is cashing out a casino voucher really a crime?

[kingcuppie]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? PA
I got charged with theft by unlawful taking and receiving stolen proprety
for cashing out a $95 dollar voucher from a slot machine that someone left.
the complaint said the person asked me to watch the machine while they go to the bathroom and i felt the person was never coming back so i cashed it out. It almost feels like entrapment and how can someone just leave their voucher in a machine and be allowed to think no one wil sit there and play with it or take it. and i know, al lthe time peopel sit down to machien where some change is left in it and they arent charged with a crime for playing it or taking it so at what amount doe sit become a crime? and how do they know the person didnt say i could have it or owed me money. for them to just charge me without even interviewing me seems totally unjust.
so I just want to know if i have a good defense , that i thought the person just was never coming back as it was a while they were gone and that i see money left in machine all the time and no one is ever arrested for it.

 

[Zigner]

Ahhhhh, the old "finders keepers" logic.

 

[Antigone*]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? PA
I got charged with theft by unlawful taking and receiving stolen proprety
for cashing out a $95 dollar voucher from a slot machine that someone left.
the complaint said the person asked me to watch the machine while they go to the bathroom and i felt the person was never coming back so i cashed it out. It almost feels like entrapment and how can someone just leave their voucher in a machine and be allowed to think no one wil sit there and play with it or take it. and i know, al lthe time peopel sit down to machien where some change is left in it and they arent charged with a crime for playing it or taking it so at what amount doe sit become a crime? and how do they know the person didnt say i could have it or owed me money. for them to just charge me without even interviewing me seems totally unjust.
so I just want to know if i have a good defense , that i thought the person just was never coming back as it was a while they were gone and that i see money left in machine all the time and no one is ever arrested for it.

You did in fact commit a crime. You took what did not belong to you.

 

[kingcuppie]

worst advice site EVER

i NEVER get good advice here, meaning never get a good defense or someone to help defend me. theres ALWAYS two sides to criminal law, everyone here always acts for the prosecution. I cant and will not believe someone can leave a slot machine and if they dont come back for awhile, that it is illegal to play on that machine or cashout the credits. someone has to feel like i do.

 

[Proserpina]

i NEVER get good advice here, meaning never get a good defense or someone to help defend me. theres ALWAYS two sides to criminal law, everyone here always acts for the prosecution. I cant and will not believe someone can leave a slot machine and if they dont come back for awhile, that it is illegal to play on that machine or cashout the credits. someone has to feel like i do.

Translation:

I receive perfectly reasonable and correct legal advice, but nobody ever wants to help me defend my illegal actions. Drat, I say. Drat and double drat!

 

[Antigone*]

i NEVER get good advice here, meaning never get a good defense or someone to help defend me. theres ALWAYS two sides to criminal law, everyone here always acts for the prosecution. I cant and will not believe someone can leave a slot machine and if they dont come back for awhile, that it is illegal to play on that machine or cashout the credits. someone has to feel like i do.

Kingcuppie ~ you haven't changed!

all others...please check his posting history.

 

[Proserpina]

Kingcuppie ~ you haven't changed!

all others...please check his posting history.

I did

(teehee)

 

[justalayman]

i NEVER get good advice here, meaning never get a good defense or someone to help defend me. theres ALWAYS two sides to criminal law, everyone here always acts for the prosecution. I cant and will not believe someone can leave a slot machine and if they dont come back for awhile, that it is illegal to play on that machine or cashout the credits. someone has to feel like i do.

Oh, so now you are saying they did not leave you with the payout slip but merely asked you to watch the machine with their "card" still active in the machine? Then you decided to cash out their machine and take the payout slip and cash it.

It's foolish on their part but illegal for you to take their money. Curious as to just how long you sat there waiting.

Maybe you never get somebody to defend you is because you are in the wrong. We generally do not pat a thief on the back and provide defenses to them.

. and i know, al lthe time peopel sit down to machien where some change is left in it and they arent charged with a crime for playing it or taking it so at what amount doe sit become a crime?

that doesn't mean it isn't a crime. I know people that speed all the time but that does not mean when I get caught speeding it isn't illegal. It just means they didn't get caught.

taking any money that does not belong to you is a crime.

and how do they know the person didnt say i could have it or owed me money.

and when you told them the person gave you the money the police said....?

. for them to just charge me without even interviewing me seems totally unjust.

you will have your chance to explain that the money was given to you when you go to court.

so I just want to know if i have a good defense , that i thought the person just was never coming back as it was a while they were gone and that i see money left in machine all the time and no one is ever arrested for it

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No, that is a lousy defense.

 

[kingcuppie]

abandoned property

i looked up wikepedia(not the best source) but anyways i can consider it abandoned property. And, since the person wasnt coming back, i have a right, as he supposedly passed this right of protecting his credits, to cash out the credits and protect them till i can find him again. it's rediculous to think you can abandon property and blame anyone but urself for it.

 

[Zigner]

i looked up wikepedia(not the best source) but anyways i can consider it abandoned property. And, since the person wasnt coming back, i have a right, as he supposedly passed this right of protecting his credits, to cash out the credits and protect them till i can find him again. it's rediculous to think you can abandon property and blame anyone but urself for it.

Troll.....

 

[justalayman]

i looked up wikepedia(not the best source) but anyways i can consider it abandoned property. And, since the person wasnt coming back, i have a right, as he supposedly passed this right of protecting his credits, to cash out the credits and protect them till i can find him again. it's rediculous to think you can abandon property and blame anyone but urself for it.

you are right; wikipedia is not the best source for a legal interpretation of abandoned property laws, especially since what you came away with will get you arrested if you put it in practice


Oh, that's right. You did get arrested for putting it into practice.

I wouldn't plan on finding your defense in Wikipedia either.

 

[Proserpina]

i looked up wikepedia(not the best source) but anyways i can consider it abandoned property. And, since the person wasnt coming back, i have a right, as he supposedly passed this right of protecting his credits, to cash out the credits and protect them till i can find him again. it's rediculous to think you can abandon property and blame anyone but urself for it.

Quotalicious

 

[Proserpina]

you are right; wikipedia is not the best source for a legal interpretation of abandoned property laws, especially since what you came away with will get you arrested if you put it in practice


Oh, that's right. You did get arrested for putting it into practice.

I wouldn't plan on finding your defense in Wikipedia either.

You mean Wiki won't provide legal counsel for our OP?

 

[kingcuppie]

Ban zigner for slander

have some class Zigner, calling me names.

Also, i did NOT go out to the casino that night with the intent of commiting a crime. I was put in this situation, someone asks me for a faovr, then dissapears for a LONG Time. this is ENTRAPMENT. what jury is going to not see this?? I was asked a favor, then tempted. Ill fight this on ABANDONED PROPERTY and ENTRAPMENT,no intent WHATSOEVERRR to do a crime that night.

 

[Zigner]

have some class Zigner, calling me names.

Also, i did NOT go out to the casino that night with the intent of commiting a crime. I was put in this situation, someone asks me for a faovr, then dissapears for a LONG Time. this is ENTRAPMENT. what jury is going to not see this?? I was asked a favor, then tempted. Ill fight this on ABANDONED PROPERTY and ENTRAPMENT,no intent WHATSOEVERRR to do a crime that night.

Definitely a troll. Oh wait, I didn't come on here to say that...it must be entrapment (x3,759)