is cashing out a casino voucher really a crime?

[kingcuppie]

cant someone agree this is entrapment. i was happily playing my slot machine when i got tempted into this.

 

[Antigone*]

Oh, so now you are saying they did not leave you with the payout slip but merely asked you to watch the machine with their "card" still active in the machine? Then you decided to cash out their machine and take the payout slip and cash it.

It's foolish on their part but illegal for you to take their money. Curious as to just how long you sat there waiting.

Maybe you never get somebody to defend you is because you are in the wrong. We generally do not pat a thief on the back and provide defenses to them.

that doesn't mean it isn't a crime. I know people that speed all the time but that does not mean when I get caught speeding it isn't illegal. It just means they didn't get caught.

taking any money that does not belong to you is a crime.

and when you told them the person gave you the money the police said....?

you will have your chance to explain that the money was given to you when you go to court.

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No, that is a lousy defense.

Hey Mister ~ I've been missing you

 

[justalayman]

cant someone agree this is entrapment. i was happily playing my slot machine when i got tempted into this.

first, entrapment is when the police induce you to act illegally when you would not normally act that way. Next, you had the option of doing several things instead of trying to steal the money.

1. walk away. if anything, there was a gratuitous bailment and if you could claim you stayed a reasonable time for the activity the other party was claiming to need to do, you would have been relieved of any liability for another party stealing the money

2. cashed out the machine and handed the slip to the pay out window person and telling them your situation.

3. stayed at the machine until an employee walked by and told them the situation and then left

4. simply stayed at the machine until the person came back

Nowhere in that list is: take the slip, attempt to cash it and then claim you intended on returning it to that unknown person if you saw them sometime in the future.

the reason that last action was not listed in the list including the first 4 is because just like on Sesame Street. Some things are like the others, one of them doesn't belong and the reason it doesn't belong is the first 4 are legal options and yours isn't.

 

[Antigone*]

have some class Zigner, calling me names.

Also, i did NOT go out to the casino that night with the intent of commiting a crime. I was put in this situation, someone asks me for a faovr, then dissapears for a LONG Time. this is ENTRAPMENT. what jury is going to not see this?? I was asked a favor, then tempted. Ill fight this on ABANDONED PROPERTY and ENTRAPMENT,no intent WHATSOEVERRR to do a crime that night.

Listen cupcake,

You hate this site so much, please take your two cents and don't let the door hit you on the back side.

eta... isn't this just about the time you go running and crying to the moderator about our mistreating you

 

[justalayman]

Hey Mister ~ I've been missing you

thnks. just got back. I have been over to the other place though, raising heck and all, getting called names and such. I guess I just don't come across as a warm and fuzzy guy.

I disagree and to support my opinion, just ask my wife. She will tell you I am a very fuzzy guy and that keeps her warm.

 

[swalsh411]

cant someone agree this is entrapment. i was happily playing my slot machine when i got tempted into this.

Was it left there by an agent of law enforcement? If not, it cannot possibly be entrapment.

 

[Proserpina]

cant someone agree this is entrapment. i was happily playing my slot machine when i got tempted into this.

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Come on, I can do this all night.

Oh - the English version would be the beautifully succinct "no".

 

[Antigone*]

Was it left there by an agent of law enforcement? If not, it cannot possibly be entrapment.

pssst..swalsh, it would behoove you to look into cupcake's posting history

 

[Proserpina]

Listen cupcake,

You hate this site so much, please take your two cents and don't let the door hit you on the back side.

eta... isn't this just about the time you go running and crying to the moderator about our mistreating you

In five....four.....three....two.....

 

[kingcuppie]

oh nevermind

I just looked up a grading scale and my charges in P are M2 and since i have no record (always got anything i had reduced to disorderly conduct fines, no misdeamor convictions on my record or anything) I would get " RS" which is restorative service meaning pay the victim back plus court costs so being on welfare theyll have to let me pay $20 a month. (but hopefully i can get them to reduce this to a disorderly conduct FINE with restituion since i had NO INTENTIOn of comiting a crime that night.) by the way, i wish i had a job, i have a BA in psych and an MBA but zero work history since ive suffered from depression for like ever, any ides on where to start other than mcdonalds? lol
seriously though

 

[Zigner]

I just looked up a grading scale and my charges in P are M2 and since i have no record (always got anything i had reduced to disorderly conduct fines, no misdeamor convictions on my record or anything) I would get " RS" which is restorative service meaning pay the victim back plus court costs so being on welfare theyll have to let me pay $20 a month. (but hopefully i can get them to reduce this to a disorderly conduct FINE with restituion since i had NO INTENTIOn of comiting a crime that night.) by the way, i wish i had a job, i have a BA in psych and an MBA but zero work history since ive suffered from depression for like ever, any ides on where to start other than mcdonalds? lol
seriously though

I'd suggest looking somewhere that doesn't give you any temptation to steal, since you seem to have a propensity for that.

 

[Proserpina]

I'd suggest looking somewhere that doesn't give you any temptation to steal, since you seem to have a propensity for that.

I believe two or three billy goats may be in need of another Bridge Resident.

 

[Antigone*]

I just looked up a grading scale and my charges in P are M2 and since i have no record (always got anything i had reduced to disorderly conduct fines, no misdeamor convictions on my record or anything) I would get " RS" which is restorative service meaning pay the victim back plus court costs so being on welfare theyll have to let me pay $20 a month. (but hopefully i can get them to reduce this to a disorderly conduct FINE with restituion since i had NO INTENTIOn of comiting a crime that night.) by the way, i wish i had a job, i have a BA in psych and an MBA but zero work history since ive suffered from depression for like ever, any ides on where to start other than mcdonalds? lol
seriously though

You're definitely not a criminal...definitely not

https://forum.freeadvice.com/arrest...ord-probation-worst-case-scenario-412385.html

What happened to the business you were starting?

https://forum.freeadvice.com/starting-operating-business-3/merchant-account-447406.html

Is this the same girlfriend you gave an STD to???

https://forum.freeadvice.com/other-crimes-federal-state-4/access-device-fraud-question-463969.html

 

[Zigner]

I believe two or three billy goats may be in need of another Bridge Resident.

I sense this is headed down a road none of us want to travel (goats and all...)

 

[HappyWanderer]

Your "fair" two-sided response is that you did not "intend" to permanently deprive the owner of her money. This seems a factual issue and not a legal one. Get an attorney, as, as a person who might be on a jury, I'd find you guilty.

Come up with something better and hope this thread is never entered into evidence.