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45Frank

Member
What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Live in NC Ex in NJ

Her goes. What's the deal with the Income tax intercept. I found out that NJ has had her Tax return for five months now since beginning of March. They tell me I can't get it till Nov. 08. Everything I've read says six months. The stimulus money they say they don't have but it's sent to me directly no holds, I didn't get it. Ex owes $20,000.00 plus and hasn't paid in 5 years not a penny, there are purge amounts set but Judges let her walk every time three now.
Here's the problem the Ex is a con artist, she in 04 and 05 I think it was called the state of NJ and had them keep my income tax returns took me a year to get mine and they released hers I didn't get a penny and had to wait a year for mine. She had somehow convinced them the order was wrong.
How or can I contact the IRS to see where my check is ? stimulus
And has anyone ever had to wait 9 months to get the tax intercept ? They told me it's allot of money.
Why can't the CS enforcement go into her tax forms and find out where she works and garnish her pay, I was told they can't do that, why not ?
 


Isis1

Senior Member
are you absolutely sure that the ex doesn't OWE money to the IRS instead?

you can call the IRS about YOUR taxes.

Does CSE have a copy of her tax forms? is she even employed with the same company for the past years? CSE has procedures they need to follow as well. they can't violate laws. it's not all just one entity with a super computer handling all matters.
 

45Frank

Member
OK called the IRS just hours ago, they will tell me nothing siting privacy issues. I explained the CS office told me they don't handle the stimulus checks he said thats not true they send them to the off-set dept. requesting them. So I guess there's no way to find out where the check went.

CSE does not have a copy of tax forms only amounts that have been intercepted with dates. Also wouldn't tell me where she works or where the W-2's came from. Why can't the CSE look into the tax's them garnish her wages ?
The IRS said they also shouldn't hold the tax's at all just forward them to me.

My tax's as well as the DMV held my money in 03 and 04. It took nearly a year to get it straightened out.
She is that much of a con artist.
 

Isis1

Senior Member
i got to be honest, from what you stated, i think you are giving your ex WAY too much credit.
 

45Frank

Member
My ex is the ultimate conwomen that's why there's at least 7 felony warrants in NJ and one in Pa. all for fraud, forgery, theft and so on. All are related to cons.
She also has a cousin who works in the probation dept.
Also how she has walked out of court at least three times with purge amounts of up to eight thoushand dollars. The last time some how her Attorney got Judges switched while I waited on the line for an over the phone hearing. The caseworker came on the line and told me things where switched and she wasn't notified till she was gone.
Anyway to my Questions ?



i got to be honest, from what you stated, i think you are giving your ex WAY too much credit.
 

CourtClerk

Senior Member
Does CSE have a copy of her tax forms?
Even if they did, what will it tell them other than she made money the year before? I'm reading this and the first thing that comes to mind is that you are WAY over your head answering this. Look at your husband's tax return that is submitted to the IRS from last year. I don't even have to pull mine out to tell you that no where on it does it mention where I earned the money that I reported. No where.
 

CourtClerk

Senior Member
OK called the IRS just hours ago, they will tell me nothing siting privacy issues.
That is correct. There are strict laws in place to protect tax payers. The information they are allowed to give even CSE is severely limited without a court order. In fact, I don't think these days they will tell them ANYTHING.
I explained the CS office told me they don't handle the stimulus checks he said thats not true they send them to the off-set dept. requesting them. So I guess there's no way to find out where the check went.
You really ought to get in touch with the ombudsperson and see if they can lend you some assistance.
CSE does not have a copy of tax forms only amounts that have been intercepted with dates. Also wouldn't tell me where she works or where the W-2's came from. Why can't the CSE look into the tax's them garnish her wages ?
One more time, tax forms do NOT tell you where one is working, it simply tells you how much that individual reported making. CSE is NOT the IRS, and they cannot just look at a person's tax returns, unless that person is turning them over to CSE themselves, which obviously hasn't happened. As for them giving you information about her, they are not obligated, and in fact, are probably barred by law from giving you information about her. If they are enforcing the case, then the case is them v. her, what they know about her, they cannot tell you without a court order giving them permission to release said information.
The IRS said they also shouldn't hold the tax's at all just forward them to me.
They should in fact hold it to make sure there are no other claims against the money which may take priority, other taxes being one.
My tax's as well as the DMV held my money in 03 and 04. It took nearly a year to get it straightened out.
She is that much of a con artist.
She didn't hold your money. The agency that had it did.
 

45Frank

Member
Thanks Court Clerk

Her tax form will tell her where she did work from where the W-2 came from, shouldn't they being the enforcing agency trying to find this out or do I have to file a motion for them to get her tax returns ?

Who's ombudsman ? I was going to work my way up the food chain at the CSE. Makes no sense someone is wrong as far as the stimulus check ? otherwise nobody will ever find out where it went or even was cashed.

As far as holding the check every place I looked said 6 months CSE is saying 8 or 9 ?

In 03 and 04 she did have a hand in them keeping my rebate and releasing hers, The off-set program told me at the time they were authorized saying the CS case was reversed, never told me or wouldn't say how. I know you need a court order to change things. Her cousin does work in the CSE enforcement (probation) and I have proved she is a snake just like her. She was yelled at by a Judge at least once and was a political appointee and is strong union, they will never get rid of her.

Do you know anything about how long they actually can hold the taxes ?
Also do you know anything about the stimulus checks who forwarded them ?
 

TinkerBelleLuvr

Senior Member
Her tax form will tell her where she did work from where the W-2 came from, shouldn't they being the enforcing agency trying to find this out or do I have to file a motion for them to get her tax returns ?
If you were to get a transcript from the IRS on a tax return, it would NOT include the W-2's. In fact, I made the mistake one year of sending my tax return to the IRS WITHOUT the w-2's. Guess what. I still received my refund ON TIME.

If I send my tax return in electronically, it does NOT include W-2's. Ain't no little piece of paper going thru my phone line.
 

LdiJ

Senior Member
Thanks Court Clerk

Her tax form will tell her where she did work from where the W-2 came from, shouldn't they being the enforcing agency trying to find this out or do I have to file a motion for them to get her tax returns ?

The IRS is prohibited by federal law, from releasing anything to the CSE other than the amount of the refund.

Who's ombudsman ? I was going to work my way up the food chain at the CSE. Makes no sense someone is wrong as far as the stimulus check ? otherwise nobody will ever find out where it went or even was cashed.

I don't know who the ombudsman is, but the only person who can make inquiries about the stimulus check is your ex. The IRS won't tell the CSE anything about that either. Its also possible that your ex doesn't have a stimulous check yet, some people fell through the cracks at the IRS and they are still playing catch up. Its also possible that the IRS goofed and gave it to her.

As far as holding the check every place I looked said 6 months CSE is saying 8 or 9 ?

You should definitely go up the food chain at the CSE regarding that.

In 03 and 04 she did have a hand in them keeping my rebate and releasing hers, The off-set program told me at the time they were authorized saying the CS case was reversed, never told me or wouldn't say how. I know you need a court order to change things. Her cousin does work in the CSE enforcement (probation) and I have proved she is a snake just like her. She was yelled at by a Judge at least once and was a political appointee and is strong union, they will never get rid of her.

Do you know anything about how long they actually can hold the taxes ?
Also do you know anything about the stimulus checks who forwarded them ?

I would have to know why they are holding the check before I could answer that question. The main reason that they hold them, is if an injured spouse form can be filed or the return could be amended, and the refund smaller, the IRS will ask for some or all of the money back. Therefore states usually keep them long enough to feel safe that no injured spouse form or amendment will be filed.
 

Isis1

Senior Member
Even if they did, what will it tell them other than she made money the year before? I'm reading this and the first thing that comes to mind is that you are WAY over your head answering this. Look at your husband's tax return that is submitted to the IRS from last year. I don't even have to pull mine out to tell you that no where on it does it mention where I earned the money that I reported. No where.

i apologize. my point was on CSE not having access to all this information that OP is assuming they have control over. every entity has their own procedures. CSE has to go throught the same procedures to get information from the IRS as a layman would. it's not some huge access system than bypasses all laws and just "looks stuff up"
 

CourtClerk

Senior Member
I don't know who the ombudsman is,
Here is the information for the State of New Jersey... they will often help with issues between CSE and the courts and the parents...

Office of the Ombudsman
Shazeeda Samsudeen, Ombudsman, Room 101
50 West Market Street, Newark, NJ 07102
Ph: 973-693-5728 Fax: 973-693-5726
Send us email

Information and Community Relations Center, Room 132
Kimberly Cicala - 973-693-5725
Yesenia Rios - 973-693-5774

Family Information Desk, 1st Floor
Wendy Maldonado - 973-693-6678
212 Washington Street, Newark, NJ 07102




The Ombudsman is a neutral staff person who answers questions, addresses concerns from the public and is responsible for enhancing customer service in the courts. The Ombudsman provides a bridge between the courts and the community to enhance public access and improve customer service. Staff in the Office of the Ombudsman answer questions about all court divisions, provide additional assistance to court users who may not understand the status of their court case, the court forms or need referral information about agencies and organizations that offer legal as well as social services to the community. Two of the employees on staff in the office are bilingual. Although staff in the Office are unable to provide legal advice, because court staff must be neutral and impartial, they can help guide court users through the system with as much ease as possible.
 

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