Family trip

[stepmom4ever]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Ga

As you already know, my husband and I are seperated and getting deviorced. Now before I say this, I know what most of you senior members are going to say, especially OHIOGAL.....but, my in-laws are in town and are staying with my husband. They are going to Florida on Sunday and are taken my husband other child with them to Disney World, they ask if my daughter can go...I personally dont want her to go, she only 16 months and never been away from my husband and I.... she never been gone from us! My husband says if I refuse, he will document and use against me in court... should I be worried or just let her go...I dont want to give visitation until divorce is finalized.

 

[Hisbabygirl77]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Ga

As you already know, my husband and I are seperated and getting deviorced. Now before I say this, I know what most of you senior members are going to say, especially OHIOGAL.....but, my in-laws are in town and are staying with my husband. They are going to Florida on Sunday and are taken my husband other child with them to Disney World, they ask if my daughter can go...I personally dont want her to go, she only 16 months and never been away from my husband and I.... she never been gone from us! My husband says if I refuse, he will document and use against me in court... should I be worried or just let her go...I dont want to give visitation until divorce is finalized.

Yes it can look bad if you do not let dad see HIS child until divorce is finalized. He is the FATHER. He has the SAME rights to have his child at this point as you do. You do NOT have sole custody because you are MARRIED. You do not get to decide to not let him see HIS child. You are still a nitwit.

 

[Antigone*]

Yes it can look bad if you do not let dad see HIS child until divorce is finalized. He is the FATHER. He has the SAME rights to have his child at this point as you do. You do NOT have sole custody because you are MARRIED. You do not get to decide to not let him see HIS child. You are still a nitwit.

Somebody said stepmom4ever three times and guess what... sheeeees baacccckkk

 

[Hisbabygirl77]

Somebody said stepmom4ever three times and guess what... sheeeees baacccckkk

Alright who did it! I think I saw Dog say it earlier! Dog did you do it? Darn it people!

 

[lily2467]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Ga

As she only 16 months and never been away from my husband and I.... she never been gone from us!

sorry, but i got the impression that the grandparents want to take the children and dad won't be going. so then the question would be does she have to let the kids go with only the grandparents?

 

[Zigner]

sorry, but i got the impression that the grandparents want to take the children and dad won't be going. so then the question would be does she have to let the kids go with only the grandparents?

Dad wants to send kiddo with his parents. The answer doesn't change.

 

[lily2467]

oh, ok just wondering.

 

[LdiJ]

What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? Ga

As you already know, my husband and I are seperated and getting deviorced. Now before I say this, I know what most of you senior members are going to say, especially OHIOGAL.....but, my in-laws are in town and are staying with my husband. They are going to Florida on Sunday and are taken my husband other child with them to Disney World, they ask if my daughter can go...I personally dont want her to go, she only 16 months and never been away from my husband and I.... she never been gone from us! My husband says if I refuse, he will document and use against me in court... should I be worried or just let her go...I dont want to give visitation until divorce is finalized.

I am giving you a legally honest and correct answer.

No, it will NOT look bad on you at all because you chose to not allow a 16 month old, who is too young to even enjoy the experience, to go out of state to Disneyworld with grandparents.

Your husband can document all he likes. No judge is going to ding you for not allowing grandparents to take a child that young out of state during the middle of divorce proceedings, even if the other parent wants you to do so.

I am also disappointed that you got legally incorrect answers previously.

 

[Ohiogal]

I am giving you a legally honest and correct answer.

No, it will NOT look bad on you at all because you chose to not allow a 16 month old, who is too young to even enjoy the experience, to go out of state to Disneyworld with grandparents.

I am waiting for the honest and correct answer other than your opinion which is based on yoru experience as a tax professional. As an attorney I am going to state, IT CAN look bad on her. Dad has equal rights to make decisions regarding his child -- and S4E is stating she doesn't want to give ANY visitation until the divorce.
And Disney has a LOT of things that 16 month olds can enjoy. How do you know that the 16 month is too young to enjoy the experience? Seriously? You are speculating. Have you ever taken a 16 month old to Disney?

Your husband can document all he likes. No judge is going to ding you for not allowing grandparents to take a child that young out of state during the middle of divorce proceedings, even if the other parent wants you to do so.

You are giving a guarantee? Seriously? You know that? Because I have seen judges that will ding parents for this type of behavior. How do you KNOW what S4E's judge will do? It is quite possible that she can get dinged for being controlling over this because she IS not only custodian of this child> The child has TWO PARENTS who have EQUAL rights to make decisions. A judge can very well ding her. And I have seen it happen.

I am also disappointed that you got legally incorrect answers previously.

i am disappointed, though not surprised, that you refuse to back up any of your answers with statute or case law. Legally stepmom doesn't get to dictate. Legally her husband has equal rights to her. Legally this attitude:

...I dont want to give visitation until divorce is finalized

is going to get her trounced. Legally she and dad have EQUAL rights. S4E doesn't get to control the show and run it because she wants to. How would she like it if dad took the child and didn't allow S4E to see the child until the divorce is finalized? How would she like it?

 

[LdiJ]

I am waiting for the honest and correct answer other than your opinion which is based on yoru experience as a tax professional. As an attorney I am going to state, IT CAN look bad on her. Dad has equal rights to make decisions regarding his child -- and S4E is stating she doesn't want to give ANY visitation until the divorce.
And Disney has a LOT of things that 16 month olds can enjoy. How do you know that the 16 month is too young to enjoy the experience? Seriously? You are speculating. Have you ever taken a 16 month old to Disney?




You are giving a guarantee? Seriously? You know that? Because I have seen judges that will ding parents for this type of behavior. How do you KNOW what S4E's judge will do? It is quite possible that she can get dinged for being controlling over this because she IS not only custodian of this child> The child has TWO PARENTS who have EQUAL rights to make decisions. A judge can very well ding her. And I have seen it happen.


i am disappointed, though not surprised, that you refuse to back up any of your answers with statute or case law. Legally stepmom doesn't get to dictate. Legally her husband has equal rights to her. Legally this attitude:


is going to get her trounced. Legally she and dad have EQUAL rights. S4E doesn't get to control the show and run it because she wants to. How would she like it if dad took the child and didn't allow S4E to see the child until the divorce is finalized? How would she like it?

I think that she meant that she didn't want to give the grandparents, separate, out of state visitation until the divorce is finalized. Her postings seem to indicate that dad has been seeing the child.

I was waiting for this. People don't like this poster therefore they are of course going to give her answers like this one.

And since you are still mad at me for a previous thread, you of course are going to be as derogatory as possible.

The grandparents want to take the child out of state in the middle of a divorce, and the child is only 16 months old. My answer was correct, whether you choose to say otherwise because you are in a snit, or not.

 

[Ohiogal]

I think that she meant that she didn't want to give the grandparents, separate, out of state visitation until the divorce is finalized. Her postings seem to indicate that dad has been seeing the child.

You are speculating. That is NOT what S4E stated. She stated she did not want to give ANY visitation. I even quoted the statement.

I was waiting for this. People don't like this poster therefore they are of course going to give her answers like this one.

Of course you were waiting for this. Add it to your file. My answer was completely honest and LEGALLY accurate. A judge COULD ding her for this behavior. A judge COULD hold it against her that she is not recognizing that dad has an equal right to make decisions. That is the truth.

And since you are still mad at me for a previous thread, you of course are going to be as derogatory as possible.

Derogatory? Nope. At least I am stating the truth. You don't back things up with caselaw or statute. You never have. Nor do you admit when you are wrong -- at least I have never seen it. Those are facts.

The grandparents want to take the child out of state in the middle of a divorce, and the child is only 16 months old. My answer was correct, whether you choose to say otherwise because you are in a snit, or not.

Your answer is NOT correct. Snit? Dearie, try backing up your answer with something other than arrogance and attitude sometime. I have a law degree and I still back it up with statute and caselaw. You are a tax professional and never seem to back anything up except with your opinion, why is that again?

I stand behind my answer. A judge COULD ding her for this behavior. That is a FACT.

 

[TinkerBelleLuvr]

The weather is expected to be very cold and rainy for a while. Personally, **I** wouldn't want to be there.

The thing is that they have equal rights to the child. Neither parent's right can be trampled here. So, by allowing out-of-state visitation would trample mom's rights. From the way it was made to sound, it was more important for dad to have rights than mom.

How often have the in-laws had visits with the child?

 

[Ohiogal]

The weather is expected to be very cold and rainy for a while. Personally, **I** wouldn't want to be there.

The thing is that they have equal rights to the child. Neither parent's right can be trampled here. So, by allowing out-of-state visitation would trample mom's rights. From the way it was made to sound, it was more important for dad to have rights than mom.

How often have the in-laws had visits with the child?

Actually it would not trample mom's rights for dad to allow his parents time with the child. Any more than mom allowing HER parents time with the child would trample dad's rihgts. What is trampling rights is one parent determining that the other parent has no right to make any decisions regarding the child when they each at this point have EQUAL legal rights. What tramples one parents rights is when the other parent -- when they both have EQUAL legal rights -- determines that visitation will not happen until the divorce takes place. A judge COULD ding mom. It is possible. Probable? I don't know because I don't know the judge and what the judge is going to hear. But it is definitely possible.

As for the weather -- we have a foot of snow on the ground and more coming through. I will trade you. Your cold is NOT Ohio cold. Of course for Floridians 50 is cold and comparable to 20 for Ohio.

 

[Artemis_ofthe_Hunt]

The weather is expected to be very cold and rainy for a while. Personally, **I** wouldn't want to be there.

As for the weather -- we have a foot of snow on the ground and more coming through. I will trade you. Your cold is NOT Ohio cold. Of course for Floridians 50 is cold and comparable to 20 for Ohio.

Sorry, have to scoff here.... 20*? 50*? that would be a current heat wave! Brings to mind Grumpy Old Men.... its a balmy 9* without windchill... bringing the temp down to -12* and looking like its going to stay that way.
Rainy and cold at DisneyWorld with a 16 month old? You're kidding right? What possible fun would that be? On top of which, naps interferring with fun time, right? So Grandparents bring kiddo to DisneyWorld.... get up in the morning, eat breakfast... get kiddo and themselves dressed for the day, time for lunch... then nap... and you get what? 2 hours of 'fun' time in? Where would that be a trip worth taking? I wouldn't want to tackle DisneyWorld even with a 3 year old....

 

[ecmst12]

If stepmom is ONLY objecting to this one trip, and isn't otherwise interfering with dad or his parents spending time with the child, I think that she is *probably* safe, and her objections to this particular trip for this particular child sound reasonable *to me*. I know this poster's history, but *in this case* I don't think she's being crazy or stupid or trying to alienate the child from his dad or grandparents.