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ShaneB

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? CA

This is my first post here, and I must say I am very thankful a site like this exists. Thank you for your time and response in advance.

I bought my condo in northern California on Jan 14, 2000. When the carpet was being layed, just prior to move in, I noticed a large section of the corner of the slab foundation was actually severed or unattatched from the rest of the slab. I notified the seller and they appear to have glued or epoxyed the broken piece back into place. The broken piece was about 2 feet wide at one end to about 8 inches wide on the other end, in a triangle shape for a total of 3-4 feet long and positioned under the exterior wall, at the corner of my condo. This crack was caused by a large tree that was removed just prior to my purchase.

I would like to note that my air conditioning stopped working before this summer. Upon having a professional HVAC technician come out, he noticed the hot, or small unwrapped, freon line that runs from my AC fan unit outside, to the equipment inside, was severed. This freon line runs right through the slab concrete broken portion of the foundation. I have been trying to get my HOA to address this problem all summer and they have recently come to the conclusion that they are not responsible for AC freon lines. I was without AC this entire summer due to the HOA's blame game and heel dragging. Their final decision not to pay for the damage just came yesterday.


My problem is this: The HOA say that my AC unit is not covered according to their CC&R's. The HOA refers to my broken freon line that runs through the broken slab portion, up the wall, through the cieling to my AC closet, as being part of the "System" of the AC and is not their responsibility. This is my HOA's wording in the CC&R's regarding their responsibility:

Interior Appliances, Shelves, Counters, Fixtures (including tub, shower, sink, air conditioners and air conditioning systems serving the individual units) and floor coverings: Owner's responsiblity.

The HOA has a lawyer on retainer who insits on discouraging me in all endeavors. The HOA's lawyer keeps saying the AC freon lines are part of the "System", yet these lines run through the cracked portion of the foundation and then through the structure. An entirely new set of AC lines will now have to be run up through the attic and down the side of the building with a decorative plating over the new freon lines to comply with the CC&R's. My entire AC system was brand new in January of 2000, when I moved in. This has been documented by HVAC professional and sent to the HOA's lawyer.

Please tell me there is some course of action I can take or some civil code or precedent that would help me in my case I plan to take to small claims court. This summer was so miserable with temperatures up to 96 degrees where I sleep, and after all that suffering to have them tell me I now have to pay for the fix myself and have the asthetics scrutinized by the board. I am so angry with them.

Thank you for time and patience.


Shane
 
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HomeGuru

Senior Member
ShaneB said:
What is the name of your state? CA

This is my first post here, and I must say I am very thankful a site like this exists. Thank you for your time and response in advance.

I bought my condo in northern California on Jan 14, 2000. When the carpet was being layed, just prior to move in, I noticed a large section of the corner of the slab foundation was actually severed or unattatched from the rest of the slab. I notified the seller and they appear to have glued or epoxyed the broken piece back into place. The broken piece was about 2 feet wide at one end to about 8 inches wide on the other end, in a triangle shape for a total of 3-4 feet long and positioned under the exterior wall, at the corner of my condo. This crack was caused by a large tree that was removed just prior to my purchase.

I would like to note that my air conditioning stopped working before this summer. Upon having a professional HVAC technician come out, he noticed the hot, or small unwrapped, freon line that runs from my AC fan unit outside, to the equipment inside, was severed. This freon line runs right through the slab concrete broken portion of the foundation. I have been trying to get my HOA to address this problem all summer and they have recently come to the conclusion that they are not responsible for AC freon lines. I was without AC this entire summer due to the HOA's blame game and heel dragging. Their final decision not to pay for the damage just came yesterday.


My problem is this: The HOA say that my AC unit is not covered according to their CC&R's. The HOA refers to my broken freon line that runs through the broken slab portion, up the wall, through the cieling to my AC closet, as being part of the "System" of the AC and is not their responsibility. This is my HOA's wording in the CC&R's regarding their responsibility:

Interior Appliances, Shelves, Counters, Fixtures (including tub, shower, sink, air conditioners and air conditioning systems serving the individual units) and floor coverings: Owner's responsiblity.

The HOA has a lawyer on retainer who insits on discouraging me in all endeavors. The HOA's lawyer keeps saying the AC freon lines are part of the "System", yet these lines run through the cracked portion of the foundation and then through the structure. An entirely new set of AC lines will now have to be run up through the attic and down the side of the building with a decorative plating over the new freon lines to comply with the CC&R's. My entire AC system was brand new in January of 2000, when I moved in. This has been documented by HVAC professional and sent to the HOA's lawyer.

Please tell me there is some course of action I can take or some civil code or precedent that would help me in my case I plan to take to small claims court. This summer was so miserable with temperatures up to 96 degrees where I sleep, and after all that suffering to have them tell me I now have to pay for the fix myself and have the asthetics scrutinized by the board. I am so angry with them.

Thank you for time and patience.


Shane

**A: time to hire your own attorney.
 

ShaneB

Junior Member
HomeGuru said:
**A: time to hire your own attorney.

Expensive advice, considering the lawyer would like take more than the judgement awarded, or recompence sought. I can not bring an attorney to small claims court, I guess you meant consult an attorney on an hourly basis to help make my case.

I was hoping for a more clear cut answer as to who is responsible for the slab floor foundation. My CC&R's do not even make mention of the foundation anywhere within. The HOA did repair my driveway slab in the past and that is mentioned in the CC&R's as being their responsibility. Just no mention of the actual slab in the unit.

Who is responsible in such a case?
 

HomeGuru

Senior Member
ShaneB said:
What is the name of your state? CA

This is my first post here, and I must say I am very thankful a site like this exists. Thank you for your time and response in advance.

I bought my condo in northern California on Jan 14, 2000. When the carpet was being layed, just prior to move in, I noticed a large section of the corner of the slab foundation was actually severed or unattatched from the rest of the slab. I notified the seller and they appear to have glued or epoxyed the broken piece back into place. The broken piece was about 2 feet wide at one end to about 8 inches wide on the other end, in a triangle shape for a total of 3-4 feet long and positioned under the exterior wall, at the corner of my condo. This crack was caused by a large tree that was removed just prior to my purchase.

I would like to note that my air conditioning stopped working before this summer. Upon having a professional HVAC technician come out, he noticed the hot, or small unwrapped, freon line that runs from my AC fan unit outside, to the equipment inside, was severed. This freon line runs right through the slab concrete broken portion of the foundation. I have been trying to get my HOA to address this problem all summer and they have recently come to the conclusion that they are not responsible for AC freon lines. I was without AC this entire summer due to the HOA's blame game and heel dragging. Their final decision not to pay for the damage just came yesterday.


My problem is this: The HOA say that my AC unit is not covered according to their CC&R's. The HOA refers to my broken freon line that runs through the broken slab portion, up the wall, through the cieling to my AC closet, as being part of the "System" of the AC and is not their responsibility. This is my HOA's wording in the CC&R's regarding their responsibility:

Interior Appliances, Shelves, Counters, Fixtures (including tub, shower, sink, air conditioners and air conditioning systems serving the individual units) and floor coverings: Owner's responsiblity.

The HOA has a lawyer on retainer who insits on discouraging me in all endeavors. The HOA's lawyer keeps saying the AC freon lines are part of the "System", yet these lines run through the cracked portion of the foundation and then through the structure. An entirely new set of AC lines will now have to be run up through the attic and down the side of the building with a decorative plating over the new freon lines to comply with the CC&R's. My entire AC system was brand new in January of 2000, when I moved in. This has been documented by HVAC professional and sent to the HOA's lawyer.

Please tell me there is some course of action I can take or some civil code or precedent that would help me in my case I plan to take to small claims court. This summer was so miserable with temperatures up to 96 degrees where I sleep, and after all that suffering to have them tell me I now have to pay for the fix myself and have the asthetics scrutinized by the board. I am so angry with them.

Thank you for time and patience.


Shane

**A: I agree with the HOA. If you want to fight them, hire your own attorney.
 

ShaneB

Junior Member
This site is a joke and waste of everyones time.

What great legal advice. Are you anything besides a front or a referral service for attorneys? This site is a sham, and you Home Guru are less than a legal secretary. You never quote any codes or laws and you only seem to favor the establishment in all your near worthless responses. Thanks for nothing and thanks for helping discourage the little guy.
 

HomeGuru

Senior Member
ShaneB said:
What great legal advice. Are you anything besides a front or a referral service for attorneys?

**A: yes, and it appears you take that attitude becasey I did not help YOU with what YOU wanted. Does the world revolve around YOU? You tend to look in the mirror too much since that's all you see.
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This site is a sham, and you Home Guru are less than a legal secretary.

**A: you are entitled to your opinion although I don't give a rat's ass about it. Why? Because the website owners know my status and qualifications and that's the only thing that counts.

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You never quote any codes or laws

**A: why should I? I DO NOT get paid here to spend time searching state statutes. You want codes or laws, show some attorney the $$$$$$. YOU cheapskate. Look again. This is freeadvice website, not a free codes and laws website. You are a strange DR. Jerkyl and Mr. Hyde kind of person.
Please take your meds.

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and you only seem to favor the establishment in all your near worthless responses.

**A: what establishment? Did you read my Hurricane Katina post where i asked what took the government so long?

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Thanks for nothing and thanks for helping discourage the little guy.


**A: ok, you looked down your pants again and discovered again that you were the little guy. Well, I'm sorry for you.
 

ShaneB

Junior Member
My c*ck has nothing to do with me being a financial "little guy". If your girl(doubt you have one, you're probably a faeg),mom or sister wants a peek I'll be glad to oblige, I'd hate to shame you though, in front of all.

How old are you Home Douchebag? What are your legal qualifications? Sucking some guys pee pee doesn't count for tenure though, fruit cake.
 

HomeGuru

Senior Member
ShaneB said:
My c*ck has nothing to do with me being a financial "little guy". If your girl(doubt you have one, you're probably a faeg),mom or sister wants a peek I'll be glad to oblige, I'd hate to shame you though, in front of all.

How old are you Home Douchebag? What are your legal qualifications? Sucking some guys pee pee doesn't count for tenure though, fruit cake.


**A: thank you. You have just proven my point once again.
What a wacko.
 

ShaneB

Junior Member
NOW THAT sh*t is funny BelizeBreeze. Is this your gay buddy HomeEnema kit?

Do you guys laugh at each others little guy?
 

BelizeBreeze

Senior Member
ShaneB said:
NOW THAT sh*t is funny BelizeBreeze. Is this your gay buddy HomeEnema kit?

Do you guys laugh at each others little guy?
Yep we do. And you are the B!tch in the middle....come here little guy, it's my turn with the B!tch :D
 

ShaneB

Junior Member
You aer the fag who knows so much about little guys, you know alot on the subject I am guessing.

You don't however know enough about the legal system to amount or account for sh*t.

Save your lip pu*ssy.
 

ShaneB

Junior Member
BelizeBreeze you should change your quote to:

I don't do handouts... But if Home Cornhole needs a handjob..
 

ShaneB

Junior Member
Ohh and by the way, I was able to prove to the HOA's lawyer, the tree growth was responsible for the foundation damage and the subsequent AC failure. I will be settling with the HOA starting monday.

I didn't even have to hire an attorney and waste my money. Thanks for everything you guys, you have been very helpful. Sorry you had to be verbally clowned in your own forum.
 

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