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franberi

Junior Member
What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? CT
I need help. My grandfather owns a condo. He moved out 15 years ago, and had a reserved spot. The lady upstairs is on oxygen. Grandpa told her she can use the spot since he wasn't living here. Three years ago, I moved in with my family. The neighbor asked if she could still use the spot. I said sure. Then bam! She starts telling everyone that it was her spot, and she let my Grandpa use it and now she's taking it back.
I called the management company to get to the bottom of it. It took 2 weeks for them to find out about the spot. They finally sent me a letter stating that the spot is Grandpa's. They sent a copy to the lady upstairs as well. She flipped. Then I get calls from the board saying the letter was no good, and they were going to have a meeting.
The result: supposedly in 1995 there was a written agreement between Grandpa, the old management company, and the lady upstairs saying that the unit number, not the individual, can use the spot until he sells, then it will come back to the person who buys the unit from Grandpa.. My Grandpa knows nothing about this letter. I want the lady towed and I want the spot that is mine.
Legally, what should I do?
 


HomeGuru

Senior Member
franberi said:
What is the name of your state?What is the name of your state? CT
I need help. My grandfather owns a condo. He moved out 15 years ago, and had a reserved spot. The lady upstairs is on oxygen. Grandpa told her she can use the spot since he wasn't living here. Three years ago, I moved in with my family. The neighbor asked if she could still use the spot. I said sure. Then bam! She starts telling everyone that it was her spot, and she let my Grandpa use it and now she's taking it back.
I called the management company to get to the bottom of it. It took 2 weeks for them to find out about the spot. They finally sent me a letter stating that the spot is Grandpa's. They sent a copy to the lady upstairs as well. She flipped. Then I get calls from the board saying the letter was no good, and they were going to have a meeting.
The result: supposedly in 1995 there was a written agreement between Grandpa, the old management company, and the lady upstairs saying that the unit number, not the individual, can use the spot until he sells, then it will come back to the person who buys the unit from Grandpa.. My Grandpa knows nothing about this letter. I want the lady towed and I want the spot that is mine.
Legally, what should I do?

**A: post the contents word for word of the written agreement.
 

franberi

Junior Member
Fast reply!

:confused: Thanks for the speedy reply. Which agreement should I post? I have the one telling me that the spot is Grandpa's. I don't have the one from 1995. "It's in the mail". If they sent it when they said- I should have it tomorrow.
Thanks again for your help.
 

HomeGuru

Senior Member
franberi said:
:confused: Thanks for the speedy reply. Which agreement should I post? I have the one telling me that the spot is Grandpa's. I don't have the one from 1995. "It's in the mail". If they sent it when they said- I should have it tomorrow.
Thanks again for your help.


**A: the one Grandpa signed.
 

franberi

Junior Member
Sorry- there must be a misunderstanding somewhere. Grandpa hasn't signed anything. He was an attorney for years, and it takes a lot for him to sign something. The management company told me that it was an agreement with no signatures. I obviously have to see it for myself. All of this sounds fishy. Grandpa is 89 years old, but he knows what's going on. The board and the management company tell me that I'm just a renter, and I have no rights. It's a little confusing. How can one letter from the board stating that the spot is Grandpa's not be valid, but one from 1995 is? Grandpa wasn't even living here, and it was a different property manager back then. I have a signed letter from the new manager that's from 2 weeks ago. According to everyone at the condo, the board has the final say.
Hope I'm not boring you.
Thanks for the advice.
 

HomeGuru

Senior Member
franberi said:
Sorry- there must be a misunderstanding somewhere. Grandpa hasn't signed anything. He was an attorney for years, and it takes a lot for him to sign something. The management company told me that it was an agreement with no signatures. I obviously have to see it for myself. All of this sounds fishy. Grandpa is 89 years old, but he knows what's going on. The board and the management company tell me that I'm just a renter, and I have no rights. It's a little confusing. How can one letter from the board stating that the spot is Grandpa's not be valid, but one from 1995 is? Grandpa wasn't even living here, and it was a different property manager back then. I have a signed letter from the new manager that's from 2 weeks ago. According to everyone at the condo, the board has the final say.
Hope I'm not boring you.
Thanks for the advice.


**A: if there is no written evidence then kick the lady out, tow away her car.
 

franberi

Junior Member
Thanks for the reply. As of yet, I haven't received this so-called agreement. When I do-I'll be sure to bother you for help!
 

nextwife

Senior Member
Do get a copy of the recorded deed and review it. Many of the condos I've dealt with deed the parking spots as limited common areas along with the particular unit. When I sold my condo, the legal included a particular garage spot and particular outdoor spot, for example. If it turns out you have a DEEDED spot, simply show her the deed (and the HOA) once you have verified there are no subsequent deeds to those spots. I have been involved in recording literaLLY HUNDREDS OF CONDO DEEDS., and many had the particular parking spot and/or garage included in the legal description on the deed.
 

franberi

Junior Member
Thank you for the help

Thank's for the great advice. According to the management compay, there are no records of the spaces included with the deed. The lady upstairs told us today that she has a deed with the spot included. She won't show it to me, and the board never mentioned it. We took the spot over today. We are so hated by everyone here.She'll be going to the board tomorrow. Legally, it's ours. I hope it is! I'll keep ya updated. Great advice, thank you.
 

HomeGuru

Senior Member
franberi said:
Thank's for the great advice. According to the management compay, there are no records of the spaces included with the deed. The lady upstairs told us today that she has a deed with the spot included. She won't show it to me, and the board never mentioned it. We took the spot over today. We are so hated by everyone here.She'll be going to the board tomorrow. Legally, it's ours. I hope it is! I'll keep ya updated. Great advice, thank you.


**A: read your title report.
 

franberi

Junior Member
more drama

I want to thank everyone for all the great advice I've gotten. I finally received the letter from 1995. It basically says that the board agreed to let the lady upstairs park in my Grandfather's spot until he sells his unit. It's signed from the manager at the time. A copy went to the lady upstairs, and to the board. My grandfather knew nothing about this.He never agreed to it. The new manager put a cover letter saying that the letter she signed in June of this year saying that the spot was my Grandfather's was a misunderstanding, and to discard it. The spot is to be used by the lady upstairs. Nothing in the deeds state the parking spots.None of this sounds legal. I talked to the previous manager, he remembers nothing. After all it was 10 years ago. The new manager said she just talked to him. He tells me no. He has nothing to do with this place anymore. We were parking in the spot. We left to run some errands, and the old lady took the spot back! This is out of control. The manager tells me I have no rights. My Grandfather is old, and sickly, and lives 10 minutes away. It's really a nightmare. Everyone here hates us, they think we're being mean to an old lady. She has lied about this darn spot for over 10 years. She had the gall to tell me it was her's, and she let my Grandfather use it. Now there's this letter from 1995 saying it is my Grandfather's, but she can use it, and whoever else takes over her place, until Grandpa sells.
I'm confused. How can a letter from last month not be valid, but one from 10 years ago is? How can I fight this? Can a board do whatever they want as far as parking spots?
Thank you all for your advice.
 

HomeGuru

Senior Member
franberi said:
I want to thank everyone for all the great advice I've gotten. I finally received the letter from 1995. It basically says that the board agreed to let the lady upstairs park in my Grandfather's spot until he sells his unit. It's signed from the manager at the time. A copy went to the lady upstairs, and to the board. My grandfather knew nothing about this.He never agreed to it. The new manager put a cover letter saying that the letter she signed in June of this year saying that the spot was my Grandfather's was a misunderstanding, and to discard it. The spot is to be used by the lady upstairs. Nothing in the deeds state the parking spots.None of this sounds legal. I talked to the previous manager, he remembers nothing. After all it was 10 years ago. The new manager said she just talked to him. He tells me no. He has nothing to do with this place anymore. We were parking in the spot. We left to run some errands, and the old lady took the spot back! This is out of control. The manager tells me I have no rights. My Grandfather is old, and sickly, and lives 10 minutes away. It's really a nightmare. Everyone here hates us, they think we're being mean to an old lady. She has lied about this darn spot for over 10 years. She had the gall to tell me it was her's, and she let my Grandfather use it. Now there's this letter from 1995 saying it is my Grandfather's, but she can use it, and whoever else takes over her place, until Grandpa sells.
I'm confused. How can a letter from last month not be valid, but one from 10 years ago is? How can I fight this? Can a board do whatever they want as far as parking spots?
Thank you all for your advice.


**A: read my previous post. I am not responding further until I know what the title states. In a CPR, grandfather owns the apartment unit. But does this unit come with an assigned parking stall that is considered a limited common element? Is there an assigned parking stall? If so, where is it?
I don't care about any letters signed by the board or what the managers or lady says.
 

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