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jarbo

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What is the name of your state (only U.S. law)? WA

I posted this on another part of the forum but this may be the more appropriate thread...

The following is a real incident given to me for my legal class on the 4th.

This was a real life incident that happened at a private corporation when an employee happens to forget they had a firearm in their bag when it went through x-ray. The employee was recreationally shooting the day before and had left the gun in the bag.

(The employee is legally able to own and carry a gun in the state)

I know administrative searches can apply to airports, federal buildings, etc...
What I have found out was private property and gov buildings have to post signage (no weapons, guns, knives, etc...) on their property before entry
It was known per company policy that no weapons are allowed but its not posted. You can however have a firearm in your vehicle. That being said, when the employee walked into the building, the weapon was seen in the bag via x-ray. The person running the x-ray stopped the x-ray and directed
employee to put hands in the air. Employee not realizing what was happening freaked out and questioned other employee running machine. The employee was several feet away from the bag and made no advancement or intentions of being threatening. Other employees (Officers that work in building arrived) and stood by employee until management could arrive.

In short, the employee was directed to be handcuffed, which did not happen and his bag seized. The employee had also made it known they requested to leave the property, (in the beginning of the incident) for the day because of the traumatic incident they went through. The bag was taken to undisclosed location and searched.

What I am trying to determine is was the employee basically in custody and was the bag illegally seized and searched.
Keep in mind the employees working the xray and that had arrived to assist are private police employed by the business.

The employee is now seeking legal action against the business....
 


cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
I'm not going to do your homework for you no matter where you post it.

Your professor wants YOUR thoughts on the situation, not someone else's. If we spoon feed you the answers, what have you learned?
 

jarbo

Junior Member
I'm not going to do your homework for you no matter where you post it.

Your professor wants YOUR thoughts on the situation, not someone else's. If we spoon feed you the answers, what have you learned?

I am in no way asking for others to do my work. My thoughts on this matter are already in writing. I simply was trying to post on the correct threat as to be respectful of the rules...
Part of my assignment is to seek legal advice in the form of myself as a client and on the basis of what an attorney’s perspective is.... With all due respect your words are kind of harsh for someone who is just asking a question. I was just assuming this forum may give me some investigative answers on this case...
If you don’t want to give your opinion than just don’t. Thank you.
 

cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
Then you should be asking an attorney and not a consumer message board.
 

cyjeff

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It seems these free advice givers have been in the trenches too long and have forgotten how to be even the least bit civil. :P

Says the guy that impregnated a junkie, contacted her drug dealer to find out how she was doing, is wondering why a recording of that drug dealer's phone call isn't admissible in court and is now wondering why he can't just demand medical tests to be done on a woman he has no legal connection to and a child he has yet to establish paternity on... since said child is unborn.

Yup... WE have the problem because we didn't tell you the answer you wanted to hear. If you are going to pirate threads, you could at least wear a colorful hat.
 
Says the guy that impregnated a junkie, contacted her drug dealer to find out how she was doing, is wondering why a recording of that drug dealer's phone call isn't admissible in court and is now wondering why he can't just demand medical tests to be done on a woman he has no legal connection to and a child he has yet to establish paternity on... since said child is unborn.

Yup... WE have the problem because we didn't tell you the answer you wanted to hear. If you are going to pirate threads, you could at least wear a colorful hat.

Whoa whoa whoa. Whats with these baseless accusations? I wonder if its actionable. Perhaps I should seek advice.
 

cyjeff

Senior Member
Whoa whoa whoa. Whats with these baseless accusations? I wonder if its actionable. Perhaps I should seek advice.

exactly what did I say that I cannot back up with your own words?

So... WOULD you currently pass a drug test? You see, when you take mom to court and demand SHE get tested, guess who ELSE gets a little hair snipped?

How you feel about that?
 
exactly what did I say that I cannot back up with your own words?

So... WOULD you currently pass a drug test? You see, when you take mom to court and demand SHE get tested, guess who ELSE gets a little hair snipped?

How you feel about that?

Could you? I am drug free. Not sure why your dragging my personal matters into someone elses thread. If you would like to continue making baseless accusations towards me perhaps you should have my old thread reopened or post a new one. Just a suggestion.
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
Could you? I am drug free. Not sure why your dragging my personal matters into someone elses thread. If you would like to continue making baseless accusations towards me perhaps you should have my old thread reopened or post a new one. Just a suggestion.


I see no baseless accusations.

(Coming from anyone else, at least).

Not one.
 
I see no baseless accusations.

(Coming from anyone else, at least).

Not one.

Are you guys hijacking this poor guys thread with your conjectures about a locked thread. Im not sure that is within the site guidelines. Perhaps one of you that speak legalize can inform me if these behaviors are proper.
 

cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
And who was the first one who made comments in this thread about other posters?

I refused to help this poster because I don't believe our purpose is to walk him through research he should be doing himself, but at least I told him why. You just started in with more or less personal attacks again. So who did the hijacking?
 
I made assertions about the type of legal advice he might expect to receive while posting on this website. I dont recall specifying any posters.
 

jarbo

Junior Member
Whoooooo is right.... I ask a question, no I wasn’t asking if you could do my homework, in fact my homework for this very assignment was finished and turned in long before you replied to this...
I was just seeking thoughts only... I will tell you though; I do not want your thoughts anymore. So I guess if you don’t like it than don’t read it!!

I guess I will also add you could have asked me if this was homework or I was using your answers. Being nice and polite gets people a lot further in this world than those who act like jerks!

Thanks to those who stand up for us to people who thread bash...
 
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