Assault! Major assault!

[Ohiogal]

The prosecutor (boss of Ahmed) is saying her employee is being mistreated because he WAS assaulted and Ms. Trivett is to blame:

https://www.ohio.com/akron/writers/bob-dyer/bob-dyer-prosecutors-assault-charge-is-ridiculous

I find that ridiculous. But that is the type of people I am dealing with in one court I practice. And you wonder why I have disdain at times for what my clients are charged with -- if this is what they consider assault, consider how many other cases are OVERCHARGED.

 

[justalayman]

Whether you call it assault or not he lied on the police report. Arguing she shoulder down hit him and nearly knocked him off his feet is way beyond what can be written off as a matter of individual perception.

 

[Ohiogal]

Whether you call it assault or not he lied on the police report. Arguing she shoulder down hit him and nearly knocked him off his feet is way beyond what can be written off as a matter of individual perception.

Not according to his boss. She says Ms. Trivett is trying to make herself the victim in this and that isn't right. Did you read the link I posted?

 

[justalayman]

Not according to his boss. She says Ms. Trivett is trying to make herself the victim in this and that isn't right. Did you read the link I posted?

Haven’t yet.

I won’t disagree the woman’s act was intentional. It very well may have been but the wimpy boy lied to attempt to punish her. Criminal aspects aside, his actions were unethical. Given his position his ethics are critical to the state being able to sustain convictions.

 

[LdiJ]

Haven’t yet.

I won’t disagree the woman’s act was intentional. It very well may have been but the wimpy boy lied to attempt to punish her. Criminal aspects aside, his actions were unethical. Given his position his ethics are critical to the state being able to sustain convictions.

I don't think that anyone can say for sure whether it was intentional or accidental. I certainly cannot. What I can say with accuracy is that she is not "much bigger" than he is and that she certainly did not almost knock him down. It didn't even look like he stumbled.

 

[quincy]

The prosecutor (boss of Ahmed) is saying her employee is being mistreated because he WAS assaulted and Ms. Trivett is to blame:

https://www.ohio.com/akron/writers/bob-dyer/bob-dyer-prosecutors-assault-charge-is-ridiculous

I find that ridiculous. But that is the type of people I am dealing with in one court I practice. And you wonder why I have disdain at times for what my clients are charged with -- if this is what they consider assault, consider how many other cases are OVERCHARGED.

There was an interesting opinion piece recently in the Washington Post written by Radley Blake (doesn't "Radley Blake" sound like a name out of a novel? ) titled, "Are prosecutors obligated to believe the evidence they present at trial?"

Blake noted that most states do not require their prosecutors to believe that what they present in trial is truthful. Even when presenting false evidence that leads to a conviction, the ones convicted have no recourse against the prosecutor (who is protected by an absolute immunity).

Perhaps Ahmed believes he can lie with impunity? I think he forgets that he was not acting as prosecutor when he leveled the (false) claims against Trivett.

I personally find his accusations defenseless.

 

[not2cleverRed]

Haven’t yet.

I won’t disagree the woman’s act was intentional. It very well may have been but the wimpy boy lied to attempt to punish her. Criminal aspects aside, his actions were unethical. Given his position his ethics are critical to the state being able to sustain convictions.

I have.

I am not a mind reader, so I don't know if the "assault" was intentional. It just looked like she was trying to get by.

The problem OG is alluding to is his boss's position of, "If I find you likable to socialize with as a colleague, then it is impossible that you did something wrong." She is weighing his version over what was actually recorded by video. She is not interested in facts.

I had to watch the video more than once to figure out what was the alleged "assault". I deliberately watched before reading, then *had* to read to figure out where to look to see this alleged "assault". I wouldn't even call the woman rude. (On Long Island, the prosecuter would be considered rude for not apologizing for taking up so much space.)

 

[justalayman]

Didn’t mean to argue it was or wasn’t intentional. I was referring to the statements made by the dep da. My point was simply meant to say irrespective of it being intentional or not...


To me his actions, even if it was intentional, were vindictive and overly aggressive for the actual incident and unbecoming of an officer of the court.

If giving her the benefit of the doubt his reactions were appalling.

 

[Eekamouse]

Either this guy is the biggest sissy la la ever to walk the face of this planet or he has a vendetta against this woman. Calling the slight bump into him an assault is laughable. He must really freak when he is walking through a crowd. If he walked down a street in NYC, he'd probably die from "being assaulted" by people walking near him. To be super safe in the future, perhaps he ought to wear suits made out of bubble wrap.

 

[Ohiogal]

Either this guy is the biggest sissy la la ever to walk the face of this planet or he has a vendetta against this woman. Calling the slight bump into him an assault is laughable. He must really freak when he is walking through a crowd. If he walked down a street in NYC, he'd probably die from "being assaulted" by people walking near him. To be super safe in the future, perhaps he ought to wear suits made out of bubble wrap.

That would be funny... suits made of bubble wrap...

I will say this, the ELECTED prosecutor is the one defending him. Her constituents are NOT happy that she says this video constitutes an assault. If that is what SHE calls an assault, you wonder why attorneys here feel people are overcharged?

 

[Ohiogal]

Didn’t mean to argue it was or wasn’t intentional. I was referring to the statements made by the dep da. My point was simply meant to say irrespective of it being intentional or not...


To me his actions, even if it was intentional, were vindictive and overly aggressive for the actual incident and unbecoming of an officer of the court.

If giving her the benefit of the doubt his reactions were appalling.

I agree. We are under the belief she may have counsel now to guide her through this and pursue protection. This was a pathetic abuse of his position.

 

[Eekamouse]

I agree. We are under the belief she may have counsel now to guide her through this and pursue protection. This was a pathetic abuse of his position.

How much you want to bet this is not the first time this special little flower used his position to act unethically? Why wouldn't he? He's got his boss backing him up no matter how ridiculous his claim is? How completely disgusting.

 

[quincy]

That would be funny... suits made of bubble wrap...

I will say this, the ELECTED prosecutor is the one defending him. Her constituents are NOT happy that she says this video constitutes an assault. If that is what SHE calls an assault, you wonder why attorneys here feel people are overcharged?

I am losing faith in the ability of many Americans to use their right to vote intelligently.

I fear that publicity surrounding the incident will cement the name of the elected prosecutor in the minds of the electorate but, come election time, only the name will be remembered and not the reason behind its familiarity. With nothing else to go on, people have been shown to vote for the familiar name.

Who said, "I don't care what you say about me as long as you spell my name correctly?" Even negative publicity can be good publicity for those running for a political office.

 

[Shadowbunny]

I'm afraid you're right, Quincy. All we can hope is that voters are reminded of WHY they know this idiot's name when it's time to vote. And I hope they remember his boss' name as well; after reading the article I've come to the conclusion that she's just as much of an idiot.

 

[Ohiogal]

How much you want to bet this is not the first time this special little flower used his position to act unethically? Why wouldn't he? He's got his boss backing him up no matter how ridiculous his claim is? How completely disgusting.

I have had some male prosecutors treat me like crap IN COURT as a female defense attorney. I was told to report them to their boss. HER. Guess what? I won't get anywhere. They will continue getting away with their disrespectful BS unless reigned in by others (luckily so far the magistrates have reigned the male morons in but ....). I was told to complain by those in the bar. Complaining, considering this BS, will get me NO WHERE.