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Old landlord looking for money in damages

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Born to Lease

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This is a GREAT example for persons who own carpet cleaning machines, and it should tell you to NEVER clean carpeting with a portable machine--especially when Pet Damages are present!!! Do you know that it costs far more money for repairing pet damages whenever ameture attempts have already been made to clean the carpet, as it sets the stains and odors in permanently???

Also, whenever you leave furniture behind you will rarely see the actual costs incurred by the LL...we cannot show the unit, we lose TIME (time=money) whenever we have to (1.) find someone to pick up the items; (2.) pay to have the items hauled off; and (3.) spend more time arranging for keys or going to the rental unit to open it up in order to allow them to pick up the items.

In addition, IF you provide your LL with proper written notice to vacate, and IF you practice GOOD, SOUND, business procedures, then your wisdom would not allow things such as this to occur...because you would have checked with the Landlord to make sure the notice sufficed in accordance to the Lease terms; and you would have also arranged for a final walk-through inspection of the rented unit whenever you had the LL sign and date your copy of the written notice to vacate at the time you submitted it to him/her.

It is NEVER to late to start doing things the right way; and until previous mistakes are taken care of, you can bet they will eventually find you and they will haunt you until the time you fix them! So, good luck and better luck in the future!!!

PS. The Landlord can pursue collection efforts in matters where previous tenants owe money forever, literally! So, do not contact him and tell him it is too late or that might be the final straw and you will wind up in court sooner rather than having a chance to make payments or whatever you can arrange that the LL will agree to accept.
 
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robert.knepp said:
I only wish 'statute' helped me. I also live in PA. I gave 30 days written notice along with written address on the day I moved out.

I called for about 5 weeks to get a written list of damages, with no luck. So I sued the landlord for my security deposit 45 days after moving out. They countersued and won because the judge said that the statute is their to prevent crooked landlords, not tenants who do damages (which I admitted to during the court hearing... why the hell did I want the list in the first place!).

************I was going to ask, but I saw that you are already kicking yourself in the ass so I figured I would not add insult to injury.



The landlord/tenant world is very currupt and biased towards landlords (I can't wait to see the attack from HG and others about this post). Of course that is the way of our country and it's law system in general so I'd rather have this currupt system than no law at all!

**********It is NOT the Landlord's fault the Judge decided to make a ruling based on the evidence YOU brought into court! Whenever you sue, then you allow the evidence to be brought in....which is exactly what you did. If you had not sued him, then a Judge would have dismissed the LL's case against you, once you proved he did not send you the itemized disposition of your SD following your vacating the unit, IF he had decided to sue you for the costs of damages.




For tenants, it comes down to knowing ahead of time what to do. It's easy enough to do, so why not just do it! Sames goes for landlords who have no idea what a landlord does.

***********Everyone has the same rights to an attorney; and we see the same Laws as tenants have the benefit of reading, knowing and applying.




Oh, and if you make under $25000/year I wouldn't even post on these forums. You'll be labelled a redneck trailer trash hippie before they even get to your question... :-)

**********The truth is not always liked by all; and in this case, it seems as though persons who make less than $25K per year should not offended--you are, what you are; and there ain't nothing wrong with that, unless you are not happy with who you are and then YOU would be the person who must make the changes.


Whoa... -rant mode disabled-




Sry... couldn't help myself.

***********Neither could I.

 
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Born to Lease

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dequeendistress said:
Whew I made well above the income limit


*****I might not this year, if people in my family do not get their sh** together and quit getting sick! BUT, I have to say--a trailer, even parked on my parents' land, is starting to look really gooood to me right now! Staying with parents, especially in Mississippi, on the eve of my 35th birthday (yes, I am turning 35 again this year!!!) where everyone here is of the Southern Baptist NO-DRINKING or you'll go straight to hell mentallity is definitely throwing a No-Drinking-and-Driving curve into my plans to get drunk tomorrow night! (suggestions, and offers, greatly apprecieated!!! :D just kidding, about the getting drunk part!:p )
 
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Born to Lease

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Have you taken any steps to remedy your situation? IF so, what happened???
 
Born to Lease said:
Have you taken any steps to remedy your situation? IF so, what happened???

Are you asking me? Or original poster?

If me:

I have since realized my ignorance in the way the system works. I have therefore decided to pay the price of my ignorance. Next time the LL wont be so lucky.... :-)

It came down to my understanding of the law: I thought because the LL did not give written list of damages, that he had no right to sue for those damages. I now take it that that is not the case.

My post above merely points to the fact that even if a law says one thing, the court's decision may be different depending on factors not mentioned in the law (well it was actually mentioned, not inthe actual statute, but instead it was mentioned in some obscure law book , that I didn't have access to, where someone took the liberty to describe how the law should be interpreted).

*burp*

Excuse me...
 

dequeendistress

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Born to Lease said:
PS. The Landlord can pursue collection efforts in matters where previous tenants owe money forever, literally! So, do not contact him and tell him it is too late or that might be the final straw and you will wind up in court sooner rather than having a chance to make payments or whatever you can arrange that the LL will agree to accept. [/B]


~~Do you care to clarify this?

Born to Lease said:
Also, whenever you leave furniture behind you will rarely see the actual costs incurred by the
LL...we cannot show the unit, we lose TIME (time=money) whenever we have to (1.) find
someone to pick up the items; (2.) pay to have the items hauled off; and (3.) spend more time
arranging for keys or going to the rental unit to open it up in order to allow them to pick up the
items. [End Quote]

~Or this? (Are there not State specific laws on abandoned property/disposal/charges? In absence of a State law, lease terms or occupancy policies approved/accepted by the landlord and tenant.)
 
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