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CJane

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Well, I was at my moms house when I got the first text, and my house for the 2nd.

Visitation was suspended in Dads county, and the TROs were issued in My county. I hope I didn't screw up and file wrong

HERE, you file for an RO in the county in which YOU (the protected) live. So I think you're good.

Now... take the text that Dad sent admitting that his wife beat YOU up to the police chief that said he'd "personally" handle this.

THEN go back to the judge in YOUR county and explain to him that the judge in the custody-related county couldn't restrain Dad from YOU, but did suspend visitation - but that Dad has to be served with all of that stuff, and he's continuing to send you harassing messages, etc. See if he'll issue an RO NOW based on that.
 


As you know, I went "researching" and was trying to figure out he whole timeline thing.

Can I assume that when he served you and parenting time was established, that it landed up including a child support order?

Yes, Dad was ordered to pay 242/mo and had a judgement of 2422 for 10 months of arreages. I told the judge I was willing to forgive them, but he said No. Child still needed to eat, be diapered, clothed, have a roof over his head, etc... Whether dad saw him in that 10months or not.

His first CS payment was due 6/15 and I didn't see any money until 8/28.
 

TinkerBelleLuvr

Senior Member
HERE, you file for an RO in the county in which YOU (the protected) live. So I think you're good.

Now... take the text that Dad sent admitting that his wife beat YOU up to the police chief that said he'd "personally" handle this.

THEN go back to the judge in YOUR county and explain to him that the judge in the custody-related county couldn't restrain Dad from YOU, but did suspend visitation - but that Dad has to be served with all of that stuff, and he's continuing to send you harassing messages, etc. See if he'll issue an RO NOW based on that.
Keep your phone very handy tomorrow morning cuz chances are that dad is going to be texting you.
 
Is the doctor reporting the medical neglect to CPS?

She didn't directly say that she was calling them. She took his info and said she had some calls to make. I hope she did. Her report plus mine before hers, I think, would be be pretty strong.
 
HERE, you file for an RO in the county in which YOU (the protected) live. So I think you're good.

Now... take the text that Dad sent admitting that his wife beat YOU up to the police chief that said he'd "personally" handle this.

THEN go back to the judge in YOUR county and explain to him that the judge in the custody-related county couldn't restrain Dad from YOU, but did suspend visitation - but that Dad has to be served with all of that stuff, and he's continuing to send you harassing messages, etc. See if he'll issue an RO NOW based on that.

Thank you so much! You have been so helpful during everything. I will be at the police station in dad's town at 8 and hopefully make it back to my court by 9. Daughter has to be at the dentist at 11:30a. Hopefully things will go as smoothly as they did today and I can be in and out quickly.
 

CJane

Senior Member
Thank you so much! You have been so helpful during everything. I will be at the police station in dad's town at 8 and hopefully make it back to my court by 9. Daughter has to be at the dentist at 11:30a. Hopefully things will go as smoothly as they did today and I can be in and out quickly.

It wouldn't hurt to say to the judge "I'm so sorry to be here again, but I'm very concerned that his behavior is going to escalate once his wife is served with the RO and he's served with the suspension of visitation. Even a temporary order of restraint would make me feel safer over the holiday when the courts are closed."

Good luck, and hang in there. The most important thing is to just keep going.
 

sashaanthony13

Junior Member
My heart goes out to you

I'm very sorry to hear a story like this. You're just doing the right thing, the family is going off on you, and the Dad's a terrible example, dear lord. It's not only the Dad we end up dealing with. Grandparents, other spouses jump in, and they have no legal right to do so.

I think it's very serious, if this guy's wife is hitting you, who's to say she won't pull that baloney on your child. I saw something about a "no paramour order", where you can probly request that when the father has visitation, that his wife/girlfriend can't be there? I'm not exactly sure what that involves, but maybe it's worth checking out.

And you have eye witness testimony, that's sweet. Sorry it had to get so bad to show those people are bad news. I don't know why the dang courts won't listen from the get go.

Good luck to you, nebulizer treatments are enough to do on little one's, my son had them too, and I also have a daughter to boot. You're plate is full, just be the best mom you can possibly be, your child will know the difference.
 

mom6399

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Dawn,

My heart goes out to you and your kids...

Do you have a local women's shelter? Even if you don't need shelter, they can often help in getting RO's and providing legal assistance. An advocate in court is always a good thing...the fact you have documented everything so well will help them help you.

As you move through this process, be strong. Do not respond to texts, do not answer calls and continue with your meticulous documentation. When, not if, you get in front of the judge again, remember to remain calm...state the facts, answer questions directly; present your case with strength and a matter of fact tone, not an emotional one. And most important, do not question yourself...you are doing the right things. Be safe...the stronger you get, the less you respond, the more it can/will fuel his desire to control...

What is happening to you and your kid(s) is abuse and it is a crime. Why judges and law enforcement refuse to recognize this and act accordingly is beyond me...but have faith...be persistent and consistent, eventually an honorable judge will come along and abide by the laws.

Sending you strength.
 
Dawn,
My heart goes out to you and your children. You are one strong woman for being able to do this. Hang in there and stay strong.

For the members on here giving advice. I don't post a lot on here because you have steered me in the correct direction, but I must commend all of you for helping out Dawn. I really don't know what we would do without people like you helping people like us. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.
 

>Charlotte<

Lurker
I agree that things are likely to escalate once the paperwork starts rolling in. You need to buy some mace and carry it with you at all times. And as soon as you see any of them, get it in your hand and ready.

It may seem drastic, but you might even want to look into getting a small stun gun. I had a low-range one that I got for $20 on eBay. It won't hurt them, but it will sure knock them on their ass and leave them immobile for two or three minutes. They're illegal in some states, but the dealer's web site I just Googled says they're legal in Oklahoma. Of course, that was just one guy--double check that to be sure. And don't carry it into courthouses, police stations, your daughter's school, or other places where they might be banned.

You'd probably prefer the mace, but get something. And if you do get the mace and have never used it before, take it out in your backyard (on a non-windy day, of course) and spritz it a couple of times to get comfortable with how it feels, and to get an idea of the range.

If you're attacked again, do not hesitate to use it. That woman is nuts.

Also, when you're out at the store or the bank, etc., get in the habit of looking around and checking out your surroundings--see whose there.

If you go to an ATM, drive once around the bank parking lot before you pull up to the machine.

Always use a shopping cart to carry bags to your car, even if you can carry them. That will leave your hands free, so if someone comes at you you can just let go of the cart and grab your mace. Or hit them with the cart.

Call your local police and ask for a "zone check". That's what they call it here, not sure if it's the same for you. That will, essentially, put every shift on notice that they should drive by your house once in a while to check things out. This is normally done for businesses that are having problems with loiterers, or households who are going on vacation and leaving their house empty, but my husband's department also does them for people who are being stalked or harrassed. It's just a quick drive-by, but it's an added layer of security.

If you have a dog, start putting him in your backyard (if it's fenced) at night if it's not too cold.

I'm not sure if you're working or not. If you are, you need to let your boss know what's going on. You don't have to give him the whole story or make him think his business is at risk, just let him know you're getting this restraining order so he'll be up to speed if they show up at your work. Your co-workers, too, if you trust them, so they'll know to be suspicious of anyone that comes in and asks for you.

I don't mean to freak you out (although you're probably about as unnerved as you can be right now). Chances are once they know you're hitting back with the law it will deflate them a little and they won't be stupid enough to do anything else. But this woman has already proven that she's perfectly willing to seriously assault you and put your child at risk, so you need to be prepared for the worst--and hope for the best.

Just sit down, take a little breather, and start thinking of little things you can do to keep yourself as safe as possible.
 

PQN

Member
school

Don't forget to give a copy of the restraining order to your daughter's school/daycare. While I'm sure you don't have any of them on the approved pick up list, you never know what craziness they can pull.
 

Hisbabygirl77

Senior Member
I would just like to say I agree with all of the suggestions for you to go back first thing in the morning and take all of the family court info to the judge in your county to get an RO against dad. Also, make sure that you show the judge that text! It just goes to prove that dad can not be trusted to use good judgement and with the family court judge stating the no visitation until hearing I think there is a very good chance that it will go in your favor for the RO.

Good luck Dawn. You are doing an amazing job and know that you are setting a great example for your children. This I am sure is extremely difficult and you are handling it better than most. Don't second guess yourself. I can't remember who stated they were proud of you but I second that. In the words of a famous person somewhere (yeah not really I know)

YOU GO GIRL! :D
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Yes. However the way his atty worded the order, he is not given any holiday time until kiddo reaches two years old. It says (not word for word) "when the child reaches two years of age, father shall have standard visitation. Which includes 2 summer weeks and alternating holidays"

To be honest, Dad and I have been splitting holidays. We each take a little time with the Kiddo.

Keep the text messages. Make sure you have them for December 4. Don't respond to him at all.
 
Good news! I met with the chief. I now have a "corrected" police report from Saturday night's events. He told me to shred the first one that I got. Ha ha.... not gonna happen. Something is up with that whole dept.

I showed the chief the texts from yesterday and asked him to hand write me a report on them. He did with no problem. About 2 mins after I left the police station I got this text from Dad

"sum1 saw u leavin the pulice u bst nt b strtn ne (s word) wit us. We wil finish it n u no it"

Guess what I did? Turned my happy little butt around, went back to the police station and showed the chief and told him I wanted another report. He told me it would be best to get an RO against Dad for the time being. Told him that's what I plan to do right after I left there.

After I got to my courthouse, I sat in the car for a minute and organized all my new papers and made sure I had everything in order. Got yet another text from Dad.

"stop (f word) ignorin me Im sick of u aleady"

Went in the courthouse and started my affidavit. I was before the judge by 9:05. I really didn't have to say ANYthing at all. He asked if I made any progress with the family court. I said "yes sir, his visitation was suspended pending a DHS investigation, and a hearing at family court December 4th."

He said "great, I see no need for him to contact you any further until then"

Sometimes I think its a blessing to live in such a small town. If you act right, the right people will remember you and "take care of" you.

So all in all. Both children and I are protected via these papers, from Dad, wife, and Grandpa. I know its just a piece of paper. I just hope it will "scare" them into laying off. I've told my daughter, again, the importance of 911 and how they can help us if we need them.

Daughter is doing lots better with everything that has happened. She keeps asking me

"Mama, why didn't you do the karate moves I showed you on that lady?". <3

Do you all think I should give a copy of the ROs to the kids pediatrician? Her office is in Dads town. I would hate for them to drive by and see us there and try to start something. At least they would know to be on alert.

I gave my mom copies, as she is the only one to ever keep the kids aside from myself. Son is there now, while I'm at the dentist with daughter. I don't believe that Dad knows where my mom lives. The kids and I will be staying with her tonight, because they will all be served today. Just added protection, I guess.

I'm also going in to talk to the DHS investigator this afternoon.
 
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