health supplement caused coma

[TheGeekess]

what leads you to the realistic conclusion of "idiopathic?" Unprecedented seizures and comas are surely rare on a grand scale. My experiences with this non-prescription drug would have me to conclude its potential for suicide/homicide if so inclined to take/give it/offer it. Is that what it would take to prove my point that this is a very dangerous product? In reasonably small doses (a couple of teaspoons), I'm sure it could kill. My kidneys shut down BTW, idiopathic? It's not medically reasonable to conclude this. Try a couple of teaspoons yourself, it comes in powder form.

If it were an OTC pharmaceutical product, the FDA would regulate it. The FDA does not regulate dietary supplements. What you took was a 'dietary supplement' not a pharmaceutical.

 

[justalayman]

what leads you to the realistic conclusion of "idiopathic?" Unprecedented seizures and comas are surely rare on a grand scale. My experiences with this non-prescription drug would have me to conclude its potential for suicide/homicide if so inclined to take/give it/offer it. Is that what it would take to prove my point that this is a very dangerous product? In reasonably small doses (a couple of teaspoons), I'm sure it could kill. My kidneys shut down BTW, idiopathic? It's not medically reasonable to conclude this. Try a couple of teaspoons yourself, it comes in powder form.

unless you can show a cause and effect and not merely a coincidental effect, this is properly defined as idiopathic. If there are enough reports of coincidental incidences, then it may eventually be accepted as a valid claim of cause and effect.

Definition of IDIOPATHIC




1
: arising spontaneously or from an obscure or unknown cause : primary <idiopathic epilepsy>
2
: peculiar to the individual

Even if the product was the actual cause, that alone is not an adequate basis for a suit. You have to prove that not only was it the actual cause (rather than something like just your personal reaction to the product) and they knew or should have known or suspect their product could cause such an issue and failed to remedy the situation or warn the users of the possible side effects.

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

Non researched where? The US maybe. Supposedly, it was a standard item for inventory on Russian space ships in the 60's.

 

[Ladyback1]

how many milligrams/grams did you take? ("a couple tsps" doesn't tell anyone diddly!)

 

[Mass_Shyster]

I've never sought legal council prior to this and have yet only reached attorneys who do auto accidents, divorces, and bankruptcies. One attorney told me it would be impossibly expensive to fund the case. Help!

You need to find a products liability attorney. Your run of the mill family, personal injury or bankruptcy doesn't have the reserves to fund a products liability case.

The first thing you need is a doctor to determine that the cause of your seizure was the supplements. You don't a lawsuit based on an unlikely series of events. You need to PROVE causation.

Call one of the big firms that advertise on TV. They have a bigger budget.

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

Unless the FDA gets some traction on the supplement, I doubt he will get any. It took several years to get an Ephedra ban in place.

 

[mtmon]

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So many questions, so few answers...I even was recently suggested to appropriate a prostitute in order to help me.
Whoa! So a few new ones. What ever became of the "health food supplements" such as GHB, BATH SALTS, L-Tryptophan, etc. that have been pulled off the shelves due to their relation to death/cancer/coma/insanity/etc.? Wouldn't this case be comparable? Cheers!

 

[mtmon]

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You need to find a products liability attorney. Your run of the mill family, personal injury or bankruptcy doesn't have the reserves to fund a products liability case.

The first thing you need is a doctor to determine that the cause of your seizure was the supplements. You don't a lawsuit based on an unlikely series of events. You need to PROVE causation.

Call one of the big firms that advertise on TV. They have a bigger budget.

Thanks a lot for the ideas! Who advertises on TV? Should I contact the manufacturer or retailer? BTW, I did post on the "ripoffreport.com>"

 

[ecmst12]

I would take that post down until after you speak with an attorney as it may hurt your case. And how would we know who advertises on TV in your town? Don't contact the manufacturer OR the retailer - don't contact anyone but a lawyer.

 

[mtmon]

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Non researched where? The US maybe. Supposedly, it was a standard item for inventory on Russian space ships in the 60's.

I wonder if the manufacturing standards are the same?

 

[mtmon]

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how many milligrams/grams did you take? ("a couple tsps" doesn't tell anyone diddly!)

Well, its like the case with baking...close. mgs. would be impossible w/out a calibrated scale. No typical consumer would be expected to own one.
Cheers!

 

[mtmon]

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I would take that post down until after you speak with an attorney as it may hurt your case. And how would we know who advertises on TV in your town? Don't contact the manufacturer OR the retailer - don't contact anyone but a lawyer.

"Money is the best protector of principle."
Mark Twain

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

I wonder if the manufacturing standards are the same?

This is where it gets interesting. Since there are no Federal regulations on the supplement itself, there are no regulations governing consistency directly. Even when a given brand name claims to be manufacture to pharmaceutical grade standards, only the Federal Trade Commission can really jump in, test the product and bring suit for false label claims. It might be worth the money for you to pay for a lab analysis of those pills, to see just what you might have ingested.

 

[TheGeekess]

This is where it gets interesting. Since there are no Federal regulations on the supplement itself, there are no regulations governing consistency directly. Even when a given brand name claims to be manufacture to pharmaceutical grade standards, only the Federal Trade Commission can really jump in, test the product and bring suit for false label claims. It might be worth the money for you to pay for a lab analysis of those pills, to see just what you might have ingested.

The FTC has nothing to do with pharmaceutical production. And the FDA isn't going to test diddly.

 

[OHRoadwarrior]

The FTC has nothing to do with pharmaceutical production. And the FDA isn't going to test diddly.

Have you ever heard of a mislabeled product, because the contents were not properly labeled? It can result in massive fines, total product recalls or the product being pulled until little sticker labels with the correct info being put on the bottles. I'm sure you have seen the sticker label correction at one time or another.