Xtra-curricular activities and visitation

[sja3901]

What is the name of your state?

MA

In our order it states that father is not to interfer with childs extra-curricular activities. My daughter attends sunday school and is involved with our church jr. choir. Dad has decided to make a fuss because he claims it takes time away from him. Would these be considered extra-curricular activities? She has been attending church since before we got this new order. She just recently started attending jr. choir. It is only a 15 minute difference in the time I drop her back off to him versus before.

Thanks

 

[acmb05]

What is the name of your state?

MA

In our order it states that father is not to interfer with childs extra-curricular activities. My daughter attends sunday school and is involved with our church jr. choir. Dad has decided to make a fuss because he claims it takes time away from him. Would these be considered extra-curricular activities? She has been attending church since before we got this new order. She just recently started attending jr. choir. It is only a 15 minute difference in the time I drop her back off to him versus before.

Thanks

Does this mean activities she was involved in when the order was made? I am not sure but one would think that this did not give you the option to enroll her in any activities you want on dads time.

It's only 15 minutes this time but what happens when she has something else she wants to sign up for or the Choir has a concert and he losses a whole day because of it.

 

[stealth2]

Have you offered to extend his return time?

 

[BelizeBreeze]

What is the name of your state?

MA

In our order it states that father is not to interfer with childs extra-curricular activities. My daughter attends sunday school and is involved with our church jr. choir. Dad has decided to make a fuss because he claims it takes time away from him. Would these be considered extra-curricular activities? She has been attending church since before we got this new order. She just recently started attending jr. choir. It is only a 15 minute difference in the time I drop her back off to him versus before.

Thanks

Based solely on the facts presented in your post, the father have a case and a strong one.

 

[sja3901]

Have you offered to extend his return time?

By 15 minutes? No but I most certainly would if that would pacify him. But it won't. If he signed an order stating he would not interfer than he shouldn't interfer. He is more than welcome at our church. No one has ever stopped him from being present at any function for her.

 

[sja3901]

Based solely on the facts presented in your post, the father have a case and a strong one.

It would be great if you would explain how he has a strong case.

 

[ceara19]

It would be great if you would explain how he has a strong case.

For starters, the court is not going to get involved in any matter that concerns religion.

 

[sja3901]

Does this mean activities she was involved in when the order was made? I am not sure but one would think that this did not give you the option to enroll her in any activities you want on dads time.

It's only 15 minutes this time but what happens when she has something else she wants to sign up for or the Choir has a concert and he losses a whole day because of it.

I'm trying to understand your reasoning or what your statement is but having difficulty. My daughter should be afforded the same opportunities as any other child regardless of whether her parents are together or not. That is the right of every child. He should be actively participating in her life not the other way around. So what happens when other things come up is that he should be making sure she gets there and has a great time. That is what should happen.

 

[sja3901]

For starters, the court is not going to get involved in any matter that concerns religion.

Correct, which put the situation where? Would it be considered under extra-curricular?

 

[ceara19]

Correct, which put the situation where? Would it be considered under extra-curricular?

Being a member of a CHURCH choir is a religious matter. If it were the school choir or a community choir, it might be viewed differently.

 

[CJane]

I'm trying to understand your reasoning or what your statement is but having difficulty. My daughter should be afforded the same opportunities as any other child regardless of whether her parents are together or not. That is the right of every child. He should be actively participating in her life not the other way around. So what happens when other things come up is that he should be making sure she gets there and has a great time. That is what should happen.

Really? Why?

That's like saying she has the 'right' to have both of her parents there for breakfast every morning. Y'all divorced and her life changed. If Ex agrees that Jr Choir is an extra-curricular that falls under the agreement he signed, then fine. Otherwise, it's just a church activity that you signed her up for that he doesn't want to lose time for, and that interferes with his already limited time with his child.

Dad has a strong case because 1) the court isn't gong to weigh in on a religion issue, 2) extra-curriculars are generally things like city sports leagues, school teams, etc - not church activities and 3) I'm betting you didn't discuss this with him and get his agreement that you could infringe on his time this way.

 

[sja3901]

Being a member of a CHURCH choir is a religious matter. If it were the school choir or a community choir, it might be viewed differently.

So it wouldn't be considered extra-curricular. But if the court won't even hear matters concerning religion than there is nothing he can do.

 

[sja3901]

Really? Why?

That's like saying she has the 'right' to have both of her parents there for breakfast every morning. Y'all divorced and her life changed. If Ex agrees that Jr Choir is an extra-curricular that falls under the agreement he signed, then fine. Otherwise, it's just a church activity that you signed her up for that he doesn't want to lose time for, and that interferes with his already limited time with his child.

Dad has a strong case because 1) the court isn't gong to weigh in on a religion issue, 2) extra-curriculars are generally things like city sports leagues, school teams, etc - not church activities and 3) I'm betting you didn't discuss this with him and get his agreement that you could infringe on his time this way.

Actually I told him about it and he said fine. Didn't make a fuss until his girl friend did.

"That's like saying she has the 'right' to have both of her parents there for breakfast every morning. Y'all divorced and her life changed." True, if breakfast fell under extra-curricular activity that is.

 

[ceara19]

So it wouldn't be considered extra-curricular. But if the court won't even hear matters concerning religion than there is nothing he can do.

He can petition the court to hold YOU in contempt of the court order, which you ARE violating.

 

[acmb05]

I'm trying to understand your reasoning or what your statement is but having difficulty. My daughter should be afforded the same opportunities as any other child regardless of whether her parents are together or not. That is the right of every child. He should be actively participating in her life not the other way around. So what happens when other things come up is that he should be making sure she gets there and has a great time. That is what should happen.

My statement is based on when you went to court and got this order that dad agreed not to interfere with her extra curricular activities and when the judge signed off on it it would include any activities she was currently enrolled in at the time of the order.

The order does not give you the right to add more activities as you see fit and just expect dad to agree to it. If this were the case then you could sign her up for all kinds of activities on dads time and he would never get to see her because he could not interfere with them or he would spend all of his time runnning her around to all these activities.