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Been sweating it too long and need some help! (filesharing question)

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phiber_optik

Junior Member
You are a god send thank you so much!!! What do you think the chances of them reporting me to the RIAA are? and what type of penalties would that cause? How likely am I to face criminal liability for copyright infringement, as in has it happened in cases similiar to mine? I haven't left out any facts or evidence, thats all that's on my computer. Does it sound like I am leaving anything out? Once again thank you very much I am going to keep reading that over and over. So do you think they will just end up returning my computer with no problems or do you think they are going to try to make a big deal out of it? THANK YOU MY MAN
 


divgradcurl

Senior Member
What do you think the chances of them reporting me to the RIAA are?

Who knows? There's just no way to tell what they will do. If you just have a couple of songs, and are not super active in the file sharing community, I doubt there would be much interest in pursuing anything -- but you just never know.

and what type of penalties would that cause?

Well, potentially you could be facing civil liability ranging from $750 per illegal song or movie up to $30,000 per illegal song or movie. I'm not aware of anyone actually going to trial on any of these RIAA lawsuits; most settle for amounts ranging from a few thousand on up to $20K or so.

How likely am I to face criminal liability for copyright infringement, as in has it happened in cases similiar to mine?

Like I noted earlier, criminal copyright infringement is pretty unusual, and requires more evidence than just a few songs on your computer. Usually criminal liability is limited to pretty serious pirates.

But again, you never know -- if they have some evidence of piracy on your part, I guess they could pursue this -- but again, if all you have is a couple of songs, its probably not likely to be a high priority. But, then again, you never know.

So do you think they will just end up returning my computer with no problems or do you think they are going to try to make a big deal out of it?

That will depend on what the local authorities want to do, no way to tell from here.

Bottom line is this: the chances of facing criminal sanctions for this are probably slim, so your probation shouldn't be affected (unless there are some terms of your probation that specifically cover this) -- but, then again, if the cops are realy out to get you, you never know.

As far as civil liability, well, that shouldn't impact your probation. Either way, at this point, you'll just have to sit and wait and see what happens. That's all you can do for now. If the cops come back with charges or something else, post back and maybe we can help -- but until something happens, all you can do is wait and see what they'll do.

And stay off the file sharing networks -- that's the best way to avoid any liability...
 
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seniorjudge

Guest
Bottom line is this: the chances of facing criminal sanctions for this are probably slim, so your probation shouldn't be affected (unless there are some terms of your probation that specifically cover this) -- but, then again, if the cops are realy out to get you, you never know.

OP, what did your probation officer say when you reported this law enforcement contact?
 

phiber_optik

Junior Member
seniorjudge said:
Bottom line is this: the chances of facing criminal sanctions for this are probably slim, so your probation shouldn't be affected (unless there are some terms of your probation that specifically cover this) -- but, then again, if the cops are realy out to get you, you never know.

OP, what did your probation officer say when you reported this law enforcement contact?

Hey Judge what do you mean by "reported this law enforcement contact" I am a bit confused but I want to give you a good answer, sorry for you getting frustrated with me man I'm trying.
 
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seniorjudge

Guest
phiber_optik said:
Hey Judge what do you mean by "reported this law enforcement contact" I am a bit confused but I want to give you a good answer, sorry for you getting frustrated with me man I'm trying.

Who are they? Cops? If so, did you report this law enforcement contact?


Hi I'm from South Dakota and about 1 year ago my computer was seized and searched because I made a counterfit $10 bill. Well I was givin a year of probation plus fines and community service since I was 17. Well about a month before I was supposed to get off they came and took my computer again to make sure I didn't have anything else bad on there I guess. I am 18 at this point. Well there is nothing on there related to counterfeiting but I have been using a filesharing program called shareaza and I got about 3 full length movies, a full game, and about a dozen songs on my HD. What is the outcome of this going to be I worry about it every day and can't take it anymore please someone help me out.
 

phiber_optik

Junior Member
seniorjudge said:
Who are they? Cops? If so, did you report this law enforcement contact?


Hi I'm from South Dakota and about 1 year ago my computer was seized and searched because I made a counterfit $10 bill. Well I was givin a year of probation plus fines and community service since I was 17. Well about a month before I was supposed to get off they came and took my computer again to make sure I didn't have anything else bad on there I guess. I am 18 at this point. Well there is nothing on there related to counterfeiting but I have been using a filesharing program called shareaza and I got about 3 full length movies, a full game, and about a dozen songs on my HD. What is the outcome of this going to be I worry about it every day and can't take it anymore please someone help me out.


My probation officer made me drive him to my house in my car and a D.C.I. agent followed us to my house and picked up my laptop and they took off together in the D.C.I. agents car.
 
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seniorjudge

Guest
My probation officer made me drive him to my house in my car and a D.C.I. agent followed us to my house and picked up my laptop and they took off together in the D.C.I. agents car.

Okay, so the PO was in on the bust. Never mind. I thought it was a separate cop who was not connected with the PO.
 

phiber_optik

Junior Member
Hey I just got off the phone with my probation officer and he is mad at the DCI agents for taking so long and he told them my computer better be returned by the end of this month because he is letting me off probation. The DCI agents said that there was some third-party software installed that is preventing them from accessing the deleted files! Poor guys I guess they can't crack System Mechanic! So it seems like they aren't even worried about what I have on there right now but instead are trying to recover my deleted files which I deleted with a special incinerator program, which contain nothing bad anyway. Hopefully all goes well any more advice would be appreciated.
 

phiber_optik

Junior Member
Well they are returning my computer in 1 or 2 days they said. They did find something "disturbing" according to them. I wonder what that means and if they are going to try to do something about it? It wouldn't seem like it since they are returning my computer, right?
 

Some Random Guy

Senior Member
Ask them what they find disturbing. Or just drop it and wait until your probation runs out. They may just be trying to get you to volunteer info, like "Oh, you mean those pesky mp3's I've been stealing?"
 

phiber_optik

Junior Member
Some Random Guy said:
Ask them what they find disturbing. Or just drop it and wait until your probation runs out. They may just be trying to get you to volunteer info, like "Oh, you mean those pesky mp3's I've been stealing?"
Alright I will try and ask. If I don't get my computer back within two days like they said, and my probation is up on the 29th of this month, can they still give me any trouble after the 29th?
 

Some Random Guy

Senior Member
"and my probation is up on the 29th of this month, can they still give me any trouble after the 29th?"

If the "disturbing" things are illegal then yes. If they merely violate the terms of your probation, then no.
 

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