JadedJewels
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What is the name of your state? CAI was looking for some advice, however, after reading some of theharshness in peoples posts, I am afraid to ask anything.
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What is the name of your state? CAI was looking for some advice, however, after reading some of theharshness in peoples posts, I am afraid to ask anything.
seniorjudge
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Be not afraid....JadedJewels said:
I was looking for some advice, however, after reading some of theharshness in peoples posts, I am afraid to ask anything.
JadedJewels
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Terrified is more like it!!!
I also have a son who is awol. And yes I am aware he needs to turn himself in, however, there are some things that have come to light (even before he left his post) that I need to figure out how to handle. No, aside from leaving he hasn't broken any laws. Actually, he's a remarkable boy for everything he has been through since he was 4.
I cant seem to figure out where his recruiters command station is (could partly be due to lack of sleep, net surfing for answers) I have a copy of my son's "contract", and after reading the MCM and UCMJ (cover to cover at least 3 times) and articles dealing with Fraudulant Enlistment/Falsifying Documents, my sons recruiter plays a huge part in where my son now finds himself, and my son had no idea of this recruiters actions. I also intend on contacting my congress(wo)man (cant remember who that is right now either but easy enough to find out) and trying to get them involved.
I also have some emails into some Civilian Military Attorneys, and am waiting to hear back from them. I dont want to go to far into things or say too much (that confidentiality thing) so I guess I am just kinda hoping someone has ideas of other things I could do.
I also have a son who is awol. And yes I am aware he needs to turn himself in, however, there are some things that have come to light (even before he left his post) that I need to figure out how to handle. No, aside from leaving he hasn't broken any laws. Actually, he's a remarkable boy for everything he has been through since he was 4.
I cant seem to figure out where his recruiters command station is (could partly be due to lack of sleep, net surfing for answers) I have a copy of my son's "contract", and after reading the MCM and UCMJ (cover to cover at least 3 times) and articles dealing with Fraudulant Enlistment/Falsifying Documents, my sons recruiter plays a huge part in where my son now finds himself, and my son had no idea of this recruiters actions. I also intend on contacting my congress(wo)man (cant remember who that is right now either but easy enough to find out) and trying to get them involved.
I also have some emails into some Civilian Military Attorneys, and am waiting to hear back from them. I dont want to go to far into things or say too much (that confidentiality thing) so I guess I am just kinda hoping someone has ideas of other things I could do.
If your son went AWOL from training status and is away for more then 30 day's he is probably DFR (Dropped from rolls) and has a Federal warrant out for him being in "Deserter status". He can turn himself in at any Military base and he will be taken to the PCF(Personal control facility) at Ft. Sill OK and most likely be chapter 10 out of the Army with an "other then honorable" disscharge. If there is no warrant for him and he is not DRF then they will return him to his unit.
Since you have not told his story,I can only assume he is only AWOL.
Please tell him to turn him self in ASAP to avoid further problems.
Since you have not told his story,I can only assume he is only AWOL.
Please tell him to turn him self in ASAP to avoid further problems.
JadedJewels
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Uhhhhhhhhh
Like I said, I know he needs to turn himself in. He hasnt reached 30 days (yet), and he told me when he called a couple of weeks ago, that he called his DS (same one who notified me my son was AWOL) and told him he is coming back, that he basically got scared and needed time to think.
Cant remember if I put it in my post earlier or not, but a couple days ago he called and said he might come here to see his family before he turns himself in. (Crossing my fingers!)
When my son was at his post, he tried numerous times to do the chain of command thing and get help. His DS's sent him to psycho, who inquired to his time in, and responded with "well you can definitely still go home". However NO ONE made any real moves to help my child. Do you have any idea what its like to be thousands of miles from your child, know they are hurting, I mean he was even cutting his arms, making himself bleed, because it made him "feel better". NO ONE would help him.
That is still not everything, and, as I said before, I cant post the entire story here because of the confidentiality thing. I know my son needs to turn himself in. I just wanted to know if, aside from what I posted earlier, anyone had any ideas on what I can do to help my son.
(Oh I missed one thing earlier. I pulled his JAG's number offline last night. When he calls I am giving it to him and telling him to call them.)
So, anyone have any new ideas?.... Sorry if I sound testy...... you would understand if you knew how much sleep I HAVENT gotten lately.
Think I might try and lay down for a bit before my younger 2 come in from school. Definitely wont sleep once they get here until they are in bed.
Like I said, I know he needs to turn himself in. He hasnt reached 30 days (yet), and he told me when he called a couple of weeks ago, that he called his DS (same one who notified me my son was AWOL) and told him he is coming back, that he basically got scared and needed time to think.
Cant remember if I put it in my post earlier or not, but a couple days ago he called and said he might come here to see his family before he turns himself in. (Crossing my fingers!)
When my son was at his post, he tried numerous times to do the chain of command thing and get help. His DS's sent him to psycho, who inquired to his time in, and responded with "well you can definitely still go home". However NO ONE made any real moves to help my child. Do you have any idea what its like to be thousands of miles from your child, know they are hurting, I mean he was even cutting his arms, making himself bleed, because it made him "feel better". NO ONE would help him.
That is still not everything, and, as I said before, I cant post the entire story here because of the confidentiality thing. I know my son needs to turn himself in. I just wanted to know if, aside from what I posted earlier, anyone had any ideas on what I can do to help my son.
(Oh I missed one thing earlier. I pulled his JAG's number offline last night. When he calls I am giving it to him and telling him to call them.)
So, anyone have any new ideas?.... Sorry if I sound testy...... you would understand if you knew how much sleep I HAVENT gotten lately.
Think I might try and lay down for a bit before my younger 2 come in from school. Definitely wont sleep once they get here until they are in bed.
BelizeBreeze
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Which he could have done when he was off-duty.JadedJewels said:
if he makes it that far without being picked up by the police.
He is no longer a child.
do YOU have any idea what it's like to be knee-deep in blood and rain and bodies not yet dead and no one to help you?
Then why do you expect an answer when you withhold facts?
And that would be the first smart thing he's done
JadedJewels
Junior Member
Yeppers!!!!
Sorry, cant sleep. Forgot.... I have to get my homework done for college tomorrow morning.
Thought I would respond to BB and Pojo.......
1. I was hoping for some advice that I don't already know. (I have the MCM and UCMJ..... I can totally read it.... and omg.... I even understand it)
2. You do not know me or my son, so you have no right to be condescending. I asked for NEW ideas, not your personal attacks on myself or my son.
3. I am NOT stupid enough to divulge everything in a forum, where someone from my son's company/battalion/unit/station could "drop in" and read what they want into what I say and possibly use it against him. Nor am I foolish enough to put it where people who are cruel judgemental and self-righteous could see it and be vindictive enough to cause even more problems for him.
4. No matter how old he gets, he will ALWAYS be my child.
5. I have no idea what its like to be in a bloody mess with not yet dead bodies, but then, I didnt come here out of need to learn what thats like. I came here out of the need to learn if there is anything else I can do to help my son. I am his mother and regardless of what you think it is my GOD GIVEN right to do all I can to protect him.
6. As I have lived many places in the US you can be assured that my son is somewhere safe. Its GREAT to have friends who do actually care for friends. If he wants to come here, he will make it, and our friends will see to it he does. But thank you for your warm fuzzy thoughts.
7. Now, in finality, because I am disgusted with the "holier than thou" "I dont know you but I have a right to judge you" attitude exuding from some people, THANK YOU for proving my original comment about posting here correct, and Judge apparently mistaken.
GOD is the one I worry about my son and I making happy.
Oh and whats that scripture?????
"Judge not lest you be judged yourself"
At least I can honestly say, I will never lose sleep because I was intentionally cruel and malicious to another human being.
You can call me a horrible mother (you'd only be lying to yourself) you can call me trash. At least this Trashy mother knows how to sincerely love. I hope that if any of you ever have/had children, you never meet people like yourselves if they make a mistake. It must be awesome to be so perfect!
Sorry, cant sleep. Forgot.... I have to get my homework done for college tomorrow morning.
Thought I would respond to BB and Pojo.......
1. I was hoping for some advice that I don't already know. (I have the MCM and UCMJ..... I can totally read it.... and omg.... I even understand it)
2. You do not know me or my son, so you have no right to be condescending. I asked for NEW ideas, not your personal attacks on myself or my son.
3. I am NOT stupid enough to divulge everything in a forum, where someone from my son's company/battalion/unit/station could "drop in" and read what they want into what I say and possibly use it against him. Nor am I foolish enough to put it where people who are cruel judgemental and self-righteous could see it and be vindictive enough to cause even more problems for him.
4. No matter how old he gets, he will ALWAYS be my child.
5. I have no idea what its like to be in a bloody mess with not yet dead bodies, but then, I didnt come here out of need to learn what thats like. I came here out of the need to learn if there is anything else I can do to help my son. I am his mother and regardless of what you think it is my GOD GIVEN right to do all I can to protect him.
6. As I have lived many places in the US you can be assured that my son is somewhere safe. Its GREAT to have friends who do actually care for friends. If he wants to come here, he will make it, and our friends will see to it he does. But thank you for your warm fuzzy thoughts.
7. Now, in finality, because I am disgusted with the "holier than thou" "I dont know you but I have a right to judge you" attitude exuding from some people, THANK YOU for proving my original comment about posting here correct, and Judge apparently mistaken.
GOD is the one I worry about my son and I making happy.
Oh and whats that scripture?????
"Judge not lest you be judged yourself"
At least I can honestly say, I will never lose sleep because I was intentionally cruel and malicious to another human being.
You can call me a horrible mother (you'd only be lying to yourself) you can call me trash. At least this Trashy mother knows how to sincerely love. I hope that if any of you ever have/had children, you never meet people like yourselves if they make a mistake. It must be awesome to be so perfect!
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