leave for vacation 1 day early w/o notice

[ncdadof3]

What is the name of your state?IL
Hi, i am from IL, I am the ncp and want to know what the consequences would be if I left 1 day early for a vacation. In a nutshell I want to pick up my son on my weekly thursday and hit the road, that would basically mean not returning him thurs night and keeping him through friday (which is my wknd which is followed by my properly requested vacation (sun pm to sun pm) all in all it would be a 10 day vacation) thanks

 

[LdiJ]

What is the name of your state?IL
Hi, i am from IL, I am the ncp and want to know what the consequences would be if I left 1 day early for a vacation. In a nutshell I want to pick up my son on my weekly thursday and hit the road, that would basically mean not returning him thurs night and keeping him through friday (which is my wknd which is followed by my properly requested vacation (sun pm to sun pm) all in all it would be a 10 day vacation) thanks

Why in the world would you want to do something like that?? Why in the world would you want to create that kind of stress/traumna/distrust? Why not ask if the cp would be ok with that?...and if not, why would one day be so important that you would be willing to damage the co-parenting trust?

As far as I am concerned that is just plain stupid....sorry to but so blunt...but that is my honest opinion.

 

[CJane]

Not returning the child at the end of a visitation period is contempt. If Thursday night is the end of an agreed upon period, and you don't return the child, you should expect Mom to call the police and file charges against you.

Have a conversation with your ex. Explain to her that you want more travel time. If she doesn't agree, then follow the court order.

 

[ncdadof3]

Why in the world would you want to do something like that?? Why in the world would you want to create that kind of stress/traumna/distrust? Why not ask if the cp would be ok with that?...and if not, why would one day be so important that you would be willing to damage the co-parenting trust?

As far as I am concerned that is just plain stupid....sorry to but so blunt...but that is my honest opinion.

there are various reasons. first , thank you for your honesty,
the reason being is: the ex has in the past not handed my son over to me on days she knew I would be taking him on vacation. she did this to sabitage our vacation plans. a lot of anxiety & money has been invested into this trip and i simply would go nuts if she did it again. second I am looking at it from the logical angle. our check in day is on fri and it takes 18 hrs to drive there, so thurs. seems an ideal time to leave. as far as the stress goes, yeah I dont need it, but in a way i feel she owes me that extra time for all the times she has denied me my visitation.

 

[ncdadof3]

please follow up "someone"

I really need to know if I would be facing criminal charges? and as far as asking my sons mom to do something to convenience me, would be like asking a priest to perform an abortion.... If I had any ounce of hope that she might accomidate me I would have asked? she has never had any respect for me & my sons relationship, in fact has gone to the extent of abusing the priveleges and help put out there for abused women to gain an upper hand in gaining custody and it worked. so to be honest I have no respect for the courts, police and everyone else that was too lazy to get to the bottom of a series of false allegations. I seldom see a judge dig deep to find the best interest of the child. Dupage county is hereby awarded the deadbeat judge award by me and many other "good dads" who get screwed out of what seems to be a constitutional right to live a fulfilling life with our children, and not be discriminated against based on gender and, stereotyped from the actions of the deadbeat dads out there... by the way, my original question would I be criminally liable for leaving on vacation 1 day early without giving the adequete notice required per court order? I just dont know what the deciding factors are when the police make the choice to call it a civil matter or criminal??

 

[LdiJ]

I really need to know if I would be facing criminal charges? and as far as asking my sons mom to do something to convenience me, would be like asking a priest to perform an abortion.... If I had any ounce of hope that she might accomidate me I would have asked? she has never had any respect for me & my sons relationship, in fact has gone to the extent of abusing the priveleges and help put out there for abused women to gain an upper hand in gaining custody and it worked. so to be honest I have no respect for the courts, police and everyone else that was too lazy to get to the bottom of a series of false allegations. I seldom see a judge dig deep to find the best interest of the child. Dupage county is hereby awarded the deadbeat judge award by me and many other "good dads" who get screwed out of what seems to be a constitutional right to live a fulfilling life with our children, and not be discriminated against based on gender and, stereotyped from the actions of the deadbeat dads out there... by the way, my original question would I be criminally liable for leaving on vacation 1 day early without giving the adequete notice required per court order? I just dont know what the deciding factors are when the police make the choice to call it a civil matter or criminal??

Again, I think it would be a really foolish thing to do. Mom is going to of course call the police....she is of course not going to tell the police about the planned vacation....you aren't going to be home to talk to the police so of course its going to look like a "snatch"....and therefore its possible that an "Amber Alert" could be issued for the child. Maybe in the end you wouldn't end up in serious trouble, but your vacation would sure as heck be ruined.....and you might end up spending a night or two in jail...somewhere.

Is all that risk really worth the extra day? If she tries to deny you the child on Friday in an attempt to mess up your vacation then get the police involved yourself....but otherwise be smart.

 

[VeronicaGia]

there are various reasons. first , thank you for your honesty,
the reason being is: the ex has in the past not handed my son over to me on days she knew I would be taking him on vacation. she did this to sabitage our vacation plans. a lot of anxiety & money has been invested into this trip and i simply would go nuts if she did it again. second I am looking at it from the logical angle. our check in day is on fri and it takes 18 hrs to drive there, so thurs. seems an ideal time to leave. as far as the stress goes, yeah I dont need it, but in a way i feel she owes me that extra time for all the times she has denied me my visitation.

So next time don't tell the CP you're taking the child on vacation until you have the child. Unless the order says otherwise, that is.

 

[stealth2]

LDi's right. Do you really want your kid to see you hauled off in handcuffs and have him held in protective custody until Mom can get to wherever to pick him up? This is a very foolish plan, IMO.

 

[jslopez711]

So next time don't tell the CP you're taking the child on vacation until you have the child. Unless the order says otherwise, that is.

This is good strategy.