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SRREED

Junior Member
What is the name of your state? Virginia

I am the CP of a 15 year old and a 12 year old. My husband left in February and filled for divorce. He moved to another state. I have full custody and his has every other weekend visitation.

My question is this. He has only visited the children one time, which was in July. He quit calling the kids in August. A month ago I received a contempt of court letter setting a court date for last week. The contempt was for not letting him see his children per the visitation agreement and for not paying the mortgage payment. We went to court and I showed proved that I had paid every mortgage payment that I was ordered to pay. (The problem is that there is a two-month gap from when I was ordered to pay and when he quit paying it. I have not worked since our first child was born.)

There is no way that I can prove that I have not prevented him from seeing the kids except if the kids told the judge themselves. I have kept a diary of every call that he has made to the kids and what days that they actually spoke with him. I have tried every thing I can think of to try to get the kids to call him even if he doesn't call them. They have not. They are upset with right now for their own reasons.

When the judge told him that he would pick the kids up on Dec 26 at 9 am and drop them off on Jan 2 at 5 pm he asked the judge what if they wouldn’t come with me? He was ordered by the judge to bring the kids to his new house for the week. He told the judge that he didn't think they would want to go, probably because I had turned them against him. The judge told me that if the kids did not want to go that I should let them tell their dad, that way I couldn't be blamed. Here is another problem their dad is living with some one else who has a child of her own. If he brings them to his new house he either can ask the woman and her child to move out for a week (it's her house and it's the day after Christmas) or he can bring them their and they will stay with them thus showing that he is committing adultery. I have not accused him of this in court. I just said that I had a problem with them going to his new house due to his current living situation which he replied that he could understand that. (This was back in June when we went to court) I didn't say anything last week. The judge decided to appoint a Guardian Ad Litem to talk with the kids to make sure that I wasn’t doing anything to prevent visitation and to find out why they didn’t want to see their dad. The judge told their dad that he would not force the kids to see him if they didn’t want to and that he needed work on his relationship with them.

Here is my question. In the future what do I need to do to protect myself from these visitation issues? I can’t force him to visit but how can I force the kids to go when he does want to see them. Is this not an issue between them that does not even involve me? They don’t talk to each other so how can they fix things between them? Of course since I am the CP I am the one to blame I guess. But there has to be some way that I can protect myself from this blame. I have not done anything to make the kids angry with their father. They do know that he is living with someone because back in March we drove to his house to talk to him and he called the police to get us removed from his property. They saw the lady and her son through the window. Until then I didn’t know about it. I have not mentioned this to the judge yet.

I guess I should mention that I do not have a lawyer because I can’t afford the $3000 advance that they want. The judge told me to get a lawyer and he would make my husband pay for the lawyer but I still need have the $3000 advance. Spouse makes in the 6 figures. I make $0.
It seems that my husband and the judge are using the kids as pawns in this divorce. In all honesty I just want this over with and to not hate my husband when it is. He is the only one who experienced two of the happiest days of my life, the birth of our children. No one else shares those memories and why would I want to hate that person.
Thank you for your help
 


SRREED

Junior Member
I am sorry this was so long. I quess I should also say that I have full custody because my husband sued at first for custody but when we went to court his lawyer said they were dropping it because my husband thought the kids were better off with me. Also last week I told my husband that I would go get the kids and bring them to him so that he could talk to them and he said no just to have them call him. This was in front of the judge.

thanks again.
 
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stealth2

Under the Radar Member
One thing you could do is make sure you have a third party present when he comes for the kids. Preferably someone who is unrelated to you - do you have a friend who would come over or a neighbor who would be willing to observe (and if necessary testify)? You could also videotape the pick-ups.

Sit down with your kids and tell them what the judge said. Also explain to them that while they may be angry at their father, the only way for each of them to resolve the issues is by seeing him/talking to him. Give some thought to having the kids see a counselor so that they have an impartial person to talk to - the counselor may well try to get Dad involved to try and sort things out.
 

SRREED

Junior Member
I just received papers from my husband’s lawyer with the changes for the Pendent Lite Order from the court date the other day.

It states:

“Plaintiff shall have holiday visitation with the minor children of the parties from December 26, 2004 until January 2, 2005. Plaintiff shall be permitted to pick up the children on December 26, 2004, by 5:00 pm and shall return the children to Defendant’s residence by 5:00 pm on January 2, 2005.”

I am not very worried about the return time; if they are a little late I hope this just means that they are all having fun together. I just want to clarify the wording about the December 26, 2004, by 5:00 pm.. Does this mean any time before 5PM? I don’t want to have to stay home all day just waiting to see when he will come.

One other question I have is that it states that I will provide to him all answers to interrogatories and production of documents by “X” date. But it only states that he will provide his Answers to interrogatories by “X” date; nothing about production of documents. Does the omission of production of documents matter?

Thank you for any help
 

SeattlMike

Junior Member
Can you call legal aid or any lawyer for a freebie consult.....???

I don't know what state you're in, but in my state, I found that family court just kinda sorta pays attention to dates and times, and offers SUBSTANTIAL leeway on enforcing time and date violations. I found this out the hard way, thinking that it was just like the contract law I've been bound to in my job for years.......in contracts there's little leeway.....
 

SRREED

Junior Member
I don't have a lawyer, due to money restictions I am unable to pay the $3000 retainer. I called his lawyer and she says that is what the judge said. I don't trust her because she filed the Pentent Lite order with the incorrect date that support should have started even though the judge told her to correct the date to begin 2 months earlier. Plus she yells at me when we have been in court. (even my husband told her to calm down the last time we were in court) That is why I am making sure that everything is correct on this order.

Our mortgage is in foreclosure becuase 2 months were not paid before we went to court. (same 2 month that were the incorrect date support should have started) She is trying to muddy the water so that she can get more money from spouse. Another example of changing the judges order is that she put in this order that utilities were to be put in my name by January 15. Judge never said that. She brought me to court for contempt saying that I had made no mortgage payments even though I have made all from August until December (court order dated August 5). And that I was not allowing visitation even though he never came to visit in the first place. Nor did I ever tell him he couldn't. My spouse makes over $150,000 a year not including perks she wants her part I quess. She puts whatever she wants into orders so that we have to go back to court. I am trying to decide what I can live with and what I shouldn't have to before I sign it. She won't make the changes but I can send my own Order to the Judge and we will have to go back again.

Another thing she did was the judge said fine if he is worried about paying the house payment that he can start to making the payment January 1, 2005. The next payment is due January 1. Lawyer put court order "As of January 1, 2005 Plaintiff shall pay mortgage payment of $$$$$ per month directly to the mortgage company" Does this mean that he will make the January 1 mortgage payment or just as of that date he will pay directly to them? Plus if it is in foreclosure what is there to pay. (the money was deducted from my support amount that I will get) If she hadn't filed an incorrect order to begin with I would trust her more.

Thanks you
 

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