GI Bill and child support

[maryjo]

And if thats what he wants to do...thats his choice.

Its also the State of Florida's choice to send them to jail if they choose not to pay their child support.

 

[jimbean437]

true...but that has nothing to do with the question u asked...i just tried my best to answer the question...not give you an answer you would like =)

 

[maryjo]

true...but that has nothing to do with the question u asked...i just tried my best to answer the question...not give you an answer you would like =)

Look dude, I dont know who you are or what your qualifications are to even be answering my question. I have been around here a long time and I know who knows their stuff and who doesnt. You didnt even understand my question so I am going to guess you dont know the correct answer.

You seem to think I am out for something I am not. Those who know me around here know I am the LAST person to try and take anything...much less anything that doesnt belong to me. I have been beyond accomodating to my ex for many years now and for many different reasons. Enough is enough. If he doesnt want to pay child support for his ONLY child thats fine. But I am no longer going to sit by and let him get away with it. He can either pay it...or eventually go to jail.

I was not asking if I could get his child support increased because he is now living off a GI Bill. We just had a child support modification last summer. I dont think anything can be changed now for another 3 years.

In case you arent aware...I am the kind of person who let him get behind for 3 years in his child support before doing anything about it. I am the one who didnt fight a decrease in child support, agreed to forgive HALF of the more than 3000 dollars he was behind in child support and then go on a payment plan of paying 25 dollars a month towards what was left. And I am the one who agreed to meet him half way to where HE CHOSE to move to. (PS: He decided to get the child support lowered when he found out I was planning on getting my own place instead of continuing to live with my parents. When he found out I got a car, he FLIPPED! Calling everyone he knew threatening to take our son away from me and talking about how I take all his money.)

I am the one who works two jobs, one of them MORE than full time, to support our child. I am the one who carries the insurance because I KNEW he wouldnt be able to keep a job. I am the one who spent my last few dollars at Christmas to buy presents for my ex to give our son because supposedly he didnt have any money and I didnt want him to look bad in front of his son. Then, not only was I called and chewed out the day after because our son's hair was too long and he didnt sleep that night, but our son came home telling me all about all the presents he got, none of them what I had bought. I am the one who let him claim our son on his taxes when he called me BEGGING me to let him do it (we have a stipulation in our divorce that he cant claim him if he is behind in his child support...which he was/is.) and told me he would pay ALL his back child support if I did. So...I did. And I never saw a penny of it. Not only that, but that year stimulus checks or whatever was sent out and since he claimed him on his taxes that year, he got that check too!

HE is the one who cant keep a job to save his life. Last count it was about 18 different jobs in 12 years and that included a 4 year stint in the Marines. He is the one who cut off all communication with his family when they would no longer pay his bills and then refused to let them see our son. He is the one who said "Thats just the price I have to pay for my own happiness" when I told him he was going to break his son's heart when he literally threw us out (of his grandparent's house) when our son was 6 years old. He is the one who has constantly lied about me to everyone he knows, including our son, and blames me for the divorce. He is the one who spent every dime either one of us ever made, has always lived in poverty racking up bills he expects someone else to pay, and always expecting someone else to bail him out of his problems. He is the one who abused me in every way possible, spent every penny and cheated on me repeatedly and yet I STILL stood by him and tried to make it work.

And now...I am single and free and loving it. I finally have my own place, have two great jobs, have a wonderful family I can depend on for anything, great friends, I finally feel great about myself, I have my own car that ISNT 100 years old and falling apart. And he is jealous as hell about it and bitter as he can be. So he is doing everything he can to get back at me for it. He tries to make our place sound like the pits of hell when he lives in his girlfriend's trailer on her parent's property, drives her car, and before he quit his job, was working part time cutting meat in some tiny grocery store.(And our house, although it is old, is big, cute, clean and doesnt belong to anyone but the landlord.) Not to mention he has bills he will never be able to pay. AND...he shaves our son's beautiful red, curly hair almost every time he goes to see him, even though our son doesnt want his hair shaved, because he knows it breaks my heart. And him and his girlfriend call our son gay, sissy, fag...because of his HAIR! He is the one who cancelled almost every one of his weekends with his son last year, hasnt taken him his half of the summer since the first year we were divorced, hasnt taken the entire week at Christmas since that first year and has never taken his spring break, Easter, or one evening a week...EVER.

I could go on all day with this. But here is the point. Dont, for a second, think that I am sitting on my ass trying to force my ex husband to pay to support me and our son. I have NEVER had to depend on child support because I made sure I lived only on my own paycheck. And even though its EXTREMELY TIGHT, I am doing that now. Having child support would allow me to breathe a little easier and be able to afford things like new clothes and shoes for our son, instead of waiting until someone passes some hand me downs to us.

 

[Just Blue]

Look dude, I dont know who you are or what your qualifications are to even be answering my question. I have been around here a long time and I know who knows their stuff and who doesnt. You didnt even understand my question so I am going to guess you dont know the correct answer.

You seem to think I am out for something I am not. Those who know me around here know I am the LAST person to try and take anything...much less anything that doesnt belong to me. I have been beyond accomodating to my ex for many years now and for many different reasons. Enough is enough. If he doesnt want to pay child support for his ONLY child thats fine. But I am no longer going to sit by and let him get away with it. He can either pay it...or eventually go to jail.

I was not asking if I could get his child support increased because he is now living off a GI Bill. We just had a child support modification last summer. I dont think anything can be changed now for another 3 years.

In case you arent aware...I am the kind of person who let him get behind for 3 years in his child support before doing anything about it. I am the one who didnt fight a decrease in child support, agreed to forgive HALF of the more than 3000 dollars he was behind in child support and then go on a payment plan of paying 25 dollars a month towards what was left. And I am the one who agreed to meet him half way to where HE CHOSE to move to. (PS: He decided to get the child support lowered when he found out I was planning on getting my own place instead of continuing to live with my parents. When he found out I got a car, he FLIPPED! Calling everyone he knew threatening to take our son away from me and talking about how I take all his money.)

I am the one who works two jobs, one of them MORE than full time, to support our child. I am the one who carries the insurance because I KNEW he wouldnt be able to keep a job. I am the one who spent my last few dollars at Christmas to buy presents for my ex to give our son because supposedly he didnt have any money and I didnt want him to look bad in front of his son. Then, not only was I called and chewed out the day after because our son's hair was too long and he didnt sleep that night, but our son came home telling me all about all the presents he got, none of them what I had bought. I am the one who let him claim our son on his taxes when he called me BEGGING me to let him do it (we have a stipulation in our divorce that he cant claim him if he is behind in his child support...which he was/is.) and told me he would pay ALL his back child support if I did. So...I did. And I never saw a penny of it. Not only that, but that year stimulus checks or whatever was sent out and since he claimed him on his taxes that year, he got that check too!

HE is the one who cant keep a job to save his life. Last count it was about 18 different jobs in 12 years and that included a 4 year stint in the Marines. He is the one who cut off all communication with his family when they would no longer pay his bills and then refused to let them see our son. He is the one who said "Thats just the price I have to pay for my own happiness" when I told him he was going to break his son's heart when he literally threw us out (of his grandparent's house) when our son was 6 years old. He is the one who has constantly lied about me to everyone he knows, including our son, and blames me for the divorce. He is the one who spent every dime either one of us ever made, has always lived in poverty racking up bills he expects someone else to pay, and always expecting someone else to bail him out of his problems. He is the one who abused me in every way possible, spent every penny and cheated on me repeatedly and yet I STILL stood by him and tried to make it work.

And now...I am single and free and loving it. I finally have my own place, have two great jobs, have a wonderful family I can depend on for anything, great friends, I finally feel great about myself, I have my own car that ISNT 100 years old and falling apart. And he is jealous as hell about it and bitter as he can be. So he is doing everything he can to get back at me for it. He tries to make our place sound like the pits of hell when he lives in his girlfriend's trailer on her parent's property, drives her car, and before he quit his job, was working part time cutting meat in some tiny grocery store.(And our house, although it is old, is big, cute, clean and doesnt belong to anyone but the landlord.) Not to mention he has bills he will never be able to pay. AND...he shaves our son's beautiful red, curly hair almost every time he goes to see him, even though our son doesnt want his hair shaved, because he knows it breaks my heart. And him and his girlfriend call our son gay, sissy, fag...because of his HAIR! He is the one who cancelled almost every one of his weekends with his son last year, hasnt taken him his half of the summer since the first year we were divorced, hasnt taken the entire week at Christmas since that first year and has never taken his spring break, Easter, or one evening a week...EVER.

I could go on all day with this. But here is the point. Dont, for a second, think that I am sitting on my ass trying to force my ex husband to pay to support me and our son. I have NEVER had to depend on child support because I made sure I lived only on my own paycheck. And even though its EXTREMELY TIGHT, I am doing that now. Having child support would allow me to breathe a little easier and be able to afford things like new clothes and shoes for our son, instead of waiting until someone passes some hand me downs to us.

Any member that chooses the user name of booze should not be taken seriously.

 

[maryjo]

Any member that chooses the user name of booze should not be taken seriously.

Tis true! LOL!

 

[jimbean437]

umm, yea, criticize all you want, but i tried multiple ways to explain how the GI bill works and you don't seem to grasp that. second...jim beam is the alcohol. not jim bean...two different letters, two different words.

 

[maryjo]

umm, yea, criticize all you want, but i tried multiple ways to explain how the GI bill works and you don't seem to grasp that. second...jim beam is the alcohol. not jim bean...two different letters, two different words.

Not once did I ask how the GI Bill works. I asked if he could use it to pay child support. I asked because I dont believe a word this man says and I wanted to find out if he was just stringing me along.

What you TRIED to do was paint me as a greedy CP who is trying to figure out a way to get extra child support. Which is nowhere NEAR the case.

 

[TinkerBelleLuvr]

My son is currently on the GI bill. He uses it for his school expense and then his living expenses. The living expenses INCLUDES the child support check that he sends out. So, yes, it can be used for said purpose. Now, it does take a little bit of time to get the cycle going. Once it does, then, if he is sincere, it should stay on cycle.

Maryjo, question here: has the man EVER sent the child support checks out voluntarily? Or have they always had to be garnished in order for it to be paid?

 

[Artemis_ofthe_Hunt]

And now...I am single and free and loving it. I finally have my own place, have two great jobs, have a wonderful family I can depend on for anything, great friends, I finally feel great about myself, I have my own car that ISNT 100 years old and falling apart. .

You GO GIRL!

 

[Gracie3787]

I'd like to clarify something regarding the possible contempt, especially for "jim bean"s knowledge.

Any money left over after paying for school expenses, can and likely will be considered as an asset/income in which CS could be paid from. In other words, the court can make a finding of willful contempt based on the income from the GI bill that is available after the school expenses are paid for.

 

[maryjo]

My son is currently on the GI bill. He uses it for his school expense and then his living expenses. The living expenses INCLUDES the child support check that he sends out. So, yes, it can be used for said purpose. Now, it does take a little bit of time to get the cycle going. Once it does, then, if he is sincere, it should stay on cycle.

Maryjo, question here: has the man EVER sent the child support checks out voluntarily? Or have they always had to be garnished in order for it to be paid?

They started taking it straight from his paycheck right from the start. He never had a choice. I dont know if that is something that is required in Florida or if I just happend to have someone very smart during mediation. But right from the beginning it was coming from his paycheck before he ever saw it.



I know during the first year, when he first got behind, he was scared to death of going to jail. He would call me weekly and keep me up to date on what was going on with child support. Supposedly he had done the paperwork but his employeer lost it. Anyway, he did NOT want to go to jail. Now...I think he either doesnt care, or he thinks I wont report him. He is so delusional though. He believes his own lies. And he has himself convinced that the order he had last summer to pay the back child support no longer counts and he WAS considered up to date, simply for having the order.

 

[maryjo]

You GO GIRL!

THANKS!!! It certainly takes a lot of hard work but I am loving every minute of my life these days!!!

 

[jimbean437]

Not once did I ask how the GI Bill works. I asked if he could use it to pay child support. I asked because I dont believe a word this man says and I wanted to find out if he was just stringing me along.

What you TRIED to do was paint me as a greedy CP who is trying to figure out a way to get extra child support. Which is nowhere NEAR the case.

i didn't try to paint you that way at all...and i told you yes, that if there's any left over after paying for school that it could be used to pay child support. my so called 'knowledge' of this is based on the fact that i, too, have used the GI Bill, and, know how it is disbursed. i simply painted you as an idiot that wasn't understanding the answers i gave you.

 

[Artemis_ofthe_Hunt]

i didn't try to paint you that way at all...and i told you yes, that if there's any left over after paying for school that it could be used to pay child support. my so called 'knowledge' of this is based on the fact that i, too, have used the GI Bill, and, know how it is disbursed. i simply painted you as an idiot that wasn't understanding the answers i gave you.

You got cajones, dude. Get off your high horse.

 

[maryjo]

i didn't try to paint you that way at all...and i told you yes, that if there's any left over after paying for school that it could be used to pay child support. my so called 'knowledge' of this is based on the fact that i, too, have used the GI Bill, and, know how it is disbursed. i simply painted you as an idiot that wasn't understanding the answers i gave you.

Riiiight. Except you are the idiot who didnt understand the question in the first place.