I've been stung by the Patriot Acts privacy illeminating stinger!

[richardthe3rd]

Hello! I am based in California and have within the last 7-10 months been under extreme levels of surveillance, by whom exactly, I have not been able to figure. Though Resources being used for said surveillance, include: Aircraft ,both chopper, jet and piper type single and twin engine type. By foot, those in vehicles of all sorts mostly of newer models til recently. And in such time, my neighborhood, a nice quiet, or use to be, suddenly is the most jogger, stroller, passerby infested block within miles. All of which are armed with cell phones and keeping in constant contact with with someone, I'm assuming the ones in the air, both of which have been honestly, impossible to evade, for the numbers are phenomenal. True paranoid one this one must sound. I gave up trying to convince others of this, for, truely, unless you personally experience this serreal situation, beleaving is of a chore. Obviously a direct result of the passing and extending of the Patriot Act. Don't be fooled, passing of the Patriot Act has less to do with terrorism than most of us were led to beleave after 9/11.(Our prairs to those lost as a result of 9/11).
Can't go to the police, sherrif or any other authority, for any surveillance post Patriot act is done in complete secrecy and you and me are not too be aware of such ongoings . I have not been confronted by any means, but is going on. 24/7. With that in mind, what levels of reverse attack or defense do I have if I defend my home, under surveillance round the clock. Throughout all hours. As far as I'm concerned, these are stalkers, or perhaps , terrorist themselves. I don't know, I have not been confronted by ANY means. Therefore, am I at right to defend myself when they get to close to my house , driveway, my person, etc. If they are seen rounding my home more than say 3 xs sometimes 6 or 7, then switch. This continues round the clock. What reprocusions do I have to look forward to if let's say, not touch any of these peoples, but disable a vehicle or damage it as I'm being chased or followed and I catch them. Let's just say, it's a good thing they have numbers, as in,multitudes of them, because, they truely are really very obvious and easy to detect, and not at all good at concealling what they are doing. Anyway, could someone, feedback with any insight as to where I stand. I 've been told , just to ignore them. If you're doing nothing wrong then they will go away. I will be the first to say, there in no truth to that in any amount. They are like cock roaches if you get my meaning.
Thank you1

 

[stealth2]

So what is it you've done to warrant such an expenditure of resources? I'm fascinated!

 

[richardthe3rd]

Let's just say, throughout my years, my earlier to semi recent ones , I have never been to jail, though I have been arrested about 5 times and I'm 35.The things arrested for, not one envolved at any time any person to person envolvement. Physi ally that is. Most were self destructive crimes, drug purchase and what not. It really could be in connection to any of those 5 episodes, or not, like I said I have not been confronted, so to feed any idea of anything they think I might have done, would be fuel for what may lie ahead. I don't know. What I do know is that they are to some level annoying. Though I don't want to be arrested again. Though I will not be , as anyone else bullied. Mind you, this is what they do, when they can't get you, for whatever it was that deploid these actions on there end. Don't be fooled, the police, fire dept all factors are now as one, though they are no heros, they are bullies , or punks with badges. The local fire dept., once whom I had such respect, now, weather a call to fire or not, routinely passes the next street over with sirens and grover horns a goin, just , well I don't know why, I do beleave they are pushing me into doing something that will have me arrested.because they have failed in there initial task, and so much has been invested, that they are not leaving til some sort of satisfaction has been established. This can, become dangerous for all envolved. Though this would be the case for anyone, even the upmost standing citizen. Only so much would be tollerated by anyone for such a long duration. I mean , that is their intent. Intent mind you, not success! I would like to know how far I can go on my own terms.

 

[Curt581]

There are many defenses to government intrusion. Some are more effective than others.

Try using the techniques on this website:

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

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[BelizeBreeze]

Get back on your meds. Then write back when the Men In Black come looking for you .

 

[HomeGuru]

no, don't write back**************......

 

[EvilWizard]

Your only legal recourse is to construct a hat out of tin foil. Make sure the top is twisted so that the whole thing resembles a giant Hershey's Kiss. Then wear said hat as much as possible.

Also don't drink any Starbucks as they put tiny microtransceivers in the coffee beans.

 

[EvilWizard]

Also side note: Since they are watching you so intently they will have monitored your online activity and now they know that you know that they know about you!

 

[You Are Guilty]

Beware the nanobots. They're lurking everywhere!

 

[richardthe3rd]

You see, those with that response, are the ones whos cases are closed, and already behind bars, and are the ideal ones who when a case is given is the ideal. I've made it quite clear that I'm aware that they are there. Why do you think I'm asking for advice. The methods I've been using in passing are what I'm feafful about. You see, I'm trying to stay out of jail. Like I said, I gave up trying to convince people. Wow, I do suggest one thing, trying reading a printed script of the patriot act, and see what it entales.
This is the first place I have written in regards to this situation,and just wanted to see if maybe this site was as serious as it presents iteself, though, with those responses, I'm grateful for the phrase, better them , than me! For you guys, ah yah, the men in black**************..ok!?
For the spies and cowards, you know who you are, if you are reading this, which , yes i'd assume you are, it just must suck to have a blown cover, something tells me, this is something they did'nt train you for. Will call this one, your marathon case!

 

[bigdreams11]

I agree with the OP on the fact that the U.S. Patriot Act is not used for what was intended to be used for. I see the Patriot Act as a necessary evil. Our Government has an obligation to us to protect us from foreign attacks, but our rights are being violated in the process. The U.S. Patriot Act violates and infringes upon numerous civil rights and liberties which are guaranteed to us by the U.S. Constitution. What's even more upsetting to me is the fact that 2% of all the arrests made with the use of provisions under the Patriot Act, have been related to terrorism. Instead they are using the Patriot Act to charge and convict drug traffickers because they find it easier to do so when they can violate their rights guaranteed to them by the U.S. Constitution, and then have some Act backed by Bush make the whole thing legal. The authorities are abusing this Act which was meant to protect us. It is a very controversial issue in my view because I think to myself, what would be better..." The American people's civil rights and liberties protected and upheld...or another horrific tragedy like 9/11/2001?" It's obvious that we have to do all we can to end terrorist threats in this country but at the same time the same rights that are being violated and infringed upon make major contribution to why this country is so great. The government is slowly but surely getting more and more power and taking it away from the people. In my opinion next presidential election we need to get the republicans out of office, put someone in who will throw the Patriot Act out, and not elect any more conservative judges to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Your best options are to complain to your local politicians, and let your grievances be heard. It is your right to petition government decisions and actions so do it if you don't like what's going on. I don't know why you are being put under such extreme surveillance but from what your saying, I can only assume you were involved in some really serious stuff. Your best bet on staying out of jail is to give them no reason to get you on anything. Don't speak of anything incriminating or illegal on any phone. Don't wave at them, or do anything to provoke them. They obviously want to bust you for something just don't give them any reason to let them do so.

 

[Veronica1228]

Hello! I am based in California and have within the last 7-10 months been under extreme levels of surveillance, by whom exactly, I have not been able to figure. Though Resources being used for said surveillance, include: Aircraft ,both chopper, jet and piper type single and twin engine type. By foot, those in vehicles of all sorts mostly of newer models til recently. And in such time, my neighborhood, a nice quiet, or use to be, suddenly is the most jogger, stroller, passerby infested block within miles. All of which are armed with cell phones and keeping in constant contact with with someone, I'm assuming the ones in the air, both of which have been honestly, impossible to evade, for the numbers are phenomenal. True paranoid one this one must sound. I gave up trying to convince others of this, for, truely, unless you personally experience this serreal situation, beleaving is of a chore. Obviously a direct result of the passing and extending of the Patriot Act. Don't be fooled, passing of the Patriot Act has less to do with terrorism than most of us were led to beleave after 9/11.(Our prairs to those lost as a result of 9/11).
Can't go to the police, sherrif or any other authority, for any surveillance post Patriot act is done in complete secrecy and you and me are not too be aware of such ongoings . I have not been confronted by any means, but is going on. 24/7. With that in mind, what levels of reverse attack or defense do I have if I defend my home, under surveillance round the clock. Throughout all hours. As far as I'm concerned, these are stalkers, or perhaps , terrorist themselves. I don't know, I have not been confronted by ANY means. Therefore, am I at right to defend myself when they get to close to my house , driveway, my person, etc. If they are seen rounding my home more than say 3 xs sometimes 6 or 7, then switch. This continues round the clock. What reprocusions do I have to look forward to if let's say, not touch any of these peoples, but disable a vehicle or damage it as I'm being chased or followed and I catch them. Let's just say, it's a good thing they have numbers, as in,multitudes of them, because, they truely are really very obvious and easy to detect, and not at all good at concealling what they are doing. Anyway, could someone, feedback with any insight as to where I stand. I 've been told , just to ignore them. If you're doing nothing wrong then they will go away. I will be the first to say, there in no truth to that in any amount. They are like cock roaches if you get my meaning.
Thank you1

Don't listen to everyone because you are so right. I've noticed the same things in MY neighborhood. Just today I was at home and I noticed this man come up my porch wearing a blue uniform and what looked to be a big bag full of envelopes. He then proceeded to leave some at my house! I was so terrified. Then tonight I ordered a pizza. 30 minutes later there was a young guy ringing my door bell carrying a square, flat cardboard box. I don't know what he was doing here, but I didn't answer my door. I'm pretty sure he was one of THEM.

Boy, I sure am hungry. I wonder whatever happened to my pizza. I'm going to call them to complain.

 

[EvilWizard]

I just like the fact that this guy thinks they are following him around in single engine prop planes like Pipers and what not... I'm surprised he hasn't seen JWACS or some P-2's trailing him as well.

Once again California posts in my opinion provide the best entertainment.

 

[bigdreams11]

I highly doubt that he is being watched so closely, and a lot of it might just be paranoia. However if he is indeed being watched this closely he sure as hell needs to give them no reason to charge him with anything.

 

[Mister Darcy]

Hello! I am based in California and have within the last 7-10 months been under extreme levels of surveillance, by whom exactly, I have not been able to figure. Though Resources being used for said surveillance, include: Aircraft ,both chopper, jet and piper type single and twin engine type. By foot, those in vehicles of all sorts mostly of newer models til recently. And in such time, my neighborhood, a nice quiet, or use to be, suddenly is the most jogger, stroller, passerby infested block within miles. All of which are armed with cell phones and keeping in constant contact with with someone, I'm assuming the ones in the air, both of which have been honestly, impossible to evade, for the numbers are phenomenal. True paranoid one this one must sound. I gave up trying to convince others of this, for, truely, unless you personally experience this serreal situation, beleaving is of a chore. Obviously a direct result of the passing and extending of the Patriot Act. Don't be fooled, passing of the Patriot Act has less to do with terrorism than most of us were led to beleave after 9/11.(Our prairs to those lost as a result of 9/11).
Can't go to the police, sherrif or any other authority, for any surveillance post Patriot act is done in complete secrecy and you and me are not too be aware of such ongoings . I have not been confronted by any means, but is going on. 24/7. With that in mind, what levels of reverse attack or defense do I have if I defend my home, under surveillance round the clock. Throughout all hours. As far as I'm concerned, these are stalkers, or perhaps , terrorist themselves. I don't know, I have not been confronted by ANY means. Therefore, am I at right to defend myself when they get to close to my house , driveway, my person, etc. If they are seen rounding my home more than say 3 xs sometimes 6 or 7, then switch. This continues round the clock. What reprocusions do I have to look forward to if let's say, not touch any of these peoples, but disable a vehicle or damage it as I'm being chased or followed and I catch them. Let's just say, it's a good thing they have numbers, as in,multitudes of them, because, they truely are really very obvious and easy to detect, and not at all good at concealling what they are doing. Anyway, could someone, feedback with any insight as to where I stand. I 've been told , just to ignore them. If you're doing nothing wrong then they will go away. I will be the first to say, there in no truth to that in any amount. They are like cock roaches if you get my meaning.
Thank you1

I find it interesting that you just assume that they are from a government agency. They could be extra-terrestial life forms or anthropologists from the future who have come back in time to study 21st century civilization. Perhaps you will do something very important in the future and they are trying to prevent it.