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Taxing Matters

Overtaxed Member
No he wrote, "...terminated for working overtime while sitting in my county vehicle...". That is very different than than "...The allegations were of falsifying time and attendance...".

And yet I correctly interpreted what he said in that earlier post to mean just that: he abused or falsified overtime. :D It’s true he did not make as obvious as he did earlier. But at the same time, people could have asked him what he meant by that if they weren’t sure.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
"working overtime while sitting in my county vehicle" means (to me) that the OP failed to do his job, as opposed to "falsifying time and attendance" which means (to me) that the OP recorded times for which he wasn't present on the job. One is a failure to perform job duties, while the other is falsifying records.
 

commentator

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In most positions in either state or city government, where wages are carefully calculated based on the amount of money granted to the department, working unauthorized overtime is also considered "theft of time" and is a wage and hour violation. In other words, if you worked it, even by sleeping in your truck while signed in on the job, or working through a lunch break, they have to pay you for it, in accordance with wage and hour laws and that could very seriously upset their budget for payroll. But I got the idea this OP was sleeping/sitting/listening to the radio in his truck while he was working, still on the payroll, still clocked in, supposed to be on the job or something like that, way back in the early posts. It is pretty obvious why, after roaming through four plus pages, he isn't coming across well in new job interviews and why his reputation may have preceded him around the work world. And that's not 100% the fault of his former employer.
 

kolabok

Member
"working overtime while sitting in my county vehicle" means (to me) that the OP failed to do his job, as opposed to "falsifying time and attendance" which means (to me) that the OP recorded times for which he wasn't present on the job. One is a failure to perform job duties, while the other is falsifying records.

the county vehicle we were told ,is, that is your office, if that helps clarify
 

kolabok

Member
In most positions in either state or city government, where wages are carefully calculated based on the amount of money granted to the department, working unauthorized overtime is also considered "theft of time" and is a wage and hour violation. In other words, if you worked it, even by sleeping in your truck while signed in on the job, or working through a lunch break, they have to pay you for it, in accordance with wage and hour laws and that could very seriously upset their budget for payroll. But I got the idea this OP was sleeping/sitting/listening to the radio in his truck while he was working, still on the payroll, still clocked in, supposed to be on the job or something like that, way back in the early posts. It is pretty obvious why, after roaming through four plus pages, he isn't coming across well in new job interviews and why his reputation may have preceded him around the work world. And that's not 100% the fault of his former employer.

forgetting that the drive cam a safety device was used as the time clock, the laws of motion, in this case gps. but it fails to prove if as they believed, I was charging time while on the way out. not true, in a stationary vehicle, my office, doing the administrative stuff that requires one to be sitting still and not driving down the road
 

eerelations

Senior Member
forgetting that the drive cam a safety device was used as the time clock, the laws of motion, in this case gps. but it fails to prove if as they believed, I was charging time while on the way out. not true, in a stationary vehicle, my office, doing the administrative stuff that requires one to be sitting still and not driving down the road

Doesn't matter, your termination was still legal, there was no age discrimination, and prospective employers are legally free to refuse to hire you. All of which you've been told numerous times. Why are you still here?
 

cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
I'm going to hate myself for asking this, and I'm sure the rest of the board will hate me too, but PRECISELY what law, by statute number or name of case law, are you claiming was violated?
 

Shadowbunny

Queen of the Not-Rights
I'm going to hate myself for asking this, and I'm sure the rest of the board will hate me too, but PRECISELY what law, by statute number or name of case law, are you claiming was violated?

Naaahhhh... there's no hating on you. Sometimes you just have to follow the rabbit all the way down the hole. :D
 

kolabok

Member
Doesn't matter, your termination was still legal, there was no age discrimination, and prospective employers are legally free to refuse to hire you. All of which you've been told numerous times. Why are you still here?

moving on bro. What will happen, they will never fill those types of jobs that has a camera staring at you all day, who wants that?
It is one thing to GPS a vehicle and another to feed bulls--t to the staff, that the device is for your safety and to prevent the county from fraudulent vehicles. Not a side show for some college grad on an island somewhere watching employees as live action, new hires can expect 0 expectation of privacy. As some of the ardent voices have echoed, it's all legal, they can do what they want to do.
 
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