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Questions about a request to appear in Colorado (pertaining to a "rave" party)

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CuriousInCO

Junior Member
Questions about a request to appear in Colorado (pertaining to a "rave" party)

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Colorado

A little background. Over the weekend I was asked to DJ at a local afterhours event. I was not paid, nor was there any paperwork or contracts. When DJing I provide my own DJ equipment which I bring with me. I played my hour long set, packed up my equipment, and stored it behind the stage, then proceeded to hang out at the event for a while. At approximately 11 pm the event was broken up by the Denver Vice/Narcotics bureau. At this time the LEOs advised everyone who was not affiliated with the event to leave. No arrests were made, no tickets were written. As I tried to leave with my equipment I was stopped by one of the officers and told to sit tight, along with the sound and lighting technicians, the event promoters, and the DJ who was playing when the officers arrived (the officers actually handcuffed said DJ and led him off to the side where they appeared to interrogate and search him, with no other explanation as to their reasoning aside from the fact that he was playing music at an unlicensed venue). This seemed a little extreme to me, but being that I didn't want to draw any unwanted attention to myself or my girlfriend, I kept my mouth shut.

Over the next twenty minutes the LEOs collected all of our IDs and ran all of our names, I assume to check for warrants. They made several threats to all of us, saying they were going to seize all of our equipment as evidence because we were involved in an unlicensed "rave", that the venue had been under surveillance for a few weeks, and that they were going to take us all to jail if we so much as thought about arguing with them. No one was read their rights, and no one was given any more information.

The officers eventually returned all of our IDs, and everyone left in the room was released, with their equipment. No arrests were made, but all of us were given a piece of paper (DPD 75) saying "You are requested to appear, with or without counsel, at the Denver Police Department concerning the following incident. (Coincidentally, on my form the box in front of this statement was NOT checked, but the spaces for address and incident occuring, as well as the date, time, and detective/case # were filled out.) The box marked Vice/Narcotics Bureau was checked and a date and time to appear were written in.

So my question is this. Being that I was neither arrested nor ticketed at the time, and I was never informed as to why I was requested to appear, (nor were anyone else there), what could the department's intentions be for bringing us back down to the station three days after the fact? Is there a chance I could be arrested? I also noticed the wording on the paper specifically states that I am requested to appear, not required, and there is nothing stated about possible legal actions if I choose not to appear. Is it likely that a warrant would be issued if I chose not to appear?

Thanks in advance, hopefully someone here can give me some advice. BTW, I'm "requested to appear" this coming Weds afternoon at 5pm. I have every intention of going down there, but I'm poor and cant afford a lawyer, and would really like to know what I'm walking into before I get there. I feel as though I did nothing wrong, and the bureau's actions that night are nothing more than police profiling, which last time I checked is still illegal.What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)?
 


CdwJava

Senior Member
They have apparently asked to speak with you again about the incident. You can choose to go or not. Your call. They may or may not be pursuing the matter further. Your participation in this or future events could result in your becoming embroiled in some serious criminal allegations, or, at the least, being asked for information on the promoters and others who are involved.

This is NOT any form of illegal profiling. "Profiling" is not illegal. Busting a rave is not "profiling." Investigating drug activity is not "profiling." In fact, CRIMINAL profiling is perfectly illegal. If they acted SOLELY on the basis of someone's perceived association with a protected class of individual then it might be unlawful racial profiling. Understand that being a promoter of unlicensed musical events is not a protected class of people.

If you really do not understand why Vice/Narcotics guys might have an interest in a rave party, then you are deluding yourself.
 

CuriousInCO

Junior Member
Oh, I know why they're interested. I've been a DJ for 13 years, and I have absolutely no illusions about what does or doesn't go on at these events. I'm just wondering what to expect when I go in on Wednesday, and whether or not it would be in my best interest to try to hire a lawyer.
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
Oh, I know why they're interested. I've been a DJ for 13 years, and I have absolutely no illusions about what does or doesn't go on at these events. I'm just wondering what to expect when I go in on Wednesday, and whether or not it would be in my best interest to try to hire a lawyer.
Only you know what your involvement is. If you feel that you can be implicated, then you can either choose not to show or hire an attorney. I suspect you should consult legal counsel.
 

dave33

Senior Member
I cannot imagine a reason for you to go. Whatever they want they do not have your best interest as a priority. It is likely they want information. They could very well try and obtain this info. by manipulating, misleading, threatening or outright lying to you. They have no reason to be truthful and/or helpful to you in any way. It is not illegal or by their accounts even improper to be as deceiptful as possible when trying to accomplish their objective. You have no way of knowing what the truth is. Do not make the common mistake and think you are going to go down there and things will be o.k. They may very well be trying to get an incriminating statement from you so they can threaten or even arrest you and force you to do their bidding. They do this sort of thing every day and are very good at it. Do not be nieve. Also by showing up at their request you are pretty much discarding any civil protections. They are not your friend. They do not want to help you. If they want to talk than they can come to you. Even if that happens refuse to make any statements. Many, many, many times the only thing that puts people in jail is their own big mouth. Make friends some other time and perhaps pick people you at least think you can trust.
 

You Are Guilty

Senior Member
If you elect to attend, either tape your mouth shut or bring a lawyer. No ifs, ands or buts about it. The police are not looking out for your well being.
 

gawm

Senior Member
Do not go to this "request". Also if ever ask about any of it again, the only words out of your mouth should be I do not wish to make any comments without my attorney present.
 

CdwJava

Senior Member
Now they have your number. You will be looked at for future events. Your involvement in events where there is drug use, underage drug and alcohol activity, and likely other crimes as well, can land you in the hoosegow. Time to find some legitimate gigs and not risk jail.
 

swalsh411

Senior Member
Don't try to out think the police. They are much better at this then you are. Simply do not go down there and do not speak to them.
 

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