Snow shoveling

[Sabazo]

WI

We just purchased our home this past summer, so this is our first winter here. Our neighbor is a nice windowed woman guessing in her 80's. She has someone that comes to shovel for her, problem is they put her snow in our backyard. This is always done by the time we get home from work. The issue that this is causing is that we have so much snow in our backyard that they have made a snow ramp for our 2 year old German Shephard, she can literally step right over the fence. She doesn't do well with other dogs, we have coyotes in the neighborhood. My fear is one day she will walk right over the fence and we'll be in legal trouble. Any advice would be appreciated.

 

[Just Blue]

WI

We just purchased our home this past summer, so this is our first winter here. Our neighbor is a nice windowed woman guessing in her 80's. She has someone that comes to shovel for her, problem is they put her snow in our backyard. This is always done by the time we get home from work. The issue that this is causing is that we have so much snow in our backyard that they have made a snow ramp for our 2 year old German Shephard, she can literally step right over the fence. She doesn't do well with other dogs, we have coyotes in the neighborhood. My fear is one day she will walk right over the fence and we'll be in legal trouble. Any advice would be appreciated.

Did you ask the nice lady to tell her handyman to stop placing the snow in your yard?

 

[Sabazo]

Yes, she stated she would talk to them but it hasn't stopped.If I could post a picture of how much snow she has in her yard versus our yard I would.

 

[Just Blue]

Yes, she stated she would talk to them but it hasn't stopped.If I could post a picture of how much snow she has in her yard versus our yard I would.

Put up a sign "No Dumping". If he does it again put the snow back over the fence. Also put you dog on a chain so s/he can't get out till the situation is resolved.

 

[FarmerJ]

Ask your city if they have a ordinance that specifically says its not legal to move snow from your own property onto someone elses land with out consent then make a copy of the ordinance and mail it to her via confirmed mail delivery. 2 consider installing a camera to record this kind of thing and then when it happens report it to the police as illegal dumping . AS to the dog get a heavy duty cable and connect the dog to it so the dog cannot even reach the fence in order to go over it.

 

[Sabazo]

Thank you, we are taking down the 4 ft. Chainlink fence this spring and putting up a 6ft. Privacy fence so there shouldn't be anymore issues after this winter. Just waiting on some warmer weather to melt all this snow.

 

[Sabazo]

Put up a sign "No Dumping". If he does it again put the snow back over the fence. Also put you dog on a chain so s/he can't get out till the situation is resolved.

We thought about throwing the snow back over, but not worth the argument. When all the snow melts it will run onto her driveway/yard because of the natural slop we won't be the ones who will have to deal with a flooded yard/basement. We literally have 3 1/2 feet of snow along that fence line. On the other side we have just over 1 foot. Obviously the deeper side is taking longer to melt.

 

[justalayman]

We thought about throwing the snow back over, but not worth the argument. When all the snow melts it will run onto her driveway/yard because of the natural slop we won't be the ones who will have to deal with a flooded yard/basement. We literally have 3 1/2 feet of snow along that fence line. On the other side we have just over 1 foot. Obviously the deeper side is taking longer to melt.

But you have to realize, now it’s your snow that will be melting and flooding her basement.

 

[Sabazo]

But you have to realize, now it’s your snow that will be melting and flooding her basement.

No not really, we have enough to proof that the people she hired put it there. It doesn't make any sense for us to be reliable for something they caused. That's similar to saying if someone hit me with their car, became injured and tried to sue us. Just doesn't make sense.

 

[justalayman]

No not really, we have enough to proof that the people she hired put it there. It doesn't make any sense for us to be reliable for something they caused. That's similar to saying if someone hit me with their car, became injured and tried to sue us. Just doesn't make sense.

Sorry but it is your snow under the law. Once it is on your property and you do not act to cause the trespasser to remove the snow, it does become yours.

Your car analogy doesn’t work. It doesn’t even come close to being analogous to the snow issue.

 

[Sabazo]

Sorry but it is your snow under the law. Once it is on your property and you do not act to cause the trespasser to remove the snow, it does become yours.

Your car analogy doesn’t work. It doesn’t even come close to being analogous to the snow issue.

So how do I act? Without being an a$$hole. Both my husband and I have spoken with her, neighbors have told us they shouldn't be doing that. You can obviously tell (I have videos/pictures) showing the difference in snow from one side of our yard to another. Obviously mother nature didn't dumb 4 feet of snow on one side (her driveway side) and 1 foot on the other side (our driveway side) .

 

[justalayman]

Of course Mother Nature didn’t do this but once you acquiesced the the situstion it does become your snow



Do you really believe it will cause flooding? While generally as long as you haven’t altered the natural lay of the land you aren’t responsible for water flow but...


if you can make a diversion and direct the water away from her house it will likely make for a better relationship than laughi;g as her basement is flooded.

 

[Sabazo]

I would never laugh, I'm not the type of person who thrives on watching other people deal with an issue because of something they caused. I'm a professional person who doesn't want to see anything happen to my dog, my point of this thread was to get other opinions on what we should do in this situation.

Like I have stated I have a 2 year old German Shephard who doesn't do well with other dogs, she was attacked by a large dog with she was 6 months, so she now has a high fear of other dogs. I'm really not sure how she would react face to face with another dog and frankly I don't want to find out.

I'm really not sure if her basement would flood, I would hope not and I'm sure they have been doing this long before we got here. We never altered the ground, there is a natural hill and we just happen to be at the top. Another concern is her; what if when the snow melts, we get more freezing temps (I do live in WI), her driveway turns into an ice rink, and she falls and injures herself? Something I pray doesn't happen but very well could.

 

[justalayman]

Ok, maybe not laugh (it was more of a rhetorical statement) but you did write this;


When all the snow melts it will run onto her driveway/yard because of the natural slop we won't be the ones who will have to deal with a flooded yard/basement.


That suggests you believe she would be getting her due and rightfully so.


Ok, so what I would suggest as a solution to the immediate issue:

Aske her to have the handyman clear the snow in your yard. If rebuffed get the shovel or snowblower out and clear a pathway near your fence so the dog doesn’t get loose.


Ice is a natural result of winter. It would be very difficult to make you liable for her getting hurt from walking on any ice thst develops.

 

[Sabazo]

Ok, maybe not laugh (it was more of a rhetorical statement) but you did write this;


When all the snow melts it will run onto her driveway/yard because of the natural slop we won't be the ones who will have to deal with a flooded yard/basement.


That suggests you believe she would be getting her due and rightfully so.


Ok, so what I would suggest as a solution to the immediate issue:

Aske her to have the handyman clear the snow in your yard. If rebuffed get the shovel or snowblower out and clear a pathway near your fence so the dog doesn’t get loose.


Ice is a natural result of winter. It would be very difficult to make you liable for her getting hurt from walking on any ice thst develops.

Correct, it was a statement I do not nor wish any conflict on any person for any reason. I was basically stating she cannot get upset with us if something like a flooded basement was to happen. She knows there is a hill (clearly visible) and all the water will run towards her home.

Our sump pump used to be I'm our backyard, and during heavy rain the sump pump would work overtime and water would run onto her driveway. She politely asked if we could look into different ways to reroute the water. So we hired someone to reroute the sump pump to the other side of our home.

My point is we have asked her to relay the message not to put the snow in our yard. Number one my dog, number two she is going to have the same issue when all this snow melts that she complained about before. Almost seems like an oxymoron..

I appreciate your feedback, thank you