feel" they have rights.
They don't.
If a new client comes to my office with their new spouse, who may also be a Stepper, the first thing I tell them is "the way it is" and that I don't want to hear a peep out of them. If they want to have "pillow talk" about the litigation, that's fine with me. Just don't call me, write to me, or butt into my conversations with MY client.
That's why I have control of my clients, and that's why I tell Steppers to shut up. If they don't like it, they can leave. And guess what ? There's always another client in my waiting room.
IAAL
MY Opinion:
As a "stepper" I will tell you that I post here to learn about the legal process and to try and gather information that will help my husband deal with his legal issues as he is so weary of dealing with it himself. And yes to spout off every now and then, just as I have seen others do (yours truly as well). Sorry if we seem out of place to you and though we have no "legal right" we do have the right to be emotionally involved, to love the children and our spouse that is involved in the situation. We also have the right to be financially involved, by our own choice (which is more than some bios can say). So as annoying to you as we may be, I will continue in my quest for knowledge, because I love my whole family. It is pretty hard to disassociate yourself from the whole situation (in my case visitation at the moment), when I have a three year old at home crying because he doesn't understand why he can't see his brother (after talking to him on the phone about coming). So sorry am I whinning? I am glad it is easy for you to catagorize me and my place in this process, I just wish it was as easy said as done.
As a "stepper" I will tell you that I post here to learn about the legal process and to try and gather information that will help my husband deal with his legal issues as he is so weary of dealing with it himself. And yes to spout off every now and then, just as I have seen others do (yours truly as well). Sorry if we seem out of place to you and though we have no "legal right" we do have the right to be emotionally involved, to love the children and our spouse that is involved in the situation. We also have the right to be financially involved, by our own choice (which is more than some bios can say). So as annoying to you as we may be, I will continue in my quest for knowledge, because I love my whole family. It is pretty hard to disassociate yourself from the whole situation (in my case visitation at the moment), when I have a three year old at home crying because he doesn't understand why he can't see his brother (after talking to him on the phone about coming). So sorry am I whinning? I am glad it is easy for you to catagorize me and my place in this process, I just wish it was as easy said as done.
I AM ALWAYS LIABLE
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My response:
It's not that I don't empathize with you, it's just that you have no place in the "legal arena", and it's a choice you made by marrying someone with a child. But, that "choice" gives you no rights. That's what I'm saying. And that's why I refuse to respond to Steppers on this Board when I know it's a Stepper that's asking the questions.
And, like I said, when an opposing litigant's Stepper foists themselves into the legal arena, they cause trouble, and that's when I win the case for my client. By and large, when it comes to legal issues, Steppers want to take the emotional road to justice. That's not what law is about. And, law is not emotional. Once a client starts to allow their second (or subsequent) wife or husband to start calling the shots, or start getting emotional, that's the time I let them go.
It must be that way. And besides, if a Stepper doesn't feel appreciated or needed in the legal arena, they should see a priest or a shrink. I'm not paid to be a Stepper's "father confessor" or "guidence counselor". The law can be difficult as it is - - and I don't need Steppers to complicate matters.
IAAL
It's not that I don't empathize with you, it's just that you have no place in the "legal arena", and it's a choice you made by marrying someone with a child. But, that "choice" gives you no rights. That's what I'm saying. And that's why I refuse to respond to Steppers on this Board when I know it's a Stepper that's asking the questions.
And, like I said, when an opposing litigant's Stepper foists themselves into the legal arena, they cause trouble, and that's when I win the case for my client. By and large, when it comes to legal issues, Steppers want to take the emotional road to justice. That's not what law is about. And, law is not emotional. Once a client starts to allow their second (or subsequent) wife or husband to start calling the shots, or start getting emotional, that's the time I let them go.
It must be that way. And besides, if a Stepper doesn't feel appreciated or needed in the legal arena, they should see a priest or a shrink. I'm not paid to be a Stepper's "father confessor" or "guidence counselor". The law can be difficult as it is - - and I don't need Steppers to complicate matters.
IAAL
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crystal2
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Well, I posted a reply but its not here so I dont know what happened. I said that yes, I see your point that stepparents have the option to leave at any time. In my case, I have been involved in my stepchildren's lives since they were ages 3, 10 days, and unborn, so they are like my own. I realize they are really not my own, and when we have been in court I have never said anything at all. The only time I really speak up is when the ex tries to talk to my husband cause she is an idiot and she never says anything valid.