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florit0275

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Indiana: & Illinois... I am from Indiana but this happened in Illinois.

About myself:
I am a 19 year old white male from Indianapolis, Indiana.

I need to know what I can do about this case, and what I can obtain from this.
Any advice any of you can offer, I posted this in two forums, Civil Rights and Traffic Violation. I apologize if that was the wrong thing to do.

Situation: I was in Chicago with my friend, meeting his family and just having a small vacation from work.
..

Was driving in downtown chicago when a car came up the right side (parking lane) illegally, cut me off, then got in left turn lane, It was a 1990 Crown Vic

i looked at him like are u serious? i look behind me and he had come up on me, and begins flashing his brights,
his normal lights had a right light out I THINK, Siren sounded cheap as heck

I stopped at the side of the road for 30 seconds to a minute.. he didnt do anything so i drove off
thinking it was a false cop trying to hijack (bad part of town)

(I have a car on 22" spinning rims, easy to profile)

Followed by the car with light out no blue or red lights, no police plates, guy had red shirt no badge, cop did not have his uniform,
before they came to the window, I saw the officers putting on their kevlar
pulled gun on me, threw me against my car,

Ripped my buddy out (guns almost pointed ON our heads)
Pushed us into my car so hard that they dented it,
Damaged my door handle... etc.

They had followed me for about 3 or 4 minutes swerving and could have gotten beside me.
(said i would have run him off the road when i asked him why he didnt get beside me)

Followed me for 3 or 4 blocks, I had seen real police lights ahead so i drove toward them... Going 10 miles an hour

Ripped me out of my car, cuffed me too tight, Swore innsessantly at me...

DID NOT READ ME MY RIGHTS AT ANY POINT DURING THE ARREST

Threw me in the back of a car with no cage, and no child locks,


Slammed my buddy Jesse into the car, hurt his surgically fixed knee
Cuffs scratched my paint

Cop when i was in his car... ran up and kicked my rims (witnesses Dave and his sister, and jesse to all of this)
they were spinning my spinners and making fun of my car

Searched my car.. ripped out my dash in the process breaking my AC, messing up my upper console, broke my temperature and compass console, broke my handle, unplugged all of my car audio equipment and tampering with the wires, as a result my equipment was damaged. Dented car, scratched paint and also dented trim, broke headlight somehow, random dents appeared after arrest, rims badly messed with, dented, and dont spin right anymore.

jesse was searched by girl who for lack of better way of putting it, searched him and touched his genitals,

Continued to swear insessantly, told my i was retarded etc. etc. lots of the F word.

During the search they found my pellet gun, tried to drop the clip thinking it was a real gun, said "DANGIT" thinking they had me.

Found no drugs or anything besides the gun that was illegal, even though in MY state it is legal.

During the search, small amounts of money were stolen and my gift cards were stolen... a Best Buy, Cheesecake factory, Autozone, and Barnes & Noble Giftcards were also stolen from my wallet.

I asked the reason for my arrest, cop didn't respond, I asked again a few minutes later and I was informed that it was because of my pellet gun..

He wouldn't tell me why he had pulled me over

I was then driven to jail, where i stayed for a bit over an hour.

the police DROVE MY CAR to the precinct, driving over a mediun, going at least 60-70 in a 30 cutting off traffic and hitting MASSIVE Potholes, also resulting in further damage to my rims.
DRIVING IT HARD.

got there.. they started treating me well. Did not finger print me, I was just asked to take the laces out of my shoes and put everything but my billed money into a bag.

Later the cop came back, told me I was able to leave jail with 2 citations.
1. for Obstruction of view because of a TV I had in my car
2. For use of a cell phone while driving... My friend was about to call the POLICE while this was happening but didn't know whether to call 911 so he decided not to, I DID NOT use my cell phone while operating my vehicle.

NO MENTION of why I was arrested, ("the gun")

And as if that wasn't enough messing with me for a day, they took my battery out of my keyless entry alarm system, and I had to sit outside of the precinct while the 3 witnesses (who had met me there) went to go buy me another battery, because they said they couldn't give me one and said they didn't take it. I had to sit out in a bad part of town, Precinct 22 to be exact in downtown chicago with dave's sister (my buddy who i was following this whole time) being harassed by people and fearing for my life.

The witnesses ALL stood and watched the ENTIRE process and are willing to testify.

I am extremely stressed with this whole situation. I cannot believe even now that this happened to me. This happened on september 3rd, at about 1:00 A.M. to about 3:00 A.M. I will likely be seeing a psychiatrist. My friend is also going to file, as he has an injury as a result, and was harassed by the female officer.

There is more to the story that I have probably forgotten, but I wrote it all down.

False Imprisonment,
Civil Rights violation, (they are required to read me miranda?)
Harassment,
Assault & Battery,
Theft

What else do I have on the officers? And do I even have those violations?

Advice would be greatly appreciated, I have spoken with lawyers that tell me I have a case but not sure what to do.

Help guys, sorry about the length of the post!

-Jason
 


pojo2

Senior Member
>>Advice would be greatly appreciated, I have spoken with lawyers that tell me I have a case but not sure what to do<<

Get real, I thought the post full of a lot of things exaggerated to make you look better but it took the last line to really convince me I was right.

Do you expect anyone here to believe this crap when you say that lawyer(S) have told you they are not sure what to do?

Kid that's what a lawyer is for and you indicate by the 'S' it was more than one Atty.

You either are the unluckiest kid alive or ran into a bunch of incompetent lawyers!
 
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florit0275

Guest
pojo, I've already responded to you in the other forum... but let's think logically here.

What does any person who posts in this forum GAIN by lying about the situation? Why would we waste our time to make up some stupid story? Especially when we aren't getting anything out of it.
 

seniorjudge

Senior Member
Q: What does any person who posts in this forum GAIN by lying about the situation?


A: Good question and I do not know the answer; however, I can tell you that it is done every day here.
 
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florit0275

Guest
Well that is quite pathetic. I assure you that everything I have said is 100% authentic. Now for misunderstandings, I apologize.

Clearing up again. THE LAWYERS never said they did not know what to do, I meant that I did not know what to do, sorry for the confusion
 

BelizeBreeze

Senior Member
florit0275 said:
Indiana: & Illinois... I am from Indiana but this happened in Illinois.
Irrelevant.
About myself:
I am a 19 year old white male from Indianapolis, Indiana.
irrelevant
I need to know what I can do about this case, and what I can obtain from this.
Any advice any of you can offer, I posted this in two forums, Civil Rights and Traffic Violation. I apologize if that was the wrong thing to do.
[/quote]
double post
Situation: I was in Chicago with my friend, meeting his family and just having a small vacation from work.
..
Irrelevant
Was driving in downtown chicago when a car came up the right side (parking lane) illegally, cut me off, then got in left turn lane, It was a 1990 Crown Vic
irrelevant
i looked at him like are u serious? i look behind me and he had come up on me, and begins flashing his brights,
his normal lights had a right light out I THINK, Siren sounded cheap as heck
irrelevant
I stopped at the side of the road for 30 seconds to a minute.. he didnt do anything so i drove off
thinking it was a false cop trying to hijack (bad part of town)
He was running your licence you idiot.
(I have a car on 22" spinning rims, easy to profile)
Irrelevant
Followed by the car with light out no blue or red lights, no police plates, guy had red shirt no badge, cop did not have his uniform,
before they came to the window, I saw the officers putting on their kevlar
pulled gun on me, threw me against my car,
You eluded. That was enough
Ripped my buddy out (guns almost pointed ON our heads)
Pushed us into my car so hard that they dented it,
Damaged my door handle... etc.
really? I guess you won't run from the police again.
They had followed me for about 3 or 4 minutes swerving and could have gotten beside me.
(said i would have run him off the road when i asked him why he didnt get beside me)
And since you ran from them I guess they should have had ESP to know you wouldn't?
Followed me for 3 or 4 blocks, I had seen real police lights ahead so i drove toward them... Going 10 miles an hour
Irrelevant
Ripped me out of my car, cuffed me too tight, Swore innsessantly at me...
O.K. sue them for hurting your feelings.
DID NOT READ ME MY RIGHTS AT ANY POINT DURING THE ARREST
NOT required unless there is an interrogation INCIDENT to a custody.
Threw me in the back of a car with no cage, and no child locks,
Are you a child?
Slammed my buddy Jesse into the car, hurt his surgically fixed knee
Cuffs scratched my paint
then sue the cops for doing their job.
Cop when i was in his car... ran up and kicked my rims (witnesses Dave and his sister, and jesse to all of this)
they were spinning my spinners and making fun of my car
So, sue the police for hurting your feelings.
Searched my car.. ripped out my dash in the process breaking my AC, messing up my upper console, broke my temperature and compass console, broke my handle, unplugged all of my car audio equipment and tampering with the wires, as a result my equipment was damaged. Dented car, scratched paint and also dented trim, broke headlight somehow, random dents appeared after arrest, rims badly messed with, dented, and dont spin right anymore.
Search incident to an arrest
jesse was searched by girl who for lack of better way of putting it, searched him and touched his genitals,
And I bet he smiled during the whole thing.
Continued to swear insessantly, told my i was retarded etc. etc. lots of the F word.
you ARE retarded. You ran from the police you idiot.
During the search they found my pellet gun, tried to drop the clip thinking it was a real gun, said "DANGIT" thinking they had me.
They DID have you. Try carrying a concealed weapon.
Found no drugs or anything besides the gun that was illegal, even though in MY state it is legal.
And you were not IN your state were you?
During the search, small amounts of money were stolen and my gift cards were stolen... a Best Buy, Cheesecake factory, Autozone, and Barnes & Noble Giftcards were also stolen from my wallet.
Prove it.
I asked the reason for my arrest, cop didn't respond, I asked again a few minutes later and I was informed that it was because of my pellet gun..
So now you know.
He wouldn't tell me why he had pulled me over
He didn't have to
I was then driven to jail, where i stayed for a bit over an hour.
[/qote]
irrelevant
the police DROVE MY CAR to the precinct, driving over a mediun, going at least 60-70 in a 30 cutting off traffic and hitting MASSIVE Potholes, also resulting in further damage to my rims.
DRIVING IT HARD.
then sue them for catching you.
got there.. they started treating me well. Did not finger print me, I was just asked to take the laces out of my shoes and put everything but my billed money into a bag.
irrelevant.
Later the cop came back, told me I was able to leave jail with 2 citations.
1. for Obstruction of view because of a TV I had in my car
2. For use of a cell phone while driving... My friend was about to call the POLICE while this was happening but didn't know whether to call 911 so he decided not to, I DID NOT use my cell phone while operating my vehicle.
Guess what? Using a cell phone while driving is ILLEGAL in Illinois.
NO MENTION of why I was arrested, ("the gun")
So?
And as if that wasn't enough messing with me for a day, they took my battery out of my keyless entry alarm system, and I had to sit outside of the precinct while the 3 witnesses (who had met me there) went to go buy me another battery, because they said they couldn't give me one and said they didn't take it. I had to sit out in a bad part of town, Precinct 22 to be exact in downtown chicago with dave's sister (my buddy who i was following this whole time) being harassed by people and fearing for my life.
Irrelevant.
The witnesses ALL stood and watched the ENTIRE process and are willing to testify.
then why are you pissing and moaning here unless you KNOW what you did to cause this and want strangers to give you the o.k. to sue.
I am extremely stressed with this whole situation. I cannot believe even now that this happened to me. This happened on september 3rd, at about 1:00 A.M. to about 3:00 A.M. I will likely be seeing a psychiatrist. My friend is also going to file, as he has an injury as a result, and was harassed by the female officer.
...
There is more to the story that I have probably forgotten, but I wrote it all down.
great. Now you can submit it to your writing class.
False Imprisonment,
Nope.
Civil Rights violation, (they are required to read me miranda?)
Nope
Harassment,
Nope
Assault & Battery,
no proof
What else do I have on the officers? And do I even have those violations?
stay away from the neighborhood where you were seen trying to buy drugs.
Advice would be greatly appreciated, I have spoken with lawyers that tell me I have a case but not sure what to do.
Yes, stay the hell away from Chicago. We have enough rifraft without you joining the party.
Help guys, sorry about the length of the post!

-Jason
 
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florit0275

Guest
Wow, you have to be the most ignorant, misinformed person on the planet.

It is people like you that makes the rest of the world hate the Unites States.
It's interesting, I have since spoken to a lawyer and several police who informed me that everything you have mentioned is quite the opposite.

You call me stupid, yet you judge me without ever having met me. You fail to realize how often people impersonate police officers to pull over people and steal their cars. You jump to conclusions too quickly, therfor showing your own lack of intelligence.

Here's my jump to conclusions.

I am very sorry that in High School and College (if you even attended such a thing) that you were insociable and nobody liked you. I apologize deeply for those who ridiculed you and poked fun at you. I am not aware of your physical appearance, but judging from your post I can feel secure in knowing that you're probably as ugly as your personality.

Lets look at the facts... You are in a FREEADVICE.com forum... Flaming people about things you have absolutely no idea about. You are completely and utterly unknowledgable about anything pertaining to the law. You have shown complete disreguard for anyone else's feelings. I can accept you're lack of intelligence, and lack of a social life that you have shown me. That is fine, I can also accept what you have told me.

Now, even if what you said had indeed been truthful... Don't you think there is a more friendly way you could have stated that? I am very sorry that you gain your self confidence from flaming people in a forum, once again I apologize on everyone's behalf who ridiculed you, and continues to.

TO INFORM

I am also sorry that you may be a retired police officer who decides that your way of helping the world is by flaming people in a forum.

You will spend a good time reading what I've said, and thinking of legitimate things to say in your defence... Don't waste your time... really.

I once again deeply apologize for your ignorance and lack of intelligence.
Have a nice day,

:)

Jason
 
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florit0275

Guest
Oh yeah, how and in what way is it irrelevant what state I live in?
Or my race, I wouldn't consider this case a descrimination case, would you?

And don't you think the cop was running my plates for the 5 minutes he was behind me in traffic when I was driving a whopping 5 mph?

I'm stupid... Hypocrit.
 
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florit0275

Guest
Oh yeah,

What is your name?

I am going to sue you for hurting my feelings.

:(
 

BelizeBreeze

Senior Member
you forgot one other point.

I've driven for 35 years without a single ticket.

Now, I wonder why that is????:D

By the way, I don't believe a word of your story. If it were true you wouldn't be here looking for an excuse to file suit. Your attorney already would have.

Have a hap...hap...happy day (outside of chicago)
 

worriedperiod

Junior Member
florit0275

I am sorry you have gone through such a terrible ordeal. I will not question whether you went through such because I know it is very possible. I am not sure if there is alot that can be done in municipalities many times they cover for each other I have seen this in my old municpality even if you had a legitamite complaint they have ways of minimizing it.. They can chuck it up to their job..
Since you are so young the only thing I can say is I know it was terrible to go through this but just learn something from this and don't be out so late at night this is usually when this type of thing takes place.. You automatically may look guilty because you were roaming out late at night.. That's the way the courts see it.. And plus you had a pellet gun which makes you look bad.. I am sure you did nothing wrong.. I am just saying things can easily be spun in a negative direction for their benefit.. Just learn from this yes there is corruption out there it can be nasty.. It does not help to not get peoples sympathy either some a re just mean spirited..

Hope it all works out for you..
D
 

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