Murder and mayhem in DETROIT

[JusticeHasNoClr]

Why didn't the driver and passengers comply with the lawful orders of the officers?

They have been stopped by this officer several times before, often with threats "You'll be seeing me again" and "Next time I'll make sure I get you".
So what would you do? Get out and wait for him to make it happen?
They stayed in the car, where it was safe. The officer just hung themselves on the video evidence!

 

[CreativeBlock]

Silverplum, Zigner, I realized that.

At one time, he thought it was a GOOD idea, and then something occurred (or occurred TO him) that spoke to it being a BAD idea. I was curious as to the thought process behind that.

I hate to be insensitive, but I do think a delusion of persecution does exist here.

 

[Silverplum]

They have been stopped by this officer several times before, often with threats "You'll be seeing me again" and "Next time I'll make sure I get you".
So what would you do? Get out and wait for him to make it happen?
They stayed in the car, where it was safe. The officer just hung themselves on the video evidence!

I guess the grownups don't see it your way.

 

[JusticeHasNoClr]

Yes, it was smart to remove it. But, if anybody was able to get copies of it and any accompanying text, you can STILL be sued for defamation.

So you're saying that someone witnessing a police stop can be sued for the video? Perhaps you should read this story and get back to me...
http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2011/03/04/news/new_haven/doc4d706b7ed6c7a006427413.txt

http://nhregister.com/articles/2011/03/08/opinion/doc4d7556b5a992c437293601.txt

 

[Silverplum]

Silverplum, Zigner, I realized that.

At one time, he thought it was a GOOD idea, and then something occurred (or occurred TO him) that spoke to it being a BAD idea. I was curious as to the thought process behind that.

I hate to be insensitive, but I do think a delusion of persecution does exist here.

Gotcha.

 

[CreativeBlock]

My guess was he may have realized just how expensive it can be to defend (and lose) a defamation case

With all due respect (honestly so), I don't see this particular scenario as occurring to him.

I see more ... reactive behavior. Stimulus-response more than planning (either for the moment or the future ~ and removing it out of fear of a defamation suit would imply future planning).

So, I was merely curious as to the thought process behind both actions of uploading and removing. And if he answers it the way I think he might, I think we'll all have more reason to come to certain conclusions.

 

[Silverplum]

So you're saying that someone witnessing a police stop can be sued for the video? Perhaps you should read this story and get back to me...
Probe clears New Haven cops in Yale party raid; but officers must undergo training (video, documents)- The New Haven Register - Serving New Haven, Connecticut

Editorial: Report on New Haven nightclub raid falls short on police misconduct- The New Haven Register - Serving New Haven, Connecticut

Perhaps you should learn, like a good citizen who went all the way through hi-skool, that each state has its own laws. Anything "legal" that's in those articles from CT are not ever going to apply to MI. Zigner and I wouldn't waste our time reading non-applicable info.

 

[CreativeBlock]

OP, when you reviewed the tape, did you see a single actor who was ... hesitant? Not completely with the program (so to speak)? One who seemed vastly uncomfortable with the actions of the others?

Or did they all seem equally hell-bent on harassment and abuse?

 

[JusticeHasNoClr]

Perhaps you should learn, like a good citizen who went all the way through hi-skool....

Your stupidity in using the word 'hi-skool' exposes you as a troll. I highly doubt you are an attorney. Therefore, anything you have to say on this board is just to amuse yourself. You have no sound legal advice to offer if you are not an attorney.

 

[Mass_Shyster]

You have no sound legal advice to offer if you are not an attorney.

In that case, please ignore my previous comments, as I am not an attorney.

 

[JusticeHasNoClr]

Why is anyone posting on this site, if NOT to obtain the advice of an attorney or former attorney? Is this a JOKE site or something? It's here for legal advice, is it not?

Perhaps I should have typed http://www.4chan.org to reach the same individuals to comment on a serious legal matter that has effected my family?

 

[Silverplum]

Your stupidity in using the word 'hi-skool' exposes you as a troll. I highly doubt you are an attorney. Therefore, anything you have to say on this board is just to amuse yourself. You have no sound legal advice to offer if you are not an attorney.

No, my considered usage of that phrase (which I invented, btw) is my indication of your obvious level of education. Your stupidity in not knowing Basic Civics is the item at issue, along with your arrogance in telling senior advisors here to read articles you randomly googled.

So...did you graduate from an accredited high school? <<-- properly spelled, because I can.

Of course I'm not an attorney, and never claimed to be. 99% of us here aren't. We're just smart enough to read and learn, and we want to help people who haven't figured it out yet.

Since this matter had nothing to do with you, as has been explained a dozen times already, I'm not concerned with you.

 

[CreativeBlock]

Your stupidity in using the word 'hi-skool' exposes you as a troll.

Actually, she was poking fun at you. She's allowed. Read the ToS.

I highly doubt you are an attorney. Therefore, anything you have to say on this board is just to amuse yourself. You have no sound legal advice to offer if you are not an attorney.

I don't believe that anyone in this thread purported themselves to be an attorney.

And before you go one step further and devolve into an anger-filled rant, bear in mind that you are here asking for help ~ and you HAVE been given legal advice (ahem ... subpoena?)

If your story is true, I've even given you a hint as to how to deal with the situation.

But bottom line is that if you don't like the advice you're given, or do not have a thick enough skin to deal with the responses you get in a public forum, my advice is to get your refund at the door.

And for future reference, if you WANT absolute legal advice AND someone to hold your hand, PAY for a lawyer's time.

 

[cbg]

Why is anyone posting on this site, if NOT to obtain the advice of an attorney or former attorney? Is this a JOKE site or something? It's here for legal advice, is it not?

Perhaps I should have typed 4chan to reach the same individuals to comment on a serious legal matter that has effected my family?

Actually, no. It is not to obtain the advice of an attorney or former attorney, and it is not for legal advice. Not these forums, at any rate. It is for general discussions of law and for people to exchange information on their own situations. If you want the advice of an attorney, you're going to have to pay for it.

 

[JusticeHasNoClr]

Actually, no.

Actually, yes. Refer to this GIF for evidence.
http://images.freeadvice.com/images_forum/fa-logo.gif

It is not to obtain the advice of an attorney or former attorney, and it is not for legal advice.

The site is called FreeAdvice and this is a law forum for discussion of civil rights. Are you BLIND?

Not these forums, at any rate.

Then direct me to the 'correct' forum or forums. That is why I came here. For free advice, from an attorney or someone extremely familiar with law that was as good as an attorney.

It is for general discussions of law and for people to exchange information on their own situations. If you want the advice of an attorney, you're going to have to pay for it.

Oh hell NO i am not! This is a FREE legal advice site and damn it I'm going to get free advice even if you wish not to give it out.