VISA requirements for "Green Card" holders

[Stephen1]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? U.S. Law nation-wide

Looking for a little education here. This question comes after President Trump's recent Executive Order (EO) barring entry of persons from certain named countries. As the EO starts off talking about the need to better screen people applying for visas I have a question about visa applications for persons with "green cards".

Hypothetical: A person with a green card is planning to travel outside the U.S. and then return here. When do they apply for the visa to allow re-entry into the U.S.? Or does the fact that they have a green card automatically allow re-entry after (what used to be INS) confirms at the border who they are?

It seems to me that if I had a green card, had a house and job here and planned to travel outside the U.S., that I would have arranged that I would be able to return to that house and job prior to departing from the U.S. So whatever visa application I might have needed to do I would have completed prior to departure.

 

[CTU]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? U.S. Law nation-wide

Looking for a little education here. This question comes after President Trump's recent Executive Order (EO) barring entry of persons from certain named countries. As the EO starts off talking about the need to better screen people applying for visas I have a question about visa applications for persons with "green cards".

Hypothetical: A person with a green card is planning to travel outside the U.S. and then return here. When do they apply for the visa to allow re-entry into the U.S.? Or does the fact that they have a green card automatically allow re-entry after (what used to be INS) confirms at the border who they are?

It seems to me that if I had a green card, had a house and job here and planned to travel outside the U.S., that I would have arranged that I would be able to return to that house and job prior to departing from the U.S. So whatever visa application I might have needed to do I would have completed prior to departure.

Prior to the other day, presenting your green-card did guarantee reentry unless you were gone for an extended period of time (in which case you'd need to apply for a reentry permit before you leave, or a returning resident visa which would be a royal pita no matter what).

After that other day ... flip a coin, get out your tarot cards, ask your dog .. you'll probably get equally valid responses from all three.

 

[Insane Jane]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? U.S. Law nation-wide

....It seems to me that if I had a green card, had a house and job here and planned to travel outside the U.S., that I would have arranged that I would be able to return to that house and job prior to departing from the U.S. So whatever visa application I might have needed to do I would have completed prior to departure.

Sounds like it would work that way, but it doesn't. Forget about trying to get an answer anytime soon from the US department of immigration right now.
Call the embassy of the country you are from for current rules.
I knew someone from Australia with a green card that could go over the boarder into Canada but knew that they wouldn't be allowed to reenter the US from Canada. Doesn't make any sense to me, but that is the way it is.

 

[CTU]

Sounds like it would work that way, but it doesn't. Forget about trying to get an answer anytime soon from the US department of immigration right now.
Call the embassy of the country you are from for current rules.
I knew someone from Austria with a green card that could go over the boarder into Canada but knew that they wouldn't be allowed to reenter the US from Canada. Doesn't make any sense to me, but that is the way it is.

What are you blabbering about this time?

 

[Mass_Shyster]

A person with a green card is planning to travel outside the U.S. and then return here.

As of right now, don't take that trip.

Apply for citizenship, and don't travel until you are a US Citizen.

From the executive order:

I hereby proclaim that the immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens from countries referred to in section 217(a)(12) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12), would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and I hereby suspend entry into the United States, as immigrants and nonimmigrants, of such persons for 90 days from the date of this order (excluding those foreign nationals traveling on diplomatic visas, North Atlantic Treaty Organization visas, C-2 visas for travel to the United Nations, and G-1, G-2, G-3, and G-4 visas).

 

[Just Blue]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? U.S. Law nation-wide

Looking for a little education here. This question comes after President Trump's recent Executive Order (EO) barring entry of persons from certain named countries. As the EO starts off talking about the need to better screen people applying for visas I have a question about visa applications for persons with "green cards".

Hypothetical: A person with a green card is planning to travel outside the U.S. and then return here. When do they apply for the visa to allow re-entry into the U.S.? Or does the fact that they have a green card automatically allow re-entry after (what used to be INS) confirms at the border who they are?

It seems to me that if I had a green card, had a house and job here and planned to travel outside the U.S., that I would have arranged that I would be able to return to that house and job prior to departing from the U.S. So whatever visa application I might have needed to do I would have completed prior to departure.

IMHO
do not leave the country if you want to get back in. The RO in place is just for a few days...Till this atrocious EO is trached by the legal system...Be cautious.

 

[Insane Jane]

IMHO
do not leave the country if you want to get back in. The RO in place is just for a few days...Till this atrocious EO is trached by the legal system...Be cautious.

Sounds like wise advice

 

[Stephen1]

Prior to the other day, presenting your green-card did guarantee reentry unless you were gone for an extended period of time (in which case you'd need to apply for a reentry permit before you leave, or a returning resident visa which would be a royal pita no matter what).

After that other day ... flip a coin, get out your tarot cards, ask your dog .. you'll probably get equally valid responses from all three.

This is what I was asking about - prior to the EO how it did work.

And I appreciate the remarks about how it might work now "flip a coin, get out your tarot cards, ask your dog".

My biggest issue about this is how we have already vetted people and allowed them to live here and all of a sudden the rules change while you are away from home.

I guess if I went to the "wrong" country and the Prez issued an EO about it then my U.S. Passport might not automatically get me back into the country. Wow.

 

[Just Blue]

This is what I was asking about - prior to the EO how it did work.

And I appreciate the remarks about how it might work now "flip a coin, get out your tarot cards, ask your dog".

My biggest issue about this is how we have already vetted people and allowed them to live here and all of a sudden the rules change while you are away from home.

I guess if I went to the "wrong" country and the Prez issued an EO about it then my U.S. Passport might not automatically get me back into the country. Wow.

Yes. It is just a "wow" worthy action on behalf of the "president". I am still in shock an' awe of this past week.