Am I in trouble?

[Fry016]

I personally wouldn't plead guilty, but even if you were to, it would most likely be a "slap on the wrist". I highly doubt they're going to waste time on a trial for something like this - I am 99% positive they'll offer some sort of plea bargain before the trial date, probably some sort of "conditional dismissal" (I don't know NJ's term for it, NY calls it "adjourned in contemplation of dismissal or 'ACD') whereby if you stay out of trouble for X time (usually 12 months), this charge gets dismissed.

Of course, if you get charged in those 12 months, it comes back to life, but my crystal ball tells me you have very little chance of that happening to you, so you shouldn't worry.

If you/your folks speak to the ADA (prosecutor) anytime soon, it would be a good time to bring this up to them rather than wait and let this drag out. They may want additional conditions (i.e. no alcohol or drugs) but I'm pretty sure they'll go for it.

Thanks a lot man. If I get out of this mess, 100 invisodollars for you.

And stop worrying! (You'll have plenty of opportunity to worry when you turn 17 and you find out about that really painful thing that will to happen to your testicles that all 17 year olds get.)

Go on.

 

[You Are Guilty]

Go on.

What, no one warned you yet?!

 

[Fry016]

What, no one warned you yet?!

I thought I already had that painful thing. My family doesn't like talking about my genitals.

 

[Fry016]

There's something else I want to ask. See, these cops were trying to scare us by saying they would send us to the shelter and we would most likely get raped or get our asses kicked. They said all this crap whenever I gave them a number to my house/my sister's cell/etc. We just moved a few days ago, and just had our phone line changed, so I didn't know my phone number, so I told them to call my old house and it would forward the call to my new house. They said they tried but it didn't work. So I gave my sister's cell number, and before giving it, I said "My sisters were supposed to change their phone numbers today, but I'm guessing it will forward the call." So they go and call, come back and tell me it doesn't work. They said the same thing about my other sister's cell phone. Everytime they came back to tell me the number didn't work, they would threaten me with that shelter stuff. When I finally got home, I asked my sister if her number changed, she said no. I asked my other sister, she said no too. Then I asked her if our old phone number would forward the call, she said yes. But for some reason, these cops wouldn't call. My sisters' cell phones were both on for the whole day, and nobody called. When I told my big sister all this stuff, she got mad and now she's going to ask the lawyer if we could sue the police. I personally don't care, I just want to get out of the mess. Is my sister right? Can we really sue the police for threats like that? She said "Threatening a 16 year old about sending him to the shelter and telling him he will get his ass kicked or he'll be sexually assaulted would have a psychological effect."

 

[rmet4nzkx]

You weren't giving them your contact information so they couldn't contact your parents, you wanted your sisters to get the call instead.

Moving, right, if you were moving maybe you should have been home helping.

It happens all the time.
Good Cop, Bad Cop.

What did they tell you about the shelter? The same thinge people here warn those going to jail. If you went there and something happened you would be here complaining what happened when you were sent to the shelter, when you didn't give them your phone number.

The hole is getting deeper.

I'm waiting for the next installment

 

[Fry016]

You weren't giving them your contact information so they couldn't contact your parents, you wanted your sisters to get the call instead.

Moving, right, if you were moving maybe you should have been home helping.

It happens all the time.
Good Cop, Bad Cop.

What did they tell you about the shelter? The same thinge people here warn those going to jail. If you went there and something happened you would be here complaining what happened when you were sent to the shelter, when you didn't give them your phone number.

The hole is getting deeper.

I'm waiting for the next installment

Wow, just wow. I gave them all the information I could. I gave them all the numbers they asked me for. For your information, my mother and father can't speak English, and when I told them that, they said they needed a number where they can talk to someone they could understand. First of all, my mother was home, and she doesn't have a cell phone. And my father was at work, all the way in NY. I gave them my old phone number, so the call could forward itself to my new phone number. I could tell they didn't even try. I gave them my sisters' phone numbers, and told them they might have changed, but they didn't even bother calling them. Turns out my sisters DIDN'T change their phone numbers.


"What did they tell you about the shelter? The same thinge people here warn those going to jail. If you went there and something happened you would be here complaining what happened when you were sent to the shelter, when you didn't give them your phone number."

I hope you're not serious. I said I GAVE THEM MY PHONE NUMBER, BUT THEY WOULDN'T CALL! Do you want me to spell it out for you? Did you even read my entire post, or did you skim through it?

"Moving, right, if you were moving maybe you should have been home helping."

Umm, I said we moved A FEW DAYS AGO. Which means WE ARE DONE MOVING. Get it through your thick head.

"You weren't giving them your contact information so they couldn't contact your parents, you wanted your sisters to get the call instead."

Again, I gave them my contact info. I gave them my old phone number, which forwards the calls to my new phone number, and I gave them my sisters' phone numbers, whom are both at home. My sisters aren't 2 18 year olds. One of them is 24, the other one is 30. They refused to call the numbers I gave them. What else was I supposed to give? If you aren't going to help, please stay out of the thread.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

Your story changes each time, maybe you will have it straight by the time you stand in front of the judge. Also learn your new phone number, if you are an honor student you should have been able to do that or write it on the palm of your hand.

Well I said I was waiting for the next installment and I got it, lol. I'm sure there will be more.

Who do you think you are fooling, do you think we are all that gulible?

You want advice, tell the truth and don't aid and abet your friends.

 

[cbg]

You would do well to remember that when you are asking people to help you FOR FREE, they're more likely to do so when you are polite to them.

remt4nzkx was trying to help you. There's no excuse for your rudeness to her.

I can't speak for anyone else, but if that's going to be your attitude, you won't be getting any help from me.

Grow up.

 

[Happy Trails]

My son, nephew and a friend were all hauled into our local police station and questioned extensively before they were allowed to call home.

The police officer even hauled in a person that was not even with our boys (he was fishing off a dock) and ran a check on him and held him too. For no reason, other than we believed it to be a race issue.

In this situation, they did nothing wrong and were cleared.

But the police can be very intimidating. I believe they enjoyed watching the boys squirm and wanted to scare the law into them.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

You would do well to remember that when you are asking people to help you FOR FREE, they're more likely to do so when you are polite to them.

remt4nzkx was trying to help you. There's no excuse for your rudeness to her.

I can't speak for anyone else, but if that's going to be your attitude, you won't be getting any help from me.

Grow up.

Thanks CBG!
I have successfully raised two wonderful and responsible young men and a few of their friends and I have seen it all, including what happened to some of their friends from school. If he was truly innocent his story wouldn't constantly change, he got caught and hopefully will learn a lesson.

 

[cbg]

I just calls them as I sees them, Ms. Cupcake!

Seriously, my stepkids are a little older than this young man, and I can't take credit for raising them (wish I could, they're great kids!). But I've seen enough to agree that the constantly shifting story is suspicious. In any case, even if he's as innocent as the morn, that's no excuse for cussing you out. YOU didn't do anything to him!

BTW, hope you don't mind my nickname (born out of our earlier discussion); it's meant affectionately and reflects how difficult I find your screen name to spell!

 

[CdwJava]

On the subject of squirming, I caught two of my sons running around on top of the local elementary school last week ... literally on the roof tops. They were there with 7 of their friends. Needless to say MY kids got tossed in the police car (and hauled home in tears) and the others got the 'back to Jesus' talk (in my best fatherly cop voice). I told them that the ONLY reason they were not going to Juvenile Hall was because they were truthful to me. I also told them they all needed to talk to their parents before I did!

It also helped that I know all of them as they are friends with my boys.

Well, about half an hour after I got them home the kids had come by my house and asked if my sons were "still alive." Of course they were ... but I am sure that my boys were having doubts as to whether they would be in the morning.

By the next day, these kids were all grounded because they all went home and told their folks what they had done. Two sets of the kids told their parents they were not going BACK to the school until school started because they did not want to go to jail.

Sometimes a little fear can go a long way to setting kids on the straight and narrow. And in the case of my boys, I operate by two rules:

(1) The punishment shall not "fit' the crime, it shall greatly exceed the crime. And,

(2) I want them to be far more afraid of what I will do to them then what their friends might say if they "chicken" out, or don't go along with the crowd.

And they are still making amends for there trespasses from last week.

It worked for me - the way my father treated my sister andI; and I see no reason to change a good, working formula.

Carl

 

[Happy Trails]

I agree CdwJava, my dad was very strict also. He said, "If a teacher in school ever hits you and you come home and tell me. I will go to the teacher and find out what is going on." Then if we were in the wrong he'd smack us too. He went to a Catholic school....

But in a case where the 3 boys that hadn't done anything wrong. I did feel this young policeman had over used his authority. They were accused of vandelizing a portable dock at the beach. A neighbor called the police and said she had heard they wanted to make a raft out of it. This dock had (4) 3x3ft sections on it. One section had floated away the previous day, due to a storm we had that raised the water level. The police officer thought they had done something with it. But it wasn't there when the boys got there.

The funny thing is my nephew is 6'4" and 265#, a 3x3ft raft, yeah right.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

I just calls them as I sees them, Ms. Cupcake!

Same here, I spent enough hours in the jails and prisons listening to the tales of innocence doing forensic evals to Call them as I see them and if he is innocent then at least he should have his story down pat by the time he see's the judge!

[/QUOTE] Seriously, my stepkids are a little older than this young man, and I can't take credit for raising them (wish I could, they're great kids!). But I've seen enough to agree that the constantly shifting story is suspicious. In any case, even if he's as innocent as the morn, that's no excuse for cussing you out. YOU didn't do anything to him! [/QUOTE] Attitude is a sign, also notice the ones who at first bought his story have failed to support him as the story shifts, like the shifting sands in the hourglass......

[/QUOTE] BTW, hope you don't mind my nickname (born out of our earlier discussion); it's meant affectionately and reflects how difficult I find your screen name to spell![/QUOTE] It's ok, rmet is me and the 4nzkx = forensics my work. Ms. Cupcake

 

[cbg]

Okay, that helps, but as long as you don't mind I'll probably stick to Ms. Cupcake!