Zigner
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I agree. You've proven all you need to...
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I agree. You've proven all you need to...
confused14law
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Can you honestly say after everything I said, and everything I have posted and quoted that you still believe they are in compliance with the law as it is written. Mistake or not. Last time I checked, ignorance was no excuse for the law, would you agree?
confused14law
Member
Have you been eating many cars?
Just to be clear - from the same federal law you posted comes the following:
The Commission shall have no authority under this section or section 57a of this title to declare unlawful an act or practice on the grounds that such act or practice is unfair unless the act or practice causes or is likely to cause substantial injury to consumers which is not reasonably avoidable by consumers themselves and not outweighed by countervailing benefits to consumers or to competition.
Are you claiming that a consumer would not reasonably be able to avoid damages from not being able to buy the car that is advertised, really?
16 CFR PART 238
Is that better *******?
Zigner
Senior Member, Non-Attorney
Ok, now tell me what a person's damages are...
Let's say they can't sell your car, but they sell a comparable vehicle at a comparable price. Maybe even a better vehicle at the same price. What are the damages.
Seriously, you are being a busy body. You have a vendetta against the dealer.
Tell you what - call the cops and the local municipality. They'll tell you who you can call. However, you got nothing.
Let's say they can't sell your car, but they sell a comparable vehicle at a comparable price. Maybe even a better vehicle at the same price. What are the damages.
Seriously, you are being a busy body. You have a vendetta against the dealer.
Tell you what - call the cops and the local municipality. They'll tell you who you can call. However, you got nothing.
Zigner
Senior Member, Non-Attorney
Actually, ignorance doesn't come in to play. The word you're looking for is intent.
confused14law
Member
No, the word I was looking for is ignorance. Thanks though.
Zigner
Senior Member, Non-Attorney
Again, ignorance of the law doesn't come in to play. INTENT is what is required.
confused14law
Member
It doesnt matter if they have a comparable car or comparable price. It does not even matter whether or not there are any damages at the moment. Lets not get away from my original reason for my post. I never said anything that I was looking to sue them, or there were any damages. They are breaking the law, I wanted report them to the correct place. I found that place, the BBB and FTC. You are making assumptions that they might have this and might have that.
Lets start simple. Would you agree that if there was no comparable item, and the only reason they were advertising that car was to get people to their dealership that they would be breaking the law as it is written?
Zigner
Senior Member, Non-Attorney
How would you prove their intent?
This is circular. Call the big bad BBB and FTC and let them handle it.
>Charlotte<
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Oh for Pete's sake.
Write a letter to the Florida Attorney General, copy it to the dealership's general manager and Honda's corporate office, wait for a response that says "Thank you for your concern" (translation: "So?") and then go outside and get some fresh air. Or a hobby. Or a pet. Or something.
Write a letter to the Florida Attorney General, copy it to the dealership's general manager and Honda's corporate office, wait for a response that says "Thank you for your concern" (translation: "So?") and then go outside and get some fresh air. Or a hobby. Or a pet. Or something.
confused14law
Member
Found what I was looking for. Everyone can chill out now. I am not sure if you guys are just used to everyone coming on here and suing others, I just wanted to report a dealership for fraud, false advertising, scamming customers, and taking advantage of people. If you do not share the same beliefs, that is fine, **** off. I could care less. This is an advice forum, you gave bad advice, next person please.
Also, what I do with my time is none of any ones business, so why you guys are suggesting things is beyond me. I could call and make complaints to whomever I wish. Besides, I think I found my hobby. I will just sit here like all of you and give my two cents on every topic. Sounds like fun to me. It doesn't matter if you are a lawyer or not, and it doesn't matter if you know what you are talking about apparently either. So I found a hobby thanks to all of you. I feel much better.
Andy- My main intent is to either let everyone know to be aware of the shady dealings of this dealership which is clearly impossible, find a way to make them stop ripping people off, which again impossible, or report them to a higher power. If a letter is all they get, that is fine. At least they know they are being watched and people are on to them. I am sure eventually if there are enough complaints, the BBB will step in, Honda will reprimand them and possibly revoke their contract for defamation of their brand, and they will suffer the consequences of bad business.
Also, what I do with my time is none of any ones business, so why you guys are suggesting things is beyond me. I could call and make complaints to whomever I wish. Besides, I think I found my hobby. I will just sit here like all of you and give my two cents on every topic. Sounds like fun to me. It doesn't matter if you are a lawyer or not, and it doesn't matter if you know what you are talking about apparently either. So I found a hobby thanks to all of you. I feel much better.
Andy- My main intent is to either let everyone know to be aware of the shady dealings of this dealership which is clearly impossible, find a way to make them stop ripping people off, which again impossible, or report them to a higher power. If a letter is all they get, that is fine. At least they know they are being watched and people are on to them. I am sure eventually if there are enough complaints, the BBB will step in, Honda will reprimand them and possibly revoke their contract for defamation of their brand, and they will suffer the consequences of bad business.
>Charlotte<
Lurker
Or they'll respond "Thanks for your concern."
But, hey, if you want to tilt at windmills--you go, girl.
But, hey, if you want to tilt at windmills--you go, girl.
confused14law
Member
Its cool, believe what you like, and I will do as I please. Thank God you were not a founding father or this country would cease to exist since everyone else at that time thought the smallest action would have no bearing against England, and look what became of that.
Id rather spend 5 minutes of my time trying to make a difference then sit in the shadows and do nothing. You know, self moral kind of thing.
I am glad what I do in my spare time is such a concern of everyone else. Glad to feel that important.
Id rather spend 5 minutes of my time trying to make a difference then sit in the shadows and do nothing. You know, self moral kind of thing.
I am glad what I do in my spare time is such a concern of everyone else. Glad to feel that important.
tranquility
Senior Member
When you make a claim that a possible technical violation of an obscure law is immoral, you should first research the concepts of "malum in se" and "malum prohibita".
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