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BLeonard

Member
What is the name of your state? IN

OK, this is a matter of a divorce that is getting uglier by the day... Here's the backstory:

My current wife divorced her now ex-husband in December, in DeKalb County, IN. In the divorce decree, it states the following:

Set over to (My wife) as her sole property free and clear of any claim thereto by (Her ex) are the following marital assets as valued by the court: 1997 Grand Caravan and the debt thereon and she shall hold (Her ex) harmless for any payments thereon.

OK, fine pretty self explanatory. The decree also states:

Both parties shall promptly sign and deliver all documents reasonably necessary or appropriate and shall take all other steps reasonably necessary or appropriate to carry out the terms and intent of the court's orders herein.

Here's where the problem begins...

Her ex is listed as the sole owner of the van in question. In no way, shape or form is my wife, or has my wife ever been listed as an owner of this vehicle. Since the court "Set over to (My wife) as her sole property free and clear of any claim thereto by (Her ex)" that would tell me that her ex would have to sign over ownership of the van and her name be listed as the sole owner on the title, since the decree also states that "Both parties shall promptly sign and deliver all documents reasonably necessary or appropriate and shall take all other steps reasonably necessary or appropriate to carry out the terms and intent of the court's orders herein."

Here's where things start to unravel...

The plates for this vehicle expired in June of 2005. My wife, since she was not listed as an owner of the vehicle, was unable to renew the plates (In Indiana, you need the owner's social security number to renew plates). She told her ex this information and even offered to pay for renewing the plates, even though he had violated the divorce decree by refusing to sign the vehicle over in the first place. His response was pretty much "It's not my problem, I'm not doing anything." So, as a result of expired plates, the van was towed. The company that owned the van filed a lawsuit against him for the balance of the loan. His response was "It belongs to my ex wife," even though he never took any of the steps necessary to legally make her the owner, which was ordered by the divorce decree. He responded by filing his own suit against my wife for the amount that the company sued him for.

The problem with him filing a lawsuit against her is this: He filed in DeKalb County. My wife has lived in Allen County for the past 2 1/2 years and filed a motion to change venue, based on the fact that, as I understand it, and I could be wrong, a lawsuit is to be filed in the county nearest the defendant. There was an order on change of venue that states:
The court being duly advised finds the correct venue for this matter is Allen County, Indiana.

We got a letter in the mail from her ex today claiming that it should be heard in DeKalb, since the divorce was in DeKalb. As I understand it, the divorce and the lawsuit are two separate matters. There was no correspondence in the letter from the judge stating what decision was made. I assume that, since we received nothing from the judge in this, that until we DO get something from him, there is no further decision.

My questions are the following: First, Should this case be heard in Allen or DeKalb County? Granted, the divorce took place there, but the van was purchased in Allen County, my wife (the defendant) lives in Allen County and the lawfirm seeking judgement from him is located in Allen County. His claim is that it should be in DeKalb County, since "They (the lawfirm) filed the lawsuit against me in DeKalb County." I would assume that the reason they did this was because any suit is to be filed in the defendant's county, as I stated earlier.

Second, What are the chances that he (my wife's ex) would actually win a judgement like this? Yes, I know that the decree stated that the van was "her property and he is held harmless for any payments thereon," but, the decree also states that "Both parties shall promptly sign and deliver all documents reasonably necessary or appropriate and shall take all other steps reasonably necessary or appropriate to carry out the terms and intent of the court's orders herein." Also, if the vehicle was to be her "sole property," why are they suing him instead of her? Simple... He's still listed as the sole owner. His name, and only his name is listed on the title. Logic would tell me that, since he never took the steps necessary to fufill his end of the decree, she shouldn't be held liable. After all, him not transferring ownership to her made it IMPOSSIBLE for her to get the plates, since she was not the owner.

Any ideas on any of this??

-Bill
 


Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Why did your wife not file contempt against her ex. She should and have the two cases consolidated and heard in the county with jurisdiction over the divorce.
 

moburkes

Senior Member
Why did your wife not file contempt against her ex. She should and have the two cases consolidated and heard in the county with jurisdiction over the divorce.

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BILL, by the way: If your post has anything to do with your other posts, then it is usually easier for you to add a question to the previous thread, instead of starting another one.
 

BLeonard

Member
Why did your wife not file contempt against her ex. She should and have the two cases consolidated and heard in the county with jurisdiction over the divorce.

I would assume you mean contempt for not signing over the van... Up until about July of 2006, the divorce was very cordial. In July, her ex re-married and... well, you can guess what happened from there. She wants to avoid as much trouble as possible, and would rather not deal with the vehicle at all, since it's never been in her name. Even when they were married, he bought this van based on HIS income, and didn't even tell her about it until it was completed. It's not HIM she's after. She fufilled all of her responsibilities in the divorce decree. She doesn't feel she should be punished because he didn't do his part and, as a result, is now being sued.

Personally, I would have filed for contempt on that and about 10 other things that he's violated in the divorce decree. I'm not her, though. It's not my case to fight. I'm just concerned that she could get hit with this $4600 lawsuit that she had absolutely no control over. She couldn't put a gun to his head and force him to sign the van over, or even to get the plates. I like to think that I have a reasonable amout of common sense and, if I were a judge, I would think that he (her ex) made his own bed by not legally transferring the ownership of the vehicle, as he was instructed to do. My question is, would a judge think the same way?

-Bill
 

AL HR

Member
Let me see..
1) She didn't file contempt when he wouldn't change the title.
2) She stopped making payments on the van.
3) Because she didn't force him through the court system to get the title changed, it was towed for expired plates.

I really don't see why a judge would say that this was ok and she wasn't at fault. She didn't avail herself of the legal remedy available to her.

But hey, I'm not a judge...
 

BLeonard

Member
I've been reading through some past responses on similar cases when something came to mind, and I figured I'd ask. Before their divorce, my wife and her ex had a car and a van (the van is the one in dispute in this thread). However, her ex, without her knowledge, took the car she had been driving and traded it in for a new car, with a much larger monthly payment. I'm guessing his idea was, by having both vehicles (new car and van) solely in his name, he could prevent her from divorcing him. Hell, he even offered to "give" her the new car, if she stayed with him. Anyway, what I'm thinking is, since they were married when he traded "her" car in for a new car, would that make the new car a marital asset? And, if so, since there is nothing in the divorce decree "awarding" him this new vehicle, could she potentially fight him for this?The sad thing is, if he had simply signed over the title to the van, as ordered, none of this would be a problem.

Also, in regards to filing for contempt, she could still do so, correct? Or, is there a limit on how long you have to file for contempt? Trust me, this isn't the only thing she could file for, but it's the one that's relevant to this case.

-Bill
 

BLeonard

Member
Let me see..
1) She didn't file contempt when he wouldn't change the title.
2) She stopped making payments on the van.
3) Because she didn't force him through the court system to get the title changed, it was towed for expired plates.

I really don't see why a judge would say that this was ok and she wasn't at fault. She didn't avail herself of the legal remedy available to her.

But hey, I'm not a judge...

I see your point... I agree wholeheartedly that she should have filed for contempt. The fact of the matter is, the court order said to sign it over. He didn't. That's violating the divorce decree. And, as a direct result of him violating the divorce decree, the plates expired and the van was towed. She signed and fufilled every part of her end of the divorce decree. He did not. I would think violating the divorce decree would be the trump card here.

Again, I'm not saying she's 100% right in this matter. I'm saying that her not filing for contempt is not a violation of the divorce decree, while him not signing the title over is.

-Bill
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
I see your point... I agree wholeheartedly that she should have filed for contempt. The fact of the matter is, the court order said to sign it over. He didn't. That's violating the divorce decree. And, as a direct result of him violating the divorce decree, the plates expired and the van was towed. She signed and fufilled every part of her end of the divorce decree. He did not. I would think violating the divorce decree would be the trump card here.

Again, I'm not saying she's 100% right in this matter. I'm saying that her not filing for contempt is not a violation of the divorce decree, while him not signing the title over is.

-Bill

The biggest problem is that the van is already gone now....for good. The situation cannot be "fixed".

Yes, he acted like a jerk when refusing to do what was necessary to replate the van and change the ownership, but when she stopped making the payments she suddenly upped the ante dramatically.

Its too late for her, but for the sake of others reading this thread, she should have imediately filed for contempt against him as soon as he made it impossible for her to renew the plates.
 

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